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james t kirk

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Mar 11, 2002, 9:03:21 AM3/11/02
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_1866000/1866208.stm

In a move widely supported by Pharmaceutical cartels and criminals the
EU has decided to ban useful doses of vitamins. There are three
reasons for this act of seeming stupidity, listed below.

1 - To limit the lifespan of EU subjects, decreasing the amount of
money European governments have to spend on pensions.

2 - Bribes by Pharmaceutical giants and criminals. More sick people
will give pharmaceutical companies more money and drug dealers will
gain control of a new market.

3 - To increase the powers of the police. Idiotic laws mean the police
need ever more draconian powers to enforce them.

You may be asking what you can do to prevent this act of villainy. The
answer is nothing. The EU is not democratic and answerable to nobody.
You will do as you are told or face the consequences.

carldent

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Mar 11, 2002, 10:14:07 AM3/11/02
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1 - To limit the lifespan of EU subjects, decreasing the amount of
money European governments have to spend on pensions.

2 - Bribes by Pharmaceutical giants and criminals. More sick people
will give pharmaceutical companies more money and drug dealers will
gain control of a new market.

3 - To increase the powers of the police. Idiotic laws mean the police
need ever more draconian powers to enforce them.

################
I have a friend that visits family in America on a regular basis, he gets
all the stuff I need its on sale over there and these things are not illegal
to have in ones possession
just not on sale in the silly EU. the crooks friend, and the prices in the
USA. are low you could be pleasantly surprised.


Steve Harris

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Mar 11, 2002, 3:02:44 PM3/11/02
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"james t kirk" <james_...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2a8f35e1.02031...@posting.google.com...

> You may be asking what you can do to prevent this act of villainy. The
> answer is nothing. The EU is not democratic and answerable to nobody.
> You will do as you are told or face the consequences


COMMENT:

A nice description of the law anywhere. But of course the poster is
hysterical. The EU is manifestly democratic: if all the people of all the
member nations demanded vitamin rights, and refused to elect politicians who
didn't support them, then the EU would have no voting members who didn't
feel the same way.

But Europeans are sheep. They're watched by videocameras, they've given up
their firearms, and now that their governments are in their bathrooms
rumaging around in their vitamins bottles, they'll permit that, too. With
only a little squawking-- not enough to make any difference. You see, they
long ago gave up any idea that the government was not all-wise, and should
control anything having anything to do with ways in which persons might hurt
their little selves. Which means, everything.

Get used to it, James T. Kirk. This is not Star Trek. If you live in Europe,
you're not only not the captain of a starship, you're not even captain of
your own intestines. Sad for you, but there it is.

Have you thought of moving to Alaska?

SBH

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james t kirk

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Mar 12, 2002, 6:37:06 AM3/12/02
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"Steve Harris" <sbha...@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com> wrote in message news:<a6j2p4$ii1$1...@slb5.atl.mindspring.net>...

> "james t kirk" <james_...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:2a8f35e1.02031...@posting.google.com...
>
> > You may be asking what you can do to prevent this act of villainy. The
> > answer is nothing. The EU is not democratic and answerable to nobody.
> > You will do as you are told or face the consequences
>
>
> COMMENT:
>
> A nice description of the law anywhere. But of course the poster is
> hysterical. The EU is manifestly democratic: if all the people of all the
> member nations demanded vitamin rights, and refused to elect politicians who
> didn't support them, then the EU would have no voting members who didn't
> feel the same way.


The EU is not democratic at all. MEPs have next to no power. The
commisioners have it all sewn up. European commisioners are appointed.
There is no way to get rid of them when they have been appointed.

>
> But Europeans are sheep. They're watched by videocameras, they've given up
> their firearms, and now that their governments are in their bathrooms
> rumaging around in their vitamins bottles, they'll permit that, too. With
> only a little squawking-- not enough to make any difference. You see, they
> long ago gave up any idea that the government was not all-wise, and should
> control anything having anything to do with ways in which persons might hurt
> their little selves. Which means, everything.


What do you recommend I do? Any protests I make are viewed as
hysterical ( see your own comments). Besides the police in the UK
routinely use use chemical weapons against protestors.


>
> Get used to it, James T. Kirk. This is not Star Trek. If you live in Europe,
> you're not only not the captain of a starship, you're not even captain of
> your own intestines. Sad for you, but there it is.

unfortunatly true.


>
> Have you thought of moving to Alaska?

what, and leave all this behind? :)

>
> SBH

Best regards,

Captain James T Kirk

JEDilworth

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Mar 12, 2002, 10:37:01 AM3/12/02
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Are residents of UK allowed to buy vitamins by mail order? Surely there
are enough internet opportunities to buy vitamins that I can't see where
there's a problem unless they are subject to huge tariffs or mail
inspection.

Can you just take more than one pill at a time if you want to take a
higher dosage?

Maybe I'm missing something.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

Fred Bloggs

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Mar 12, 2002, 10:50:24 AM3/12/02
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> But Europeans are sheep. They're watched by videocameras, they've given up
> their firearms, and now that their governments are in their bathrooms
> rumaging around in their vitamins bottles, they'll permit that, too. With
> only a little squawking-- not enough to make any difference. You see, they
> long ago gave up any idea that the government was not all-wise, and should
> control anything having anything to do with ways in which persons might hurt
> their little selves. Which means, everything.

Be sure to post again in a year or so the the Feds get laws to do
whatever they want to US citizens regarding gun control, internet
access, encryption, freedom of travel etc... hope you`re whiter than
white (in terms of both criminal record and skin colour).

Steve Harris

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Mar 12, 2002, 3:55:24 PM3/12/02
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"Fred Bloggs" <mrfred...@altavista.co.uk> wrote in message
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> white (in terms of both criminal record and skin color

COMMENT:

I am actually whiter than white. I've joked that I have the kind of face
with which I could come out of a bank where alarms are going off, with a
full pillowcase slung over one shoulder, and cops coming up would still say
"which way did they go?" and I'd point, and off they'd run.

I am disgusted that this should be so, of course, and I'm more than
disgusted at the kinds of basic freedoms we in the US are about to lose due
to 9-11. And that's with the Republicans in charge. If it was the
Clintonian Democrats, it would be far worse.

However, Europe has less excuse. Australia and Canada have even less excuse.
America rebelled against the British empire, and has ever since had a
suspiciouness of government, tempered by the long presense of the Western
frontier, in which the small densities of people made self-sufficiency
mandatory. We're now 112 years after the closing of that frontier, and
overgovernment is now creaping toward us Westerners from both coasts.

I presently live in Utah, which is an island in the middle of the basically
waterless and empty Western US (West meaning everything West of the
Missouri, excluding the California coast), and is therefore isolated in the
middle of this creeping government madness. Places like Montana and Alaska
are other islands. When they're finally gone, there won't be anyplace left.
Even here.

Personal freedom is ever the victim of fear, crowding, money interests, and
just plain emotionalism. Even in Utah, concealed carry permit holders were
prohibited from attending the olympics with weapons-- this in a state in
which they can carry firearms into churches, schools and many government
buildings (by the way, no crime with a concealed weapon has ever been
committed by a holder of such a permit in this state, in the history of the
law). Still, what Utahns have formerly seen as a basic state constitutional
right was inturupted by the publicity-crazed legislature for 3 weeks, in the
interests of money (boosterism) and vanity (the mad desire of Utahns not to
look too funny to the rest of the world, which also warped the admittedly
Puritan public drinking laws here for a few weeks). If that can happen for
lesser reasons such as those, it can happen for many others. I despair.

SBH

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Steve Harris

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Mar 12, 2002, 3:58:51 PM3/12/02
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"james t kirk" <james_...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Steve Harris" <sbha...@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com> wrote in message
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> > "james t kirk" <james_...@lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:2a8f35e1.02031...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > > You may be asking what you can do to prevent this act of villainy. The
> > > answer is nothing. The EU is not democratic and answerable to nobody.
> > > You will do as you are told or face the consequences
> >
> >
> > COMMENT:
> >
> > A nice description of the law anywhere. But of course the poster is
> > hysterical. The EU is manifestly democratic: if all the people of all
the
> > member nations demanded vitamin rights, and refused to elect politicians
who
> > didn't support them, then the EU would have no voting members who didn't
> > feel the same way.
>
>
> The EU is not democratic at all. MEPs have next to no power. The
> commisioners have it all sewn up. European commisioners are appointed.
> There is no way to get rid of them when they have been appointed.


COMMENT:

Are you suggesting that they're appointed for life, and are immortal? You
nitwit.

> What do you recommend I do? Any protests I make are viewed as
> hysterical ( see your own comments). Besides the police in the UK
> routinely use use chemical weapons against protestors.


Vote with your feet.


> > Have you thought of moving to Alaska?
>
> what, and leave all this behind? :)

Yep. Old Woody Allen joke about the people complaining about the bad food,
and also the small portions. That's life: one horrid thing after another,
and it's over much too quickly.

ada

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Mar 13, 2002, 1:07:32 AM3/13/02
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"Since January 1, 2001, Russians have enjoyed a 13 percent flat tax.
That's right. The once-Communist superpower now stands to the right of
publisher Steve Forbes on taxes. The former GOP presidential contender
staunchly advocates a 17 percent flat tax…"

This paragraph is from the National Review site, March 1, 2002.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock030102.shtml
Therefore, no reason to come to Alaska. I am sure that the Russians
would be happy to sell/smuggle all the supplements that you need in
whatever doses. And above all the Russians learned how to treat
radical Muslim terrorists.

ada

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Alpha Male

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Mar 13, 2002, 12:14:00 PM3/13/02
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"ada" <ben...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Since January 1, 2001, Russians have enjoyed a 13 percent flat tax.
> That's right. The once-Communist superpower now stands to the right of
> publisher Steve Forbes on taxes. The former GOP presidential contender
> staunchly advocates a 17 percent flat tax."

>
> This paragraph is from the National Review site, March 1, 2002.
> http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock030102.shtml
> Therefore, no reason to come to Alaska. I am sure that the Russians
> would be happy to sell/smuggle all the supplements that you need in
> whatever doses. And above all the Russians learned how to treat
> radical Muslim terrorists.
>
No need to depend on the Russians. There's tremendous opportunity here to
get into the smuggling bizz yourself. The most logical areas would be the
poorer countries surrounding the EU,,,put on your thinking cap...

John

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Mar 17, 2002, 3:28:55 PM3/17/02
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:58:51 -0700, "Steve Harris"
<sbha...@ix.RETICULATEDOBJECTcom.com> wrote:


>COMMENT:
>
>Are you suggesting that they're appointed for life, and are immortal? You
>nitwit.
>

Steve,
EU Commissioners, appointed by member governments, are usually failed
politicians or those whom the government want to reward, or see the
back of. They operate behind closed doors, issue directives which
trample over the laws of member states and are on the gravy train for
life. A couple of years ago they were forced to resign en masse over a
corruption scandal involving some of the commission members. They had
to be dragged kicking and screaming from office.

A few years ago, they gave an illegal subsidy to a member state's
national airline. When questioned, the transport commissioner said
simply that they would change the law to make it legal.

These are the same people who are attempting to bribe / coerce the
people of Gibraltar to give up 300 year old Crown Colony status to
allow power-sharing with Spain. They will receive £33 million for new
roads, infrastructure etc. only if they vote for power-sharing. The
citizens steadfastly want to remain British.

They are basically unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats and the voters
have no power to remove them.

I hope you receive a bonus from the Alaskan Tourist Office. I foresee
a massive influx from Europe in the not too distant future.

John


welsh witch

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Mar 25, 2002, 12:14:29 AM3/25/02
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"Andy B" <anb...@nospamm.my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> If this friend re-enters the EU and gets stopped by customs he could
> be in for a surprise. They might pull him to court argueing that he
> was going to sell the stuff. This is illegal in most countries (in
the
> EU).
>
> This still depends a lot on the country he is actually entering.
We're
> not completely harmonized here. Yet.
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
********************
Pharmaceutical companies have it all sewed up in this country.We know
all about the antics in the animal world.
Pharmaceutical companies like Welcom provide wonderful libraries for
vets and all sorts of other benefits such as seminars and what they
get up to there!!
AND do you know just how many politicians are deeply involved with
pharmaceutical companies receiving huge handouts ...really csh for
questions/influence etc etc... (Read Catherine O'Driscoll's book "What
the vets dont tell us about vaccines") I'm sure it applies to human
medicine also..
If you look on the register of MP's interests and earnings it could
open your eyes but I guess the writer of this post knows all about
that!!http://www.walk-wales.org.uk/footballvic.htm
http://www.walk-wales.org.uk/overload.htm


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