Does zfs-fuse track illumos?

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Stefan Lasiewski

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Mar 30, 2012, 4:43:06 PM3/30/12
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I've been reading up on the changes to the ZFS project formerly maintained at http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/ .

It appears that most groups, such as zfsonlinux.org, FreeBSD, Nexenta and OpenIndiana are either tracking or cooperating on illumos.org .

Is zfs-fuse also tracking the illumos code base?

Thank you,

-= Stefan

Emmanuel Anne

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Mar 30, 2012, 6:21:38 PM3/30/12
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No. Volunteer ?

2012/3/30 Stefan Lasiewski <lasi...@gmail.com>

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Stefan Lasiewski

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Apr 9, 2012, 7:47:34 PM4/9/12
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If zfs-fuse does not track ZFS from illumos, then what does zfs-fuse use as the upstream source?

Does this project plan to track the Oracle ZFS source if Oracle ever releases updates to ZFS in the future?

I ask, because there appears to be a lot of development around the open source ZFS hosted at illumos.org , while Oracle ZFS development is closed to outsiders.

-= Stefan


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No. Volunteer ?

2012/3/30 Stefan Lasiewski <lasiewski@....>

Emmanuel Anne

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Apr 10, 2012, 6:25:07 AM4/10/12
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I think we'll just stop here, at least I'll do. My latest updates (pool 26, faster snapshots deletion) never got to the "stable" version, and we are simply not enough people working on it right now. Plus the latest changes are less interesting for fuse (encryption, bah you can do that by a few different ways without adding any code).
Plus it's complex.
Plus there are alternatives now (zol, and btrfs continues to improve).
It seems like a good time to stop, zfs-fuse is good enough for me, and in the beginning I just planned to do a few patches to improve a few things, it was way before deciding to integrate the latest opensolaris patches... !
So if someone wants to take it from here, he's welcome, if not it will probably stop here (just maintenance work if we find stuff which can be improved without too much work).

2012/4/10 Stefan Lasiewski <lasi...@gmail.com>

Stefan Lasiewski

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Apr 10, 2012, 2:48:29 PM4/10/12
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Well in that case, thank you everyone for your hard work. zfs-fuse was instrumental in making ZFS visible to Linux users.

I know that BTRFS is discussed a lot, but I want to point out that ZFS outside of Oracle seems to be very active.

If you interested in other ZFS projects, I know that http://zfsonlinux.org/ is looking for people who are knowledgeable in both ZFS and Linux. I am tracking zfsonlinux.org, and the project is pretty active, and I suspect they will release version 0.60 real soon now. They have packages for RedHat/CentOS/SL and a PPA for Ubuntu.

Also, illmos.org is an opensource collaboration between major ZFS players, including Nexenta and OpenIndiana (A replacement for OpenSolaris). I read that they are looking for people to help. The following video is a fascinating summary of the reasons behind illumos.org, and is well worth a watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zRN7XLCRhc

-= Stefan


On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:25:07 AM UTC-7, Emmanuel Anne wrote:
I think we'll just stop here, at least I'll do. My latest updates (pool 26, faster snapshots deletion) never got to the "stable" version, and we are simply not enough people working on it right now. Plus the latest changes are less interesting for fuse (encryption, bah you can do that by a few different ways without adding any code).
Plus it's complex.
Plus there are alternatives now (zol, and btrfs continues to improve).
It seems like a good time to stop, zfs-fuse is good enough for me, and in the beginning I just planned to do a few patches to improve a few things, it was way before deciding to integrate the latest opensolaris patches... !
So if someone wants to take it from here, he's welcome, if not it will probably stop here (just maintenance work if we find stuff which can be improved without too much work).

2012/4/10 Stefan Lasiewski <lasiewski@...>

If zfs-fuse does not track ZFS from illumos, then what does zfs-fuse use as the upstream source?

Does this project plan to track the Oracle ZFS source if Oracle ever releases updates to ZFS in the future?

I ask, because there appears to be a lot of development around the open source ZFS hosted at illumos.org , while Oracle ZFS development is closed to outsiders.

-= Stefan


On Friday, March 30, 2012 3:21:38 PM UTC-7, Emmanuel Anne wrote:
No. Volunteer ?

2012/3/30 Stefan Lasiewski <lasiewski@....>

I've been reading up on the changes to the ZFS project formerly maintained at http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+zfs/ .

It appears that most groups, such as zfsonlinux.org, FreeBSD, Nexenta and OpenIndiana are either tracking or cooperating on illumos.org .

Is zfs-fuse also tracking the illumos code base?

Thank you,

-= Stefan

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Durval Menezes

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Jun 16, 2012, 9:37:31 PM6/16/12
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Hi Emmanuel, folks,

On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:48:29 PM UTC-3, Stefan Lasiewski wrote:
Well in that case, thank you everyone for your hard work. zfs-fuse was instrumental in making ZFS visible to Linux users.

I want to second that "thank you". I''ve been using ZFS-FUSE for almost 4 years now, and during all that time (except last week, when a pool disappeared but was quickly and completely recovered) it never gave me any trouble at all: just steady, reliable performance (even if it was not particularly fast, but I understand that in FUSE-land this comes with the territory). 

Here's to hoping that the ZFS-On-Linux project picks up the slack and produces ASAP a release as good and stable as ZFS-FUSE has been all these years... After some testing here, I'm really not keen on BTRFS, and I bet it will be at least many months (and more probably a couple of years) before it's really safe to use in production. 

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Emmanuel Anne

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Jun 17, 2012, 3:28:37 AM6/17/12
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Just a quick note on btrfs to say I am very happy with their acceleration in kernel 3.4.x, really very noticable for me, it was worth re-creating some of the partitions here. Except that no data loss to report, but it's sure to be less easy to use that zfs, there are still much less functions in it, and I keep a zfs-fuse partition for dedup.

2012/6/17 Durval Menezes <durval....@gmail.com>
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