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Turn off NAT on a NETGEAR MR814 Wireless AP

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Mark Grimes

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Apr 17, 2003, 12:34:17 PM4/17/03
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I have an existing home network to which I would like to add a NETGEAR
MR814 Wireless Access Point.

I have a DSL connection to a SonicWall firewall which provides VPN
access to my office and NAT to the computers on my LAN. The Sonicwall
connects to a small hub, off of which are several wired computers. I
would like to replace the hub with the Wireless AP (it also has
several wired ports). Here's the catch: once inside the Sonicwall I
don't want another layer of NAT. I want all of my computers inside the
firewall to see all of each other's ports. Is there a way to configure
the Wireless AP to function as a simple hub, without NAT?

Thanks,
Mark

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Apr 17, 2003, 1:23:29 PM4/17/03
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Yes. Disable the DHCP on the Wireless router, and connect from your
existing hub to the LAN side of the Wireless router, using a crossover
cable. Leave the WAN side of the Wireless router unused. Replacing the
hub with the Wireless router connected to the Sonicwall might leave you
short a few wired ports, but would work.

I just recently added a Linksys BEFW11S4 Version 3 to an existing wired
SMC router. The SMC has been in place for a while, connected to a DSL
modem. I connect wirelessly, I get a DHCP address from the SMC, and I
can do Nortel Contivity VPN connections just like I did before, when I was
wired to the SMC.


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Kevin Webb

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Apr 17, 2003, 6:46:13 PM4/17/03
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Following dold's instructions will work, but unless you have already bought
the hardware, why not just buy an AP instead of an AP/Router combo unit?

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do...@turnxoffxn.usenet.us.com

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Apr 17, 2003, 8:04:56 PM4/17/03
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Kevin Webb <ktwe...@charter.net> wrote:
> Following dold's instructions will work, but unless you have already bought
> the hardware, why not just buy an AP instead of an AP/Router combo unit?

You missed the word Sonicwall. He's already got a device that provides
VPN, probably linked tightly to another SonicWall, and that is also
providing DHCP addresses. He might need to keep the addresses in the
proper range as assigned from the office.

Kevin Webb

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Apr 17, 2003, 9:47:18 PM4/17/03
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I think you must have missed my post altogether because you clearly didn't
digest it. He want's a wireless hub. Pretty much the definition of an AP,
which is all he needs, not a AP/Router combo.

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do...@turnxoffxn.usenet.us.com

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Apr 17, 2003, 11:12:01 PM4/17/03
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Kevin Webb <ktwe...@charter.net> wrote:
> I think you must have missed my post altogether because you clearly didn't

That seems a rather coy line. Do you live in Coos Bay?

The original poster did mention a WAP, but he also mentioned NAT, so I
wasn't sure that he was talking about a WAP, or a router. I didn't
recognize the model number.

do...@turnxoffxn.usenet.us.com

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Apr 18, 2003, 12:44:05 AM4/18/03
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Kevin Webb <ktwe...@charter.net> wrote:
> I think you must have missed my post altogether because you clearly didn't
> digest it. He want's a wireless hub. Pretty much the definition of an AP,
> which is all he needs, not a AP/Router combo.

I didn't intend to offend you. I may have misread the original posting.
The desire to avoid NAT was all that I was really replying to. In a
SonicWall-SonicWall VPN, the two SonicWalls are configured to talk to
each other, and they provide IP addresses. Since the result could be
a an apparently contiguous LAN segment, NAT won't work.

He did say MR814, without saying why. Given that, I think my answer was
correct. At the local retail outlets, the Wireless Routers are cheaper
than a similar WAP. The MR814 is $75.95, the ME102 is $79.95.

Kevin Webb

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Apr 18, 2003, 7:22:29 AM4/18/03
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Again, attention to detail doesn't seem to be your strong suit. I said your
solution would work. And if the price is an issue then an AP/Router combo
might be a decent choice. IF the price differential is significant, which
is isn't. You can get AP's just as cheap with rebates as AP/Routers.
Personally, I can't see buying an AP that is as limited as those on
AP/Router combos. No bridging or workgroup bridge mode, so you can't use it
for anything other than an AP down the road.
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Mark Grimes

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Apr 21, 2003, 12:34:10 PM4/21/03
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Thanks for all the reply's. dold's suggestion worked perfectly.

As for the choice of the AP/Router combo over a straight AP, the
NETGEAR MR814 was $65 on buy.com with a $20 rebate -- $45! And I
really wasn't looking for anything fancy from my AP.

Thanks again.

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