Bush will gas US/British troops to "prove" Iraq did not disarm
Dlehmicke
Iraq into three states - Iraq, Turkish Kurdistan, and the Iranian Shiite
Republic - the CIA will kill a small number of US or British troops using sarin
and/or VX gas. These murders will be presented to the world as evidence that
Iraq concealed and used chemical weapons.
it's me
And the Jews flew the planes into the Towers
AFTER we kick Soddom ASS We'll show the the TONS of Sarin, VX, Bister,
Toxins Etc, Etc.... Unless of course you think the CIA is making all
that to be use in evidence SoDDUMB
Kevin
What ever kind of look you were going for, YOU MISSED
Russ
(Dlehmicke) writes:
Here we go.
You are an idiot.
Russ
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"Dlehmicke" <dleh...@aol.com> wrote in message
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First of all, Please mark off-topic threat with [OT]
Secondly, gas is pretty ineffective against soldiers, as far as I know, since
they
tend to be prepared for it.
Thirdly, "Iranian Shiite Republic"? You are kidding. War with Iran is next
on the agenda IMHO.
Aris Katsaris
Chris Mork
Here is an interesting article that supports your viewpoint
Dlehmicke:
http://www.ciacoverup.com/mideast/iraq_conflict.html
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Michael O'Neill
>
> Dlehmicke wrote:
>
> > During the American operation to plant the US flag on Iraqi soil and partition
> > Iraq into three states - Iraq, Turkish Kurdistan, and the Iranian Shiite
> > Republic - the CIA will kill a small number of US or British troops using sarin
> > and/or VX gas. These murders will be presented to the world as evidence that
> > Iraq concealed and used chemical weapons.
> >
> >
> >
>
> And the Jews flew the planes into the Towers
No it was the C.I.A. acting on Kissingers recommendations... no, wait...
you're right.
M.
Michael O'Neill
>
> In article <20030224190457...@mb-ch.aol.com>, dleh...@aol.com
> (Dlehmicke) writes:
>
> >During the American operation to plant the US flag on Iraqi soil and
> >partition
> >Iraq into three states - Iraq, Turkish Kurdistan, and the Iranian Shiite
> >Republic - the CIA will kill a small number of US or British troops using
> >sarin
> >and/or VX gas. These murders will be presented to the world as evidence that
> >Iraq concealed and used chemical weapons.
>
> Here we go.
>
> You are an idiot.
Here we go.
You've just responded to an idiot, Russ.
What does that make you?
M.
Michael O'Neill
>
> "Dlehmicke" <dleh...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20030224190457...@mb-ch.aol.com...
> > During the American operation to plant the US flag on Iraqi soil and partition
> > Iraq into three states - Iraq, Turkish Kurdistan, and the Iranian Shiite
> > Republic - the CIA will kill a small number of US or British troops using
> sarin
> > and/or VX gas. These murders will be presented to the world as evidence that
> > Iraq concealed and used chemical weapons.
>
> First of all, Please mark off-topic threat with [OT]
>
> Secondly, gas is pretty ineffective against soldiers, as far as I know, since
> they
> tend to be prepared for it.
Right. Lung removal. The ultimate gas preparation.
> Thirdly, "Iranian Shiite Republic"? You are kidding. War with Iran is
> next on the agenda IMHO.
*mheh*
You'd be surprised what American Oil interests will do to make a profit.
There are already motions [tabled by Rumsfeld IIRC] to remove the
unilateral US sanctions against Iran.
It's not such a big step from there to the US doing business with Iran,
which is what the Oil Barons want.
M.
T. T. Arvind
> First of all, Please mark off-topic threat with [OT]
Interesting typo - was it deliberate? ;-)
Cheers,
Meneldil
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Michael O'Neill
>
> Dlehmicke wrote:
>
> > During the American operation to plant the US flag on Iraqi soil and
> > partition
> > Iraq into three states - Iraq, Turkish Kurdistan, and the Iranian
> > Shiite
> > Republic - the CIA will kill a small number of US or British troops
> > using sarin
> > and/or VX gas. These murders will be presented to the world as
> > evidence that
> > Iraq concealed and used chemical weapons.
>
> Here is an interesting article that supports your viewpoint
> Dlehmicke:
>
> http://www.ciacoverup.com/mideast/iraq_conflict.html
Ho, ho, ho!
My cup overfloweth. Thy wit hath wounded me to the quick.
Here.
Read some real reporting about what has already been done in the name of
the American people.
http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-death.htm
I'm not sure I could deal with that kind of thing.
HAND
M.
Morgil
"Michael O'Neill" <o...@indigo.ie> kirjoitti
viestissä:3E5BCB5E...@indigo.ie...
> Read some real reporting about what has already been done in the name of
> the American people.
>
> http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-death.htm
>
> I'm not sure I could deal with that kind of thing.
Yep, and some people find it amusing that some Iraqi troops
were trying to surrender for TV news-teams. Concidering the
alternative it was undoubtedly smartest thing they could do...
Morgil
Aris Katsaris
"T. T. Arvind" <ttar...@vsnl.in> wrote in message
news:MPG.18c56acbb...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> žus cwęš Aris Katsaris:
>
> > First of all, Please mark off-topic threat with [OT]
>
> Interesting typo - was it deliberate? ;-)
Nah, just lack of sleep... When one's posting at 4:30 AM...
Aris Katsaris
Joshua.
wrote:
>Dlehmicke wrote:
>
>> During the American operation to plant the US flag on Iraqi soil and partition
>> Iraq into three states - Iraq, Turkish Kurdistan, and the Iranian Shiite
>> Republic - the CIA will kill a small number of US or British troops using sarin
>> and/or VX gas. These murders will be presented to the world as evidence that
>> Iraq concealed and used chemical weapons.
>
>Here is an interesting article that supports your viewpoint
>Dlehmicke:
>
>http://www.ciacoverup.com/mideast/iraq_conflict.html
isnt there some kind of another newsgroop fro this?
alt.conspiracy.obssessive or something?
- -
Joshua.
official cynical asshole of Simpsonica U of I.
TEUNC abuser, AFT/RABT lurker.
lover of blue.
lover of blue.
repeats things...
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Holy Shiite! You don't say!
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Michael O'Neill
These guys if properly turned by C.I.A. operatives, could have been a
valuable asset in the overthrow of Saddam from *inside* Iraq - without
UN intervention!
Instead the short sighted Elder Lemon Bush couldn't see the golden egg
within arms reach. He toasted the goose instead. Literally.
What an asshole. What a criminal.
M.
Dlehmicke
Sorin
Ooooh - pot; call the kettle black, why don't you!
Fuck-off back to 'alt.fan.dune' and do all your offtopic trolling THERE, you
dreadful, rednecked, ultra-conservative, warmongering barbarian scumbag.
Mika-Petri Lauronen
> Holy Shiite! You don't say!
>
Are you sure it isn't holy sunnite?
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Mika-Petri Lauronen
> AFTER we kick Soddom ASS We'll show the the TONS of Sarin, VX, Bister,
> Toxins Etc, Etc.... Unless of course you think the CIA is making all
> that to be use in evidence SoDDUMB
>
...and still the weapons inspectors have found none - even with the
(deliberately delayed) aid from the USA satellites. All that's missing so
far are 500 mustard gas shells - and taking into account the situation in
Iraq from the last 20 years, they might as well be just that - missing.
Beeblebear
"Mika-Petri Lauronen" <mpla...@paju.oulu.fi> wrote in message
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> it's me wrote:
>
> > AFTER we kick Soddom ASS We'll show the the TONS of Sarin, VX, Bister,
> > Toxins Etc, Etc.... Unless of course you think the CIA is making all
> > that to be use in evidence SoDDUMB
> >
> ...and still the weapons inspectors have found none - even with the
> (deliberately delayed) aid from the USA satellites. All that's missing so
> far are 500 mustard gas shells - and taking into account the situation in
> Iraq from the last 20 years, they might as well be just that - missing.
> --
> --
In fact, a British newspaper the other day reported one of the weapon's
inspectors as describing the "intelligence" they had been given by America
as GARBAGE. He was also reported as saying that the inspectors don't like
being sent on wild goose chases.
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BaronjosefR
(deliberately delayed) aid from the USA satellites. All that's missing so
far are 500 mustard gas shells - and taking into account the situation in
Iraq from the last 20 years, they might as well be just that - missing.<<<<<<<
That is not true. Inspectors were closing in on a nerve gas bomb two days ago,
and instead of letting it be discovered, Iraq just HAPPENED to find it and turn
it over.
coyotes rand mair fheal
baron...@aol.com (BaronjosefR) wrote:
damn that saddam for cooperating with inspectors
Beeblebear
"BaronjosefR" <baron...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Question.
If inspections are resulting in Saddam being disarmed, enthusiastically or
reluctantly,
why is a war required?
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MLANDERSMD
>If inspections are resulting in Saddam being disarmed, enthusiastically or
>reluctantly,
>why is a war required?
>--
Good question, here's another:
If the UN inspectors can't be expected to find everything without an invasion,
how will an invasion change their ability to find everything. For
"disarmament" to occur, inspectors have to find everything, or have it brought
to them. An invasion will not make this easier or quicker. There is plenty
of time for peace. When Saddam or his terrorists mount a WMD attack, that will
be the time for war. Arbitrarily targeted "preemptive strikes" in the absence
of material evidence are a self-serving name for empire building.
Anyway, it's a moot point. Bush's stated objectives keep changing. One day
it's regime change, one day it's disarmement, one day it's liberation of the
Iraqi people, one day it's the security of the American people. Bush's real
objective is to advance his piece in his personal competition with Death.
As a young alcoholic, George W Bush confronted Death during one or more close
calls with suicide. Since that time, and since foreswearing alcohol for the
resurrected Jesus (Death's ultimate enemy in the Christian mythology), Bush has
considered Death to be his personal adversary - to avoid and outwit. As
governor of Texas, Bush played "tag" with Death by executing hundreds of
Texans.
9/11 sent George W. Bush over the edge. Instead of admitting defeat in his
game with Death, taking out the Taliban and al-Qaida, and retiring from the
game, Bush swore an oath to "shock and awe" Death with the magnitude of his
fury and the length and hardness of his deadly campaign. After 9/11, Bush shed
public tears because Death had stolen a march on him. During Bush's visit to
the recovery site in Lower Manhattan, he did not say "... and soon the people
who committed these murders will be hearing from us all...". He said "... and
soon the people who knocked these buildings down will be hearing from us all
..." He was now ready to call for allies in his game with Death, but not
ready to inform them of the rules.
During the 2003 State of the Union address George W. Bush said this, "... we
have captured many al-Qaida operatives. As for many others, well, let's just
say they are no longer a problem". While saying this, his smug attitude and
swaggering posture clearly indicated his confidence had grown enough to speak
directly to his nemesis, Death.
The administration of the dangerously unstable oil despot George W. Bush stated
publicly today that the grand prize in this particular Death match is the head
of the insanely impotent oil despot, Saddam Hussein.
George W. Bush has indicated clearly that none of the following levers will
move him away from his use of the US Armed Forces (and those of Britain and
other puppies/puppets/paid mercenaries) to advance his score in his obsessive
competition with Death:
o public opinion
o huge cash expenditures totalling hundreds of billions of dollars, all of it
deficit spending
o the will of the UN
There is only one way to make the price George W. Bush pays to play with Death
too high. George W. Bush will respond to one thing, and one thing only:
The deaths of American civilians at the hands of George Bush - either as human
shields in Iraq, or as suicide martyrs in America, dying by their own hand as a
public demonstration of opposal to the transformation of America by George Bush
into a fascist empire.
One or two - he will share a laugh in private with Dick Cheney and Condaleeza
Rice. Rush Limbaugh's advertising rates will double.
Ten or twenty - he will respond to questions compassionately. His
spokespersons will question the sanity and motives of the anti-war suicides.
One hundred - the administration will mount an offensive against the anti-war
suicide movement, linking it to terrorist groups and "un-American elements".
Five hundred - Katie Couric will take notice. Liberal media will report it as
a crisis in American leadership. Conservative media will subtly celebrate it as
a cleansing of the American gene pool. George Will will lead this operation.
One thousand - Congress will hold hearings, asking the Administration to
justify it's stubborn ignorance of this pro-American, pro-life cultural
uprising.
Three thousand - at the point where the anti-war suicide count exceeds the 9/11
death count, George W. Bush will concede the game to Death. He will go before
Congress asking for a vote-of-confidence on military action. The resolution
will fail, and the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq will begin.
The after-effects, including shattered families, national shame, the defeat of
George W Bush in 2004, and the smearing of the pro-American peace martyrs names
as "supporters of Saddam" will echo through the American politico-military
scene for 20 years. A new benchmark for the ulitimate patriotic duty in the
name of America and in the name of peace will have been established. Fanatical
religious empire builders wrapping themselves in the American flag will be
banished from the world stage for a long, long time.
BaronjosefR
If inspections are resulting in Saddam being disarmed, enthusiastically or
reluctantly,
why is a war required?<<<<<<
So Sodamn gives up one bomb and conceals and builds hundreds more? That is like
trying to empty a flooded basement with a teaspoon, while the tap water is
running.
BaronjosefR
ago,
> and instead of letting it be discovered, Iraq just HAPPENED to find it
and turn
> it over.
damn that saddam for cooperating with inspectors<<<<<<<<<,
Turning over one shell when thousands are unaccounted for isn't quite what
cooperation means.
coyotes rand mair fheal
baron...@aol.com (BaronjosefR) wrote:
yes of course
if he turns anything over it proves hes hiding weapons
if he doesnet turn anything over it proves hes hiding weapons
Russ
<ch...@clyth.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>Question.
>If inspections are resulting in Saddam being disarmed, enthusiastically or
>reluctantly,
>why is a war required?
Because the "if" is not happening.
Russ
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"In related news, President Chirac said the US had failed to show
BaronjosefR
if he doesnet turn anything over it proves hes hiding weapons<<<<<<<
All he has to do is account for the thousands of chemical and biological
weapons that Iraq acknowledged having. That is it. Why doesn't he do that?
Tamfiiris Entwife
> Flame of the West wrote:
> > Holy Shiite! You don't say!
> Are you sure it isn't holy sunnite?
it's worse than that! it's sunny delight!
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And then says the thing
You should worry about. (1600s senryu)
Beeblebear
There is a document turned over to the UN by Saddam which was taken by the
USA who have only allowed their allies in warmongering to see the whole
thing.
The document is 10000 pages long. Bush has only released 3000 to the UN.
I trust Bush about as much as I trust Saddam. I want to know a damn good
reason
for not letting more than half of Iraq's declaration be known to the UN.
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If you can't convince them, confuse them.
Russ
<ch...@clyth.fsnet.co.uk> writes:
>There is a document turned over to the UN by Saddam which was taken by the
>USA who have only allowed their allies in warmongering to see the whole
>thing.
>The document is 10000 pages long. Bush has only released 3000 to the UN.
Utterly false. The entire document was released to the *Security Council* and
all permanent members received a full version
>I trust Bush about as much as I trust Saddam. I want to know a damn good
>reason
>for not letting more than half of Iraq's declaration be known to the UN.
Once you get your facts straight, get back to me.
Jenka
mcr...@aol.com (Russ) wrote:
>
> Utterly false. The entire document was released to the *Security Council* and
> all permanent members received a full version
>
'entire' document, you'd have to be WELL stupid / supportive of the Bush
regime. Like Russ!
>
> Once you get your facts straight, get back to me.
>
you're obviously the kinda fella that would stab someone in the back -
especially if he was asleep, and clutching his wallet!
T. T. Arvind
> it's worse than that! it's sunny delight!
Sunni delight - puts an ismail on your face
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Tamfiiris Entwife
> > it's worse than that! it's sunny delight!
>
> Sunni delight - puts an ismail on your face
wahhabi got here? waiter! there's a mosqueito in my drink!
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> I don't have to listen to you, T. T. Arvind!
>
> > > it's worse than that! it's sunny delight!
> >
> > Sunni delight - puts an ismail on your face
>
> wahhabi got here? waiter! there's a mosqueito in my drink!
kaffir a glass of water?
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with a large fortune.
Dlehmicke
>kaffir a glass of water?
Wadi you think happened to the all the water that used to be there?
BaronjosefR
USA who have only allowed their allies in warmongering to see the whole
thing.
The document is 10000 pages long. Bush has only released 3000 to the UN.
I trust Bush about as much as I trust Saddam. I want to know a damn good
reason
for not letting more than half of Iraq's declaration be known to the UN.<<<<<
You kust keep on ignoring the fact that even Hans Blix acknowledges that Sodamn
is hiding banned weapons. Any arguement to the contrary is uninformed and
really shows off your ignorance.
Beeblebear
I watched him giving his report a couple of weeks ago. He said that the
american "evidence" (as provided by Colin Powell) was inconclusive and that
he had found nothing more than some missiles (note missiles - not warheads)
that could go about 50 miles more than the limits set by the UN. He also
said that Saddam (Get the spelling right. Sodamn is neither big nor clever)
was not co-operating as fully as he could, but was co-operating to an
extent.
He did not mention that he assumed that Saddam was hiding WMDs.
That is not an argument. That is a staement of fact. Any attempt to refute
it shows stupidity on your part.
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Good judgement comes from bad experience, and a lot of that
comes from bad judgement.
BaronjosefR
That is not an argument. That is a staement of fact. Any attempt to refute
it shows stupidity on your part.<<<<<<<<<
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,79843,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/02/28/sprj.irq.main/index.html
You must feel like an idiot getting your ass beat all the time when you open
your yap concerning things of which you know nothing substantive.
Beeblebear
Nice snippage.
I was referring to the Valentine's day presentation where Mr Blix was
far more positive than he was in that reprot you cited.
Unfortunately for your position, Mr Blix a few hours ago stated that the
destruction of the 120 missiles in question was a significant step towards
disarming Saddam.
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BaronjosefR
far more positive than he was in that reprot you cited.
Unfortunately for your position, Mr Blix a few hours ago stated that the
destruction of the 120 missiles in question was a significant step towards
disarming Saddam.<<<<<
Please also quote the part where Blix acknowledges that Iraq is still building
those missles and components, even after they agreed to destroy them.