Ten's Complement's Zevo is available now
Chris Ridd
Who is going to be first to try it out?
Chris
Paul Richards
Add this to the ignorant way I was treated when enquiring about the beta...
To me it's dead already...
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Chris Ridd
On 24 Jan 2012, at 17:40, Paul Richards wrote:
> I don't have a problem with commerce and making a living...
Nor do I!
> however I do have a problem with artificial limits imposed for marketing reasons.
The less crippled versions should be interesting.
>
> Add this to the ignorant way I was treated when enquiring about the beta...
That doesn't sound good. Mind you they did probably get a lot of enquiries from people who really wouldn't be appropriate customers/beta testers (see Macintouch's thread this week about ZFS and JBODs for examples!) so it must be tricky for them.
Chris
Chris Ridd
On 24 Jan 2012, at 17:49, yllum...@gmail.com wrote:
> Using the development version and it's absolutely out of this world. Completely stable and dedup is working incredibly well on my 4 drive raid-z. Really solid product.
What pool version does it support - does it use the feature stuff now in Illumos?
I'm surprised dedup is viable on a Mac. The DDT takes absolute shedloads of RAM - what kind of Mac have you got??!
Chris
George Kyriazis
how much does the development version cost? I don't see a price on their website.
Thank you!
George
Jason
Paul also has a point, I started the beta but seemed to get discarded rather quickly. Oh well, I didn't lose any sleep over it.
Jason
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yllum...@gmail.com
This system is currently running ZFS pool version 28.
BTW, we can also hot swap failed drives without a hiccup which is of course is super slick.
I'm running a beefy Mac Pro with 20GB, but after running my Mac full bore with extremely heavy file access while editing video, doing graphic design, and compiling apps while running some dev servers it's really going strong. Don has really done a great job over the last two months optimizing the crap out of this thing and to be honest, it seems to be doing better than on my FBSD server at the moment. The only real limitations of ZFS on the Mac seem to now be Apple's own memory arch for the kernel from what I'm gathering.
At any rate, well worth the investment from all of the epic effort Don's put into it. If you want to get in on the dev version, you might ask for Don directly at: sup...@tenscomplement.com
I think he'd be willing to work with you on getting you into the dev program, but I'm not at liberty to mention any prices or things beyond what he's got on the site. Heck, I've not checked the site over the last while so I don't know what the Silver really even encompasses, but I'd highly recommend shooting for the dev version.
-George
Anton
ZEVO was announced and I do not see the pool size limitations on the
product pages anymore.
-- Anton
churnd
would like to see them give something back to the ZFS community by
making their code somewhat open source, or at least make it possible
to download some of the binaries to use ZFS from command line for
free. The people they seem to be targeting with their current
marketing wouldn't be interested in that anyway & it would appease
those who don't like the current software limitations because they can
do it better on a different system. Something like how Nexenta.com is
providing NexentaStor. The only limitation to their product is the
"free" version is limited to 16TB storage. I know it's not a fair
comparison, but I guess the main point I'm trying to get at is I'd
like to see some kind of contribution back to the ZFS community from
TensCompliment, especially the Mac community.
Paul Richards
not interested...
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This system is currently running ZFS pool version 28.
BTW, we can also hot swap failed drives without a hiccup which is of course is super slick. The raid-z config is splendid.
Chris Ridd
On 24 Jan 2012, at 22:59, Paul Richards wrote:
> still limited as in no raidz - mirroring only
There's no mirroring in the silver version. Really quite a curious offering - there's very little benefit to running ZFS without multiple drives and redundancy.
Chris
Jason
Jason
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Chris Ridd
> Yeah sends the wrong message, ZFS is going to get the blame from people buying based on assumption without the proper education and losing data. All because a company decided to defeat the usefulness of ZFS through marketing. Joy.
I wonder if there's a technical reason for this. The released version doesn't appear to support multiple disks in any way; perhaps Zevo simply has difficulties with multiple disks at the moment?
Let's wait for the multi-disk versions...
Chris
ylluminate
This system is currently running ZFS pool version 28.
BTW, we can also hot swap failed drives without a hiccup which is of
getting rates of 400+MBps on write and there's still some improvement
going on in this area.
To further answer on my config wrt dedup, I'm running a beefy Mac Pro
file access while editing video, doing graphic design, and compiling
apps while running some dev servers it's really going strong. Don has
really done a great job over the last two months optimizing the crap
out of this thing and to be honest, it seems to be doing better than
on my FBSD server at the moment. The only real limitations of ZFS on
the Mac seem to now be Apple's own memory arch for the kernel from
what I'm gathering.
At any rate, well worth the investment from all of the epic effort
Don's put into it. If you want to get in on the dev version, you
might ask for Don directly at: sup...@tenscomplement.com
I think he'd be willing to work with you on getting you into the dev
program, but I'm not at liberty to mention any prices or things beyond
what he's got on the site. Heck, I've not checked the site over the
last while so I don't know what the Silver really even encompasses,
but I'd highly recommend shooting for the dev version.
-George
Chris Ridd
On 25 Jan 2012, at 18:54, ylluminate wrote:
> To answer the questions from before:
> `zpool upgrade -v`:
> This system is currently running ZFS pool version 28.
That sounds like it predates the feature-based "versioning" that is now in Illumos.
Chris
John Ruschmeyer
I keep thinking there is a marketing failure here. ZFS is one of those technologies which is really of interest to informed enthusiasts and power users. The problem is, though, is what I see here- the ones who know enough to want ZFS are the same ones to be turned off by the limitations of Zevo silver.
So, what is there for the average user to compel them to use any ZFS, especially Zevo Silver?
Final thought- glad to see the price break on Silver, but the limitation make it feel more like what should be a free product which is easily upgradeable to a more fully functioning Gold.
Jr