Towing with a Toyota
BD
Just a short story. Move on if you're so inclined...
Well, last night I towed probably the largest trailer I ever have with my
trucklet. I have a Toyota xtracab 4x4 that I use around the place. I've
pulled car haulers and hay wagons, firewood stumps and boats, but this
trailer was 4 feet wider than my truck and probably weighed twice as much.
Last night I went to visit a pal who has had marital difficulties. His wife
booted him to the trailer in the yard, from the new house he bought a couple
years ago. He's had some health problems too so hasn't been working his
independent job as much as he'd like. He's also been borrowing a little
money around town to get by. Everybody is starting to kick him while he's
down.
We were chatting outside and his wife came out to see who he was talking to.
She went off like a banshee and had to give him a major snarl in my
presence. She wanted him and that damn trailer out of there, yesterday. When
she went back inside, I looked at the dude and said we're hooking that
trailer up right now and dragging it over to my place!
I'm a pretty private guy, but I just can't stand by while a brother get the
crap kicked out of him.
It was a grunt of a haul, no trailer brakes and weak tires. I crept that pig
the 2 miles over to my place. I got it parked out by the shop in the
Giddings site. An hour later we had it leveled and blocked, power hooked up
and coffee going on his camp stove.
The guy looked at me with a tear in his eye and said "thanks."
That was enough.
BD
Guess Who?
Any guy with a wife like that, is sure lucky to have a pal like you!
Let's just hope, that after living close, and personal, with the guy
for a while - That you don't end up feeling just like his former Mrs!
How big was the trailer you pulled with a Toyota (4 banger)?
Don
HHamp5246
>
>That was enough.
Good job BD,
I'm proud to know you.
Hunter
http://members.aol.com/airstm2268/roadtrip2003.htm
My rig: http://members.aol.com/airstm2268/excella.htm
"You only get to choose what you read, not what I write."
BD
"Guess Who?" <DonLa...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:2556-405...@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net...
I knew somebody would ask, so I just went out and measured it.
It's 8 X 19 feet. I was wrong that it was twice as wide as my trucklet.
The Toy is about 5_1/2 feet wide and a V6, but that trailer _looked_ 4 feet
wider in the mirrors.
We aren't living close and personal. He's out by the shop, about 300 paces
away.
He'll take care of himself. There's a State Park a mile away where he can
shower for $.50 cents. Dump his urine jug there too. He eats in town. I told
him to come on in and use the crapper if he's in dire need. Single guys are
self reliant. He just needed to get out from under his shrew-ex. I've seen
him bend over backwards since their divorce. She needs something, he's there
to handle it. He has a problem and he's a f'ing lowlife. He's tried to be
civil because they have a young son together. He has suffered several
downsizes in lifestyle since his divorce. I couldn't stand to see what's
left of his pride, be crushed by his ex. I saw all I needed to see.
It'll work out for him, now that he's not living on the property under her
control.
Anyway, this is probably more than most folks care to know.
BD
Bob Giddings
wrote:
I hope it stays that way. Looked at from the outside, not knowing the
guy, this might go really badly. I hope it goes well. At least you
know you can haul him away if you need to.
I hauled a 5000 lb trailer with a 6 cyl Bronco once. Once. The
problem wasn't hauling. It was stopping.
Bob
www.arcatapet.net/bobgiddings
Current email at:
bobgiddings0 at yahoo dot com
BD
"Bob Giddings" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:8pur50tl5afjbqot8...@4ax.com...
>
> I hope it stays that way. Looked at from the outside, not knowing the
> guy, this might go really badly. I hope it goes well. At least you
> know you can haul him away if you need to.
Yeah, anything can happen. Generally, one can feel taken advantage of after
a while.
I didn't do it for any personal gain. I see people all the time that show
indifference. They are worried they might be put out or suffer some imagined
loss, or just can't be bothered. I had to do something for the guy, no one
else was stepping up. He's not a bum, just having some problems. What can I
say? The decision was obvious for me. I chose to believe there is some
unseen good in the situ rather than expect the worse. Didn't you tell me to
consider something along those lines once?
> I hauled a 5000 lb trailer with a 6 cyl Bronco once. Once. The
> problem wasn't hauling. It was stopping.
LoL..I crept that beast no faster than 20 mph. You've seen the roads around
here. Had one downhill that I just left it in 2cd gear to the bottom. No one
wanted to pass in the 2-3 miles over here.
BD
Bob Giddings
wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 12:06:04 -0800, "BD" <bd_...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
> He just needed to get out from under his shrew-ex. I've seen
>>him bend over backwards since their divorce. She needs something, he's there
>>to handle it. He has a problem and he's a f'ing lowlife. He's tried to be
>>civil because they have a young son together. He has suffered several
>>downsizes in lifestyle since his divorce.
>
>A common story, unfortunately. Some women, particularly those whose
>husbands initiate the divorce, become super-bitches, wanting
>emasculation and revenge. The only defense is flight: been there,
>done that.
>
>Canoli
>
I am unaccustomed to agreeing with Canoli, but I do. Be close
together if you want. Be far apart if you want. But never, never,
never try to do both at once.
Bob Giddings
wrote:
>
>"Bob Giddings" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:8pur50tl5afjbqot8...@4ax.com...
>>
>> I hope it stays that way. Looked at from the outside, not knowing the
>> guy, this might go really badly. I hope it goes well. At least you
>> know you can haul him away if you need to.
>
>Yeah, anything can happen. Generally, one can feel taken advantage of after
>a while.
>I didn't do it for any personal gain. I see people all the time that show
>indifference. They are worried they might be put out or suffer some imagined
>loss, or just can't be bothered. I had to do something for the guy, no one
>else was stepping up. He's not a bum, just having some problems. What can I
>say? The decision was obvious for me. I chose to believe there is some
>unseen good in the situ rather than expect the worse. Didn't you tell me to
>consider something along those lines once?
Probably, but then what the hell do I know? :o)
My brother is getting a divorce right now. He wants to do it himself
to save some money, and because he knew I had done that a couple of
times he asked me about it. I advised against it, since there is
property involved. I told him that really the only way it works is if
you just give her anything she wants. Whether that "saves money" is
problematic. It certainly makes things simpler, and clears the mind.
"Give her anything she wants." I guess divorce works just like
marriage.
He said he might as well give it a try. "If there's a problem, I can
always get a lawyer then." One step at a time.
As far as your situation, I'd probably have done the same thing. If
he's a friend. Good luck.
And check the brakes on that Toyota. You may need it as a toad to
haul behind Lon's Itasca. :o)
Rick J.
<<SNIP>>
> The guy looked at me with a tear in his eye and said "thanks."
>
> That was enough.
Dang BD, you got me all choked up. Good fer you.
Rick J.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
wrote:
>
>My brother is getting a divorce right now. He wants to do it himself
>to save some money, and because he knew I had done that a couple of
>times he asked me about it. I advised against it, since there is
>property involved. I told him that really the only way it works is if
>you just give her anything she wants. Whether that "saves money" is
>problematic. It certainly makes things simpler, and clears the mind.
>
>"Give her anything she wants." I guess divorce works just like
>marriage.
Definition of property division in a divorce: - Make two equal piles
of the marital assets. Give one pile to the woman and the other to
the lawyer.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
(return address needs alteration to work)
BD
> And check the brakes on that Toyota. You may need it as a toad to
> haul behind Lon's Itasca. :o)
<g> I see you picked right up on that. I have been in touch with Lon and
hope he'll give me a shot at acceptance/refusal before his deal is done.
I'll be selling the toy for a different toad. I like what you like in a
offroad vehicle. And if I can buy Lon's IT, the house goes on the market
almost pronto. Oh, and that albatros of a truck that's in my shop...I got a
call from a guy in Kansas today that thinks he has a buyer for it. Yay! and
fingers crossed.
BD
Meep
"BD" <bd_...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message ...
Neon John
sasktel d0t net> wrote:
>On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:12:53 -0600 Bob Giddings <m...@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>>"Give her anything she wants." I guess divorce works just like
>>marriage.
>
>Definition of property division in a divorce: - Make two equal piles
>of the marital assets. Give one pile to the woman and the other to
>the lawyer.
Negatory. At least not for me. When my ex decided to sew her oats elsewhere
a couple of years ago I told her that she could accept my terms and maybe live
happily ever after or she could fight me and die. She knew me well enough to
take my terms. She took her crap and left. I kept my crap, the restaurant,
the MH, the cars, etc. Oh, and she paid for the lawyer.
Splitting up shook me to my bones because I could have never imagined us not
being married. Two years out, that was the best damned thing that ever
happened to me. Looking back, I just can't believe how much sh*t spouses tend
to give each other. Now that my immunity to spousal BS has worn off, watching
my married friends interact really bothers me sometimes. I just sit there and
think "I'd backhand anyone who talked to me like that". And then I think,
"man, I used to put up with that same sort of crap". Amazing.
BD, tell your friend to lift up his head and put the past behind him. He has
a marvelous new opportunity in front of him. Maybe he can't work at what he
used to because of the health problems but this could be an opportunity too.
As long as he keeps his nose out of the bottle he'll be OK.
John
---
John De Armond
johngdDO...@bellsouth.net
http://bellsouthpwp.net/j/o/johngd/
Cleveland, Occupied TN
HHamp5246
d0t evans at sasktel d0t net> writes:
>Definition of property division in a divorce: - Make two equal piles
>of the marital assets. Give one pile to the woman and the other to
>the lawyer.
I think I'm highly qualified to be in this discussion <g>
My last divorce had the most assets...... I told him we could fight for years,
and give most of it to attorneys or we could figure it out ourselves and have
one lawyer.
The divorce cost $800.00.
BD
"HHamp5246" <hham...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20040321210313...@mb-m20.aol.com...
> In article <jr3s50hs9h4cq1iah...@4ax.com>, "R.J.(Bob) Evans"
<bob
> d0t evans at sasktel d0t net> writes:
>
> >Definition of property division in a divorce: - Make two equal piles
> >of the marital assets. Give one pile to the woman and the other to
> >the lawyer.
>
> I think I'm highly qualified to be in this discussion <g>
>
> My last divorce had the most assets...... I told him we could fight for
years,
> and give most of it to attorneys or we could figure it out ourselves and
have
> one lawyer.
>
> The divorce cost $800.00.
>
> Hunter
I followed the Neon John method of settlement and kept my house. Harsh
maybe, but I built it with my own hands, paid for the materials with my
wages and labor trades and wanted to live here. Our divorce cost $28 for the
form package and a $76 filling fee. I kept my stuff, she kept hers and some
of mine too. Hey, nothing's perfect. It's too bad ppl can't be as civil
going away as they were coming together.
BD
GBinNC
wrote:
>My last divorce had the most assets...... I told him we could fight for years,
>and give most of it to attorneys or we could figure it out ourselves and have
>one lawyer.
>
>The divorce cost $800.00.
If both of you were satisfied with the outcome, you done good.
A couple of years ago the wife of my long-time best buddy was
traveling around the world, as she had done before -- but unbeknownst
to my friend, she wasn't alone this time. When he stumbled onto the
news, he flew from NC to CA to confront her (at a prearranged meeting
for a nephew's wedding).
He hadn't seen her in several months, and after she tearfully
apologized for deceiving him they spent the night together. The next
day he came to his senses and decided to pursue a divorce, which as it
turns out is what she wanted anyway.
That one night cost him almost a million bucks (half his assets -- she
had always been a "free spirit" and had accumulated almost nothing of
her own). He says it was by far the most expensive "piece" he ever
had, and as a result he's still working now when he was planning to
retire a year ago.
GB in NC
GBinNC
wrote:
>I followed the Neon John method of settlement and kept my house. Harsh
>maybe, but I built it with my own hands, paid for the materials with my
>wages and labor trades and wanted to live here. Our divorce cost $28 for the
>form package and a $76 filling fee. I kept my stuff, she kept hers and some
>of mine too. Hey, nothing's perfect. It's too bad ppl can't be as civil
>going away as they were coming together.
LOL. All this talk makes me glad I got divorced when I was young
enough that I didn't have enough assets to really worry about -- and
besides, I was glad to pay whatever it cost to be free to try again.
It was well worth it. The second time I got it right, although
sometimes I'm not so sure Mrs. GB always agrees <g>.
GB in NC
Guess Who?
head with divorce. Some of the stuff I've seen is both heartwretching,
and horrible. I don't think Mr. & Mrs Hyde could be much worse!
The former Mrs. Lampson was an honorable woman , but marrying her was
the worst mistake I ever made! The last time I saw her, (in 1990) she
made my skin crawl!
If I didn't have so much to be happy about, I'd celebrate our
divorce, like it was Christmas! What a relief to be rid of her!
Don
GBinNC
Who?) wrote:
> The former Mrs. Lampson was an honorable woman , ...
How nice that you can say that. I'm serious.
My first wife was completely dishonorable in every possible way. I was
too young to know what I was doing and married her for all the wrong
reasons. I am eternally grateful that I was able to get out before she
dragged me down to her level. She was evil personified, down to the
core.
> If I didn't have so much to be happy about, I'd celebrate our
>divorce, like it was Christmas! What a relief to be rid of her!
I almost never think about mine. I have no idea what she's done with
her life since I last saw her nearly 30 years ago and couldn't care
less. I'm just glad I'm not a part of it. The opposite of love is not
hate, but indifference; it takes energy to hate, and she's just not
worth it.
I believe there's a special place in hell for people who callously
ruin other people's lives (not mine, fortunately -- I got out in time)
the way she did and probably still does. As a friend said a long time
ago, "The battlefield is littered with bodies."
It's hard for me to believe now that I was ever involved in any way
with someone like her. I've never known anybody else like that. She
was one in a million -- and obviously that's not a compliment.
GB in NC
Jeff Deeney
It's nice to have the TT to fall back on if I should be getting
kicked out at 2am. I have good friends that have offered
parking space.
-Jeff Deeney-
BD
"Jeff Deeney" <jde...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:xOydnTNIabR...@comcast.com...
Thanks Jeff.
I'm sure he's glad he still had the trailer. I heard his ex was after him to
sell it. I'd guess that was in her plans to further strangle and neuter him.
He had left this AM and tonight when I saw lights on, I went over to see how
he was getting along. He had picked up his TV from storage, had some coffee
going and a smile on his face. Said he took his boy and a friend to the
movies and then went to get this guy we both know who has become legally
blind and can't drive anymore. He said he took him to the grocery and did a
few chores.
Of course my cat had to go over last night and check everything out. D said
he gave the place a good mice check and had to snooze and purr on the bed
for a while. Said he slept like a baby, enjoying the wind and the owl hoots
and the general quiet.
Day one was a success.
BD
Neon John
wrote:
> The former Mrs. Lampson was an honorable woman , but marrying her was
>the worst mistake I ever made! The last time I saw her, (in 1990) she
>made my skin crawl!
> If I didn't have so much to be happy about, I'd celebrate our
>divorce, like it was Christmas! What a relief to be rid of her!
I think those short marriages are the easy ones to leave. The hard ones are
like mine was. Mine was 27 years long, 25 of which were glorious bliss. Then
she started losing her mind, I think. GB's right, the opposite of love IS
indifference. I don't hate her and I don't love her. I don't care at all. I
do hate the way she left and what she did afterward but even that is in the
past. I cherish the memories but they end about 2 years ago.
Guess Who?
Well my marriage was almost seven years, instead of 27, but it was
still far too long. It's always easier for "the other guy", than it
is yourself, to go through a divorce!
Half the knack of being a bully, is knowing who to pick on, I
wouldn't think of threatening my ex's life. What the hell would you
have done if she sicced the law on you?
The "big house" is full of guys who tried to, or did kill their ex,
because they didn't want to divey up. Some of them get so crazy they
kill their kids too!
Just last week, in Fresno, CA, there was a guy who killed nine
people, over a divorce.....
I hope we don't read about you going berserk in the paper.....
Don
Rick J.
> I think those short marriages are the easy ones to leave. The hard ones are
> like mine was. Mine was 27 years long, 25 of which were glorious bliss.
Looks like I'm the odd man out in this thread. My wife and I will have
been married 47 years if we last till this June. And we still call each
other by our first names. <g>
Rick J.
Bob Giddings
wrote:
>
>"Bob Giddings" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
>news:po0s50dp4pilqhvfl...@4ax.com...
>
>> And check the brakes on that Toyota. You may need it as a toad to
>> haul behind Lon's Itasca. :o)
>
><g> I see you picked right up on that. I have been in touch with Lon and
>hope he'll give me a shot at acceptance/refusal before his deal is done.
>I'll be selling the toy for a different toad. I like what you like in a
>offroad vehicle. And if I can buy Lon's IT, the house goes on the market
>almost pronto. Oh, and that albatros of a truck that's in my shop...I got a
>call from a guy in Kansas today that thinks he has a buyer for it. Yay! and
>fingers crossed.
>BD
Congrats if you get rid of the project.
I have never seen Lon's bus, and am unlikely to, but reasonable people
say it's nice.
One thing I do know. Having seen your house - hell, having seen your
shop - however nice it is, it'll probably be just as nice 5 years
after you get it.
HDinNY
The 18 year old kid I married has stuck by me for over 47
years. In my eyes and mind she's still 18 years old.
HD in FL
ww...@cwnet.com
You are not the only one. My first wife and I are working on our
fiftieth year. She keeps telling me to not count on another one but we
are both too stubborn to quit.
George
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 06:50:10 GMT, "Rick J." <rjoh...@comcast.net>
wrote:
Meep
happy campers. UNTIL... about two years later and he filed bankruptcy and somehow it ended up on MY credit report.
Grrrr..... took years to get that offa there. But the divorce part was well-executed and not terrible - so it can happen. :)
"BD" <bd_...@REMOVETHISyahoo.com> wrote in message "> one lawyer.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
of his periodic intelligent posts which keep him out of my twit bin:
>I don't hate my ex: she was wrong, I was wrong, and we jointly
>contributed to the collapse of our marriage.
Tom Marik
maybe, but I built it with my own hands, paid for the materials with my wages
and labor trades and wanted to live here. >>
Hell, my wife got the house five years ago and we're still married! But, I'm
pretty sure I'll get to keep the rig.
Tom M, giving away the Toyota (91 Previa with 187 thousand miles)
Paul Knudsen
wrote:
>
>I'm a pretty private guy, but I just can't stand by while a brother get the
>crap kicked out of him.
I salute you, BD.
--
Get on the NRA Blacklist: http://www.NRAblacklist.com
BD
"Paul Knudsen" <Hu...@dodgeit.com> wrote in message
news:3lqk609quok29em2t...@4ax.com...
Man, this is a late post. But thanks, PK.
He's still here and everything's going fine.
BD
Guess Who?
You're not starting to feel sorry for the guy's ex-wife are you?
Don
BD
"Guess Who?" <DonLa...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:23030-40...@storefull-3133.bay.webtv.net...
> BD
> You're not starting to feel sorry for the guy's ex-wife are you?
> Don
>
No, definately not.
Paul Knudsen
wrote:
>
>
>Man, this is a late post. But thanks, PK.
>He's still here and everything's going fine.
>BD
I know, I sometimes go a week or two between scanning this group.
Glad your friend is holding up. I guess it is really lucky he had a
trailer.
Been wondering whether either of you considered "bitch-slapping" the
old hag. :)
BD
>
> Glad your friend is holding up. I guess it is really lucky he had a
> trailer.
Yes, he had it for sale the week before he had to leave his apartment.
He stayed only one night in it at the ex's (his old house) before she
insisted he find other accomodations.
>
> Been wondering whether either of you considered "bitch-slapping" the
> old hag. :)
Nah, she's slapping herself. Friend used to bend over backward to make her
happy. He'd fix this and that...be at her beck and call. A week away has him
realizing that if she needs a friend, she better get a dog. <g>
His son is still there though, and reports that "mom" is rather losing it. I
told my friend to get his plan together and be ready to take his son. He
(son) is only months away from declaring that life with mom is un-bearable.
And then she can pay _him_ support!
He's doing much better, especially mentally.
BD
Jeff Deeney
Don't know if this has already been posted on RORT.
-Jeff Deeney-
----------------
Dear Becky,
I know the counselor said we shouldn't contact each other during our
"cooling off" period, but I couldn't wait anymore. The day you left, I swore
I'd never talk to you again. But that was just the wounded little boy in me
talking. Still, I never wanted to be the first one to make contact.
In my fantasies, it was always you who would come crawling back to me. I
guess my pride needed that. But now I see that my pride's cost me a lot of
things. I'm tired of pretending I don't miss you. I don't care about
looking bad anymore. I don't care who makes the first move as long as one of
us does.
Maybe it's time we let our hearts speak as loudly as our hurt. And this is
what my heart says: "There's no one like you, Becky." I look for you in the
eyes and breasts of every woman I see, but they're not you. They're not even
close.
Two weeks ago, I met this girl at Flamingos and brought her home with me. I
don't say this to hurt you, but just to illustrate the depth of my
desperation.
She was young, maybe 19; with one of those perfect bodies that only youth
and maybe a childhood spent ice skating can give you. I mean, just a perfect
body. Tits like you wouldn't believe and an ass that just wouldn't quit.
Every man's dream, right? But as I sat on the couch being blown by this
stunner, I thought, look at the stuff we've made important in our lives.
It's all so superficial.
What does a perfect body mean? Does it make her better in bed? Well, in this
case, yes, but you see what I'm getting at. Does it make her a better
person? Does she have a better heart than my moderately attractive Becky? I
doubt it. And I'd never really thought of that before.
I don't know, maybe I'm just growing up a little. Later, after I'd tossed
her about a half a pint of throat yogurt, I found myself thinking, "Why do I
feel so drained and empty?" It wasn't just her flawless technique or her
slutty, shameless hunger, but something else. Some nagging feeling of loss.
Why did it feel so incomplete? And then it hit me. It didn't feel the same
because you weren't there to watch. Do you know what I mean? Nothing feels
the same without you. Jesus, Becky, I'm just going crazy without you. And
everything I do just reminds me of you.
Do you remember Carol, that single mom we met at the Holiday Inn lounge last
year? Well, she dropped by last week with a pan of lasagna. She said she
figured I wasn't eating right without a woman around. I didn't know what she
meant till later, but that's not the real story.
Anyway, we had a few glasses of wine and the next thing you know, we're
banging away in our old bedroom. And this tart's a total monster in the
sack. She's giving me everything, you know, like a real woman does when
she's not hung up about her weight or her career and whether the kids can
hear us. And all of a sudden, she spots that tilting mirror on your
grandmother's old vanity. So she puts it on the floor and we straddle it,
right, so we can watch ourselves. And it's totally hot, but it makes me sad,
too. Cause I can't help thinking, "Why didn't Becky ever put the mirror on
the floor? We've had this old vanity for what, 14 years, and we never used
it as a sex toy."
Saturday, your sister drops by with my copy of the restraining order. I
mean, Vicky's just a kid and all, but she's got a pretty good head on her
shoulders and she's been a real friend to me during this painful time.
She's given me lots of good advice about you and about women in general.
She's pulling for us to get back together, Becky, she really is. So we're
doing Jell-O shots in a hot bubble bath and talking about happier times.
Here's this teenage girl with the same DNA as you and all I can do is think
of how much she looked like you when you were 18. And that just about makes
me cry. And then it turns out Vicky's really into the whole anal thing,
that gets me to thinking about how many times I pressured you about trying
it and how that probably fueled some of the bitterness between us. But do
you see how even then, when I'm thrusting inside your baby sister's cinnamon
ring, all I can do is think of you? It's true, Becky. In your heart you must
know it.
Don't you think we could start over? Just wipe out all the grievances away
and start fresh? I think we can. If you feel the same please, please,
please let me know. Otherwise, can you let me know where the fucking remote
is.
Love, Dan
Guess Who?
I think DB's pal, would have a tough time pulling that one off,
while his trailer is parked out by DB's shed, with no vehicle to move
it... YMMV
Don