السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام i m unable to play audio recitation after updating to 0.6.6 version. do i need to update any file or folder? i m using windows xp professional. plz help اللہ حافذ
> السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > i m unable to play audio recitation after updating to 0.6.6 version. > do i need to update any file or folder? > i m using windows xp professional. > plz help > اللہ حافذ
> السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > sorry i was mistaken, actually i m unable to play only سورہ المزمل > ( surah no 73) rest are playing fine.
> On Oct 11, 5:46 am, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > > i m unable to play audio recitation after updating to 0.6.6 version. > > do i need to update any file or folder? > > i m using windows xp professional. > > plz help > > اللہ حافذ
السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام i m using minshawi's offline. i have checked the all (20 nos) mp3 of 73rd Surah Al-Muzammil, these r playing fine in all media players.
On Oct 11, 12:44 pm, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Imran, which recitation you are using? Minshawi's online?
> MP3 files may have problems. I'll check them later. Anyone can confirm > this problem? I have no audio support to check it by now.
> On 10/11/07, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > > sorry i was mistaken, actually i m unable to play only سورہ المزمل > > ( surah no 73) rest are playing fine.
> > On Oct 11, 5:46 am, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > > > i m unable to play audio recitation after updating to 0.6.6 version. > > > do i need to update any file or folder? > > > i m using windows xp professional. > > > plz help > > > اللہ حافذ
Salaam & Eid Mubarak Brothers & Sisters Let me start by saying thank you and may Allah bless and reward you for providing such a wonderful tool. It has all functionality a new muslim could hope for, to learn the noble Qur'an. I'm using Zekr on a Mac and I'm unable to play audio. I haven't been able at all on the Mac with either the new version or the previous one. I have tried both online and offline (downloaded the MP3's and followed the instructions on the wiki). The MP3's play fine in a standalone media player btw. Perhaps I'm missing something? Wasalaam
On Oct 11, 9:44 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Imran, which recitation you are using? Minshawi's online?
> MP3 files may have problems. I'll check them later. Anyone can confirm > this problem? I have no audio support to check it by now.
> On 10/11/07, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > > sorry i was mistaken, actually i m unable to play only سورہ المزمل > > ( surah no 73) rest are playing fine.
> > On Oct 11, 5:46 am, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > السلام و علیکم برادران اسلام > > > i m unable to play audio recitation after updating to 0.6.6 version. > > > do i need to update any file or folder? > > > i m using windows xp professional. > > > plz help > > > اللہ حافذ
> i m using minshawi's offline. i have checked the all (20 nos) mp3 of > 73rd Surah Al-Muzammil, these r playing fine in all media players.
There seems to be no problem. I double checked both online and offline Minshawi recitation. Sura 73 is playing fine using both of them. Anyone elese had this problem with Minshawi recitation?
Are you able to play other suras? Do you have the latest version of Flash player for your Internet Explorer (if using Windows)? It's 9,0,47,0 for now. Check it here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/
> Let me start by saying thank you and may Allah bless and reward you > for providing such a wonderful tool. It has all functionality a new > muslim could hope for, to learn the noble Qur'an.
You are welcome. I'm really happy to here that :)
> I'm using Zekr on a Mac and I'm unable to play audio. I haven't been > able at all on the Mac with either the new version or the previous > one. I have tried both online and offline (downloaded the MP3's and > followed the instructions on the wiki). > The MP3's play fine in a standalone media player btw. > Perhaps I'm missing something? > Wasalaam
As of Zekr 0.6.6, it's possible to use XULRunner as the default browser (e.g. instead of Safari on Mac). I was able to play recitations using XULRunner on Windows, and it's also reported to work on Debian as well.
Salaam Mohsen, I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists after that:
org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Failed to use detected XULRunner: /Library/Frameworks/XUL.framework/Versions/1.8.0.4] org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(Unknown Source) org.eclipse.swt.browser.Mozilla.create(Unknown Source) org.eclipse.swt.browser.Browser.<init>(Unknown Source) net.sf.zekr.ui.QuranForm.makeFrame(QuranForm.java:380) net.sf.zekr.ui.QuranForm.init(QuranForm.java:257) net.sf.zekr.ui.QuranForm.<init>(QuranForm.java:233) net.sf.zekr.ZekrMain.startZekr(ZekrMain.java:52) net.sf.zekr.ZekrMain.main(ZekrMain.java:86)
I hope this gives some further hints as to the cause of the problem.
Wasalaam, Amir
On Oct 12, 4:31 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Let me start by saying thank you and may Allah bless and reward you > > for providing such a wonderful tool. It has all functionality a new > > muslim could hope for, to learn the noble Qur'an.
> You are welcome. I'm really happy to here that :)
> > I'm using Zekr on a Mac and I'm unable to play audio. I haven't been > > able at all on the Mac with either the new version or the previous > > one. I have tried both online and offline (downloaded the MP3's and > > followed the instructions on the wiki). > > The MP3's play fine in a standalone media player btw. > > Perhaps I'm missing something? > > Wasalaam
> As of Zekr 0.6.6, it's possible to use XULRunner as the default > browser (e.g. instead of Safari on Mac). I was able to play > recitations using XULRunner on Windows, and it's also reported to work > on Debian as well.
yes dear i m playing all the rest surah very fine. only 73rd is not playing (all the aya's r not playing) i have the latest flash installed, also if all other r playing well then y not 73rd? strange?
On Oct 12, 7:44 pm, "a...@meeuwsen.bz" <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Salaam Mohsen, > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > after that:
> org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Failed to use detected > XULRunner: /Library/Frameworks/XUL.framework/Versions/1.8.0.4] > org.eclipse.swt.SWT.error(Unknown Source) > org.eclipse.swt.browser.Mozilla.create(Unknown Source) > org.eclipse.swt.browser.Browser.<init>(Unknown Source) > net.sf.zekr.ui.QuranForm.makeFrame(QuranForm.java:380) > net.sf.zekr.ui.QuranForm.init(QuranForm.java:257) > net.sf.zekr.ui.QuranForm.<init>(QuranForm.java:233) > net.sf.zekr.ZekrMain.startZekr(ZekrMain.java:52) > net.sf.zekr.ZekrMain.main(ZekrMain.java:86)
> I hope this gives some further hints as to the cause of the problem.
> Wasalaam, > Amir
> On Oct 12, 4:31 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Salaam,
> > > Salaam & Eid Mubarak Brothers & Sisters
> > Also for you, inshaAllah.
> > > Let me start by saying thank you and may Allah bless and reward you > > > for providing such a wonderful tool. It has all functionality a new > > > muslim could hope for, to learn the noble Qur'an.
> > You are welcome. I'm really happy to here that :)
> > > I'm using Zekr on a Mac and I'm unable to play audio. I haven't been > > > able at all on the Mac with either the new version or the previous > > > one. I have tried both online and offline (downloaded the MP3's and > > > followed the instructions on the wiki). > > > The MP3's play fine in a standalone media player btw. > > > Perhaps I'm missing something? > > > Wasalaam
> > As of Zekr 0.6.6, it's possible to use XULRunner as the default > > browser (e.g. instead of Safari on Mac). I was able to play > > recitations using XULRunner on Windows, and it's also reported to work > > on Debian as well.
Try this and tell if it's still not working (if you are in Windows): Internet Explorer > Tools > Optins > (General Tab) Click Delete Files (Alf+F) > OK.
Then launch Zekr again and see if recitation for sura 73 works. Flash caches MP3s on your IE cache, so once you downloaded a buggy MP3, it doesn't download it again, unless you delete the cache manually
Mohsen.
On 10/13/07, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Are you able to play other suras? > yes dear i m playing all the rest surah very fine. only 73rd is not > playing (all the aya's r not playing) > i have the latest flash installed, also if all other r playing well > then y not 73rd? strange?
> On Oct 12, 7:44 pm, "a...@meeuwsen.bz" <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Salaam Mohsen, > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > after that:
> > I hope this gives some further hints as to the cause of the problem.
> > Wasalaam, > > Amir
> > On Oct 12, 4:31 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Salaam,
> > > > Salaam & Eid Mubarak Brothers & Sisters
> > > Also for you, inshaAllah.
> > > > Let me start by saying thank you and may Allah bless and reward you > > > > for providing such a wonderful tool. It has all functionality a new > > > > muslim could hope for, to learn the noble Qur'an.
> > > You are welcome. I'm really happy to here that :)
> > > > I'm using Zekr on a Mac and I'm unable to play audio. I haven't been > > > > able at all on the Mac with either the new version or the previous > > > > one. I have tried both online and offline (downloaded the MP3's and > > > > followed the instructions on the wiki). > > > > The MP3's play fine in a standalone media player btw. > > > > Perhaps I'm missing something? > > > > Wasalaam
> > > As of Zekr 0.6.6, it's possible to use XULRunner as the default > > > browser (e.g. instead of Safari on Mac). I was able to play > > > recitations using XULRunner on Windows, and it's also reported to work > > > on Debian as well.
> I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > after that:
Salaam Mohsen, I executed all the steps listed and now have the latest version of XULRunner and Java version 1.5.0_07. Zekr now starts but alas still no audio recitation. I hope there is something else we can check/try as it would be helpful having this feature working. In any case thanks for you support so far. Wasalaam
On Oct 13, 10:15 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > after that:
Can you send here screen shots using both Safari and XULRunner as the browser for Zekr?
Also give this a try: 1. Launch Zekr 2. Goto 1:1, chosing Shakir's translation in Mixed layout. 3. Open Safari, and go to http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html. Check if recitation works that way (a screen shot is again appreciated).
Thanks.
On 10/13/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Salaam Mohsen, > I executed all the steps listed and now have the latest version of > XULRunner and Java version 1.5.0_07. > Zekr now starts but alas still no audio recitation. > I hope there is something else we can check/try as it would be helpful > having this feature working. In any case thanks for you support so > far. > Wasalaam
> On Oct 13, 10:15 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Salaam,
> > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > > after that:
> Can you send here screen shots using both Safari and XULRunner as the > browser for Zekr?
> Also give this a try: > 1. Launch Zekr > 2. Goto 1:1, chosing Shakir's translation in Mixed layout. > 3. Open Safari, and go tohttp://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html. Check if recitation > works that way (a screen shot is again appreciated).
> Thanks.
> On 10/13/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Salaam Mohsen, > > I executed all the steps listed and now have the latest version of > > XULRunner and Java version 1.5.0_07. > > Zekr now starts but alas still no audio recitation. > > I hope there is something else we can check/try as it would be helpful > > having this feature working. In any case thanks for you support so > > far. > > Wasalaam
> > On Oct 13, 10:15 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Salaam,
> > > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > > > after that:
>Try this and tell if it's still not working (if you are in Windows): >Internet Explorer > Tools > Optins > (General Tab) Click Delete Files >(Alf+F) > OK.
Salam and EID Mubarak i triedbut still the same...i even deleted the files and re-pasted these but no use :( thanx
On Oct 13, 12:54 pm, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Try this and tell if it's still not working (if you are in Windows): > Internet Explorer > Tools > Optins > (General Tab) Click Delete Files > (Alf+F) > OK.
> Then launch Zekr again and see if recitation for sura 73 works. Flash > caches MP3s on your IE cache, so once you downloaded a buggy MP3, it > doesn't download it again, unless you delete the cache manually
> Mohsen.
> On 10/13/07, Imran Malik <imranmalik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >Are you able to play other suras? > > yes dear i m playing all the rest surah very fine. only 73rd is not > > playing (all the aya's r not playing) > > i have the latest flash installed, also if all other r playing well > > then y not 73rd? strange?
> > On Oct 12, 7:44 pm, "a...@meeuwsen.bz" <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Salaam Mohsen, > > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > > after that:
> > > I hope this gives some further hints as to the cause of the problem.
> > > Wasalaam, > > > Amir
> > > On Oct 12, 4:31 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Salaam,
> > > > > Salaam & Eid Mubarak Brothers & Sisters
> > > > Also for you, inshaAllah.
> > > > > Let me start by saying thank you and may Allah bless and reward you > > > > > for providing such a wonderful tool. It has all functionality a new > > > > > muslim could hope for, to learn the noble Qur'an.
> > > > You are welcome. I'm really happy to here that :)
> > > > > I'm using Zekr on a Mac and I'm unable to play audio. I haven't been > > > > > able at all on the Mac with either the new version or the previous > > > > > one. I have tried both online and offline (downloaded the MP3's and > > > > > followed the instructions on the wiki). > > > > > The MP3's play fine in a standalone media player btw. > > > > > Perhaps I'm missing something? > > > > > Wasalaam
> > > > As of Zekr 0.6.6, it's possible to use XULRunner as the default > > > > browser (e.g. instead of Safari on Mac). I was able to play > > > > recitations using XULRunner on Windows, and it's also reported to work > > > > on Debian as well.
> Salaam once again :-) > Ok tried that, but no luck, mailing the screenshots to you seperately. > Wasalaam, > Amir
> On Oct 13, 9:18 pm, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Salaam,
> > Can you send here screen shots using both Safari and XULRunner as the > > browser for Zekr?
> > Also give this a try: > > 1. Launch Zekr > > 2. Goto 1:1, chosing Shakir's translation in Mixed layout. > > 3. Open Safari, and go tohttp://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html. Check if recitation > > works that way (a screen shot is again appreciated).
> > Thanks.
> > On 10/13/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Salaam Mohsen, > > > I executed all the steps listed and now have the latest version of > > > XULRunner and Java version 1.5.0_07. > > > Zekr now starts but alas still no audio recitation. > > > I hope there is something else we can check/try as it would be helpful > > > having this feature working. In any case thanks for you support so > > > far. > > > Wasalaam
> > > On Oct 13, 10:15 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Salaam,
> > > > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > > > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > > > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > > > > after that:
> Ok... I realized I can't tell what your email address is...
> So trying this way: > 1. screenshot of Zekr ; <a title="Zekr Screenshot" href="http:// > www.flickr.com/photos/93967075@N00/1563351620/"><img src="http:// > static.flickr.com/2207/1563351620_7356ee9388_m.jpg" border="0" /></a> > 2. screenshot of Safari ; <a title="Safari Screenshot" href="http:// > www.flickr.com/photos/93967075@N00/1562473245/"><img src="http:// > static.flickr.com/2181/1562473245_7ad00bc778_m.jpg" border="0" /></a>
> Hope the above works...
> Wasalaam
> On Oct 14, 12:23 am, "a...@meeuwsen.bz" <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Salaam once again :-) > > Ok tried that, but no luck, mailing the screenshots to you seperately. > > Wasalaam, > > Amir
> > On Oct 13, 9:18 pm, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Salaam,
> > > Can you send here screen shots using both Safari and XULRunner as the > > > browser for Zekr?
> > > Also give this a try: > > > 1. Launch Zekr > > > 2. Goto 1:1, chosing Shakir's translation in Mixed layout. > > > 3. Open Safari, and go tohttp://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html. Check if recitation > > > works that way (a screen shot is again appreciated).
> > > Thanks.
> > > On 10/13/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Salaam Mohsen, > > > > I executed all the steps listed and now have the latest version of > > > > XULRunner and Java version 1.5.0_07. > > > > Zekr now starts but alas still no audio recitation. > > > > I hope there is something else we can check/try as it would be helpful > > > > having this feature working. In any case thanks for you support so > > > > far. > > > > Wasalaam
> > > > On Oct 13, 10:15 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Salaam,
> > > > > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > > > > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > > > > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > > > > > after that:
Salaam Mohsen, Thanks for your patience :-) I suppose in the end this would also help out other Mac users (assuming I'm not the only one with this problem).
Ok, I tried the http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html link in Firefox and indeed the flashplayer appeared on the page (although switching back n forth a few times I noticed some problems with redrawing the controls back on the screen, but that's prolly a flash issue on Mac). Next I tried was opening http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=jw_mp3_player with Safari. Low n behold, the player appeared on that page and I was able to play the music. So it seems that flash is definitely working in Safari, except for some reason not on the page served by http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html... Doesn't seem logical. 2 things puzzle me: 1. how come Safari shows the flashplayer on that one page but not the one served by the internal webserver Zekr uses? 2. how come firefox can display the flashplayer but Zekr (using XULRunner, which as I understand it is a Mozilla app too) doesn't?
1. leads me too believe that Safari interprets the HTML or rather the javascripts that 'generate' the flashplayer on the page incorrectly. Maybe cuz the function that calls it is in a seperate .js file?? or it has a problem with the nr of nested levels of javascript functions?? 2. this boggles me and leads me to believe XULRunner is: a) not really being used b) interprets javascript differently then firefox does and also not 'compatible' with the Zekr scripts.
Anyway just guessing, hope it makes more sense to you :-)
Thanks and InshAllah we'll find a way to make it work. Let me know what else I can do/test. Just f.y.i, I have the Apple supplied developer tools installed on my Mac as well in case you need more thorough testing done (since as you mentioned you don't have access to a Mac).
Allah Hafez & wasalaam, Amir
On Oct 14, 5:50 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Oct 14, 12:23 am, "a...@meeuwsen.bz" <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > Salaam once again :-) > > > Ok tried that, but no luck, mailing the screenshots to you seperately. > > > Wasalaam, > > > Amir
> > > On Oct 13, 9:18 pm, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Salaam,
> > > > Can you send here screen shots using both Safari and XULRunner as the > > > > browser for Zekr?
> > > > Also give this a try: > > > > 1. Launch Zekr > > > > 2. Goto 1:1, chosing Shakir's translation in Mixed layout. > > > > 3. Open Safari, and go tohttp://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html. Check if recitation > > > > works that way (a screen shot is again appreciated).
> > > > Thanks.
> > > > On 10/13/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Salaam Mohsen, > > > > > I executed all the steps listed and now have the latest version of > > > > > XULRunner and Java version 1.5.0_07. > > > > > Zekr now starts but alas still no audio recitation. > > > > > I hope there is something else we can check/try as it would be helpful > > > > > having this feature working. In any case thanks for you support so > > > > > far. > > > > > Wasalaam
> > > > > > > I installed the XULRunner, the latest Flash (works in Mozilla) and > > > > > > > enabed the mozillabrowser in config.properties. Unfortunately that > > > > > > > didn't work on my system. I got the following error and Zekr exists > > > > > > > after that:
> Thanks for your patience :-) I suppose in the end this would also help > out other Mac users (assuming I'm not the only one with this problem).
Me too!
> Ok, I tried the http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html link > in Firefox and indeed the flashplayer appeared on the page (although > switching back n forth a few times I noticed some problems with > redrawing the controls back on the screen, but that's prolly a flash > issue on Mac). > Next I tried was opening http://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=jw_mp3_player > with Safari. Low n behold, the player appeared on that page and I was > able to play the music. So it seems that flash is definitely working > in Safari, except for some reason not on the page served by > http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html... > Doesn't seem logical. 2 things puzzle me: > 1. how come Safari shows the flashplayer on that one page but not the > one served by the internal webserver Zekr uses?
The only reasonable difference is the JS library used to dynamically load flash on the page. That website uses swfobject, while Zekr uses ufo which although should act similar, but are actually different. Most notably, swfobject uses <embed> tag (deprecated in favor of the <object> tag), while ufo inserts <object> tags to embed flash objects.
The former is modified player.js to work with SWFObject instead of UFO. The latter is actually SWFObject, but renamed to ufo.js for compatibility.
If Safari problem is about the use of <object> element, this should be resolved, inshaAllah.
> 2. how come firefox can display the flashplayer but Zekr (using > XULRunner, which as I understand it is a Mozilla app too) doesn't?
I don't know exactly, but this should not be strange because XULRunner might not see plugin folder of Firefox. Just Google if this is possible to have flash work on XULRunner... This is possible on my Windows machine.
> 1. leads me too believe that Safari interprets the HTML or rather the > javascripts that 'generate' the flashplayer on the page incorrectly. > Maybe cuz the function that calls it is in a seperate .js file?? or it > has a problem with the nr of nested levels of javascript functions?? > 2. this boggles me and leads me to believe XULRunner is: > a) not really being used > b) interprets javascript differently then firefox does and also > not 'compatible' with the Zekr scripts.
It's used actually. You can see the difference in text rendering (see small alef rendering problem in two screenshots you sent). B is also not correct, since their JavaScript engine is the same. The problem is plugin installation, which is not detected by XULRunner. See, XULRunner is still not a production release. It's yet in it's development stage.
> Thanks and InshAllah we'll find a way to make it work. Let me know > what else I can do/test. Just f.y.i, I have the Apple supplied > developer tools installed on my Mac as well in case you need more > thorough testing done (since as you mentioned you don't have access to > a Mac).
Can you investigate how to solve the rendering problem with small alef characters on Mac (for example see 1:3, the word " الرَّحْمٰنِ " is rendered incorrectly with the font being used in your screenshot). I think this can be solved by using another Arabic-compatible font (Tools > Options > View > Theme settings > quran_fontName). Did you tried Scheherazade?
Salaam Mohsen, We've solved the 'mystery' Alhamdulilah :D
I downloaded and installed the new .js files. They did not make a difference initially. Nor for XULRunner (still using the mozilla.browser =true setting) nor for Safari (using the localhost link from earlier). So it doesn't seems related to the <object> element.
I downloaded the WebRunner 0.7 Application for Mac (which is a packaged XULRunner) version shows; rv:1.9a9pre Gecko/2007092308. I ran it with the http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html uri parameter and indeed, the flashplayer showed! Note tho that it did not display the Arabic font correctly (same problem as Safari). This was promising so I continued my quest and I finally figured out what was meant in that other link to a google groups article about the flash plugin not working on XULRunner on the Mac. There is a plugin folder in the /Library/frameworks/xul.framework directory and I copied the flash plugin in there and that did it! So it now works cept for that strange screen redraw issue (where the buttons don't show fully). Conclusion; your analysis was right about XULRunner. The missing link was how to get XULRunner to recognize and use the flashplugin... Alhamdulilah :-)
I have also included another screenshot showing both Safari n Zekr. You can see the Zekr renders the Arabic font correctly but Safari for some reason doesn't, no matter what font or theme I use (tried several, sherezade,... http://zekr.googlegroups.com/web/amir_m-screendump1.png?gda=s4SmbEcAA...
Wasalaam
On Oct 15, 10:29 pm, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for your patience :-) I suppose in the end this would also help > > out other Mac users (assuming I'm not the only one with this problem).
> Me too!
> > Ok, I tried thehttp://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html link > > in Firefox and indeed the flashplayer appeared on the page (although > > switching back n forth a few times I noticed some problems with > > redrawing the controls back on the screen, but that's prolly a flash > > issue on Mac). > > Next I tried was openinghttp://www.jeroenwijering.com/?item=jw_mp3_player > > with Safari. Low n behold, the player appeared on that page and I was > > able to play the music. So it seems that flash is definitely working > > in Safari, except for some reason not on the page served by > >http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html... > > Doesn't seem logical. 2 things puzzle me: > > 1. how come Safari shows the flashplayer on that one page but not the > > one served by the internal webserver Zekr uses?
> The only reasonable difference is the JS library used to dynamically > load flash on the page. That website uses swfobject, while Zekr uses > ufo which although should act similar, but are actually different. > Most notably, swfobject uses <embed> tag (deprecated in favor of the > <object> tag), while ufo inserts <object> tags to embed flash objects.
> The former is modified player.js to work with SWFObject instead of > UFO. The latter is actually SWFObject, but renamed to ufo.js for > compatibility.
> If Safari problem is about the use of <object> element, this should be > resolved, inshaAllah.
> > 2. how come firefox can display the flashplayer but Zekr (using > > XULRunner, which as I understand it is a Mozilla app too) doesn't?
> I don't know exactly, but this should not be strange because XULRunner > might not see plugin folder of Firefox. Just Google if this is > possible to have flash work on XULRunner... This is possible on my > Windows machine.
> > 1. leads me too believe that Safari interprets the HTML or rather the > > javascripts that 'generate' the flashplayer on the page incorrectly. > > Maybe cuz the function that calls it is in a seperate .js file?? or it > > has a problem with the nr of nested levels of javascript functions?? > > 2. this boggles me and leads me to believe XULRunner is: > > a) not really being used > > b) interprets javascript differently then firefox does and also > > not 'compatible' with the Zekr scripts.
> It's used actually. You can see the difference in text rendering (see > small alef rendering problem in two screenshots you sent). B is also > not correct, since their JavaScript engine is the same. The problem is > plugin installation, which is not detected by XULRunner. See, > XULRunner is still not a production release. It's yet in it's > development stage.
> > Thanks and InshAllah we'll find a way to make it work. Let me know > > what else I can do/test. Just f.y.i, I have the Apple supplied > > developer tools installed on my Mac as well in case you need more > > thorough testing done (since as you mentioned you don't have access to > > a Mac).
> Can you investigate how to solve the rendering problem with small alef > characters on Mac (for example see 1:3, the word " الرَّحْمٰنِ " is > rendered incorrectly with the font being used in your screenshot). I > think this can be solved by using another Arabic-compatible font > (Tools > Options > View > Theme settings > quran_fontName). Did you > tried Scheherazade?
> I downloaded and installed the new .js files. They did not make a > difference initially. Nor for XULRunner (still using the > mozilla.browser =true setting) nor for Safari (using the localhost > link from earlier). > So it doesn't seems related to the <object> element.
> I downloaded the WebRunner 0.7 Application for Mac (which is a > packaged XULRunner) version shows; rv:1.9a9pre Gecko/2007092308. I > ran it with the http://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html uri > parameter and indeed, the flashplayer showed! Note tho that it did not > display the Arabic font correctly (same problem as Safari). > This was promising so I continued my quest and I finally figured out > what was meant in that other link to a google groups article about the > flash plugin not working on XULRunner on the Mac. There is a plugin > folder in the /Library/frameworks/xul.framework directory and I copied > the flash plugin in there and that did it! So it now works cept for > that strange screen redraw issue (where the buttons don't show > fully).
Linux has the same thing with plugin folder of XULRunner, and I don't know why Windows just works perfectly without any need for those configuration :)
Regarding font issue, I've heard that OSX has problems with rendering Arabic text using OpenType fonts. Can you use other kind of fonts like XW Zar, XB Zar, Geeza Pro or other non-OT fonts available there.
> Conclusion; your analysis was right about XULRunner. The missing link > was how to get XULRunner to recognize and use the flashplugin... > Alhamdulilah :-)
> I have also included another screenshot showing both Safari n Zekr. > You can see the Zekr renders the Arabic font correctly but Safari for > some reason doesn't, no matter what font or theme I use (tried > several, sherezade,... > http://zekr.googlegroups.com/web/amir_m-screendump1.png?gda=s4SmbEcAA...
> Wasalaam
Can you please add these notes to Mac installation manual here (if you find some free time): http://siahe.com/zekr/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Mac There seems to be tricks for having XULRunner, installing flash player, and having XULRunner's flash work in Zekr...
Best, Mohsen.
P.S. I'll be out on a trip until Oct. 21, so cannot answer any email here till then.
Salaam Mohsen, I will write up the notes for the Mac Install in the coming days InshAllah. With regards to the font issue, I have a whole number of them listed currently. Is it just the first one in that line (seperated by comma's) that it uses? I couldn't tell easily. I did try the Geeza Pro font also (put that as first in the line that shows the multiple font, but this didn't not change anything. So maybe I need to have only one font there at a time? Wasalaam, Amir
On Oct 16, 5:58 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I downloaded and installed the new .js files. They did not make a > > difference initially. Nor for XULRunner (still using the > > mozilla.browser =true setting) nor for Safari (using the localhost > > link from earlier). > > So it doesn't seems related to the <object> element.
> > I downloaded the WebRunner 0.7 Application for Mac (which is a > > packaged XULRunner) version shows; rv:1.9a9pre Gecko/2007092308. I > > ran it with thehttp://127.0.0.1:8920/[cache]/mixed/1_shakir.html uri > > parameter and indeed, the flashplayer showed! Note tho that it did not > > display the Arabic font correctly (same problem as Safari). > > This was promising so I continued my quest and I finally figured out > > what was meant in that other link to a google groups article about the > > flash plugin not working on XULRunner on the Mac. There is a plugin > > folder in the /Library/frameworks/xul.framework directory and I copied > > the flash plugin in there and that did it! So it now works cept for > > that strange screen redraw issue (where the buttons don't show > > fully).
> Linux has the same thing with plugin folder of XULRunner, and I don't > know why Windows just works perfectly without any need for those > configuration :)
> Regarding font issue, I've heard that OSX has problems with rendering > Arabic text using OpenType fonts. Can you use other kind of fonts like > XW Zar, XB Zar, Geeza Pro or other non-OT fonts available there.
> > Conclusion; your analysis was right about XULRunner. The missing link > > was how to get XULRunner to recognize and use the flashplugin... > > Alhamdulilah :-)
> > I have also included another screenshot showing both Safari n Zekr. > > You can see the Zekr renders the Arabic font correctly but Safari for > > some reason doesn't, no matter what font or theme I use (tried > > several, sherezade,... > >http://zekr.googlegroups.com/web/amir_m-screendump1.png?gda=s4SmbEcAA...
> > Wasalaam
> Can you please add these notes to Mac installation manual here (if you > find some free time):http://siahe.com/zekr/wiki/index.php?title=Installation#Mac > There seems to be tricks for having XULRunner, installing flash > player, and having XULRunner's flash work in Zekr...
> Best, > Mohsen.
> P.S. > I'll be out on a trip until Oct. 21, so cannot answer any email here till then.
On 10/17/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Salaam Mohsen, > I will write up the notes for the Mac Install in the coming days > InshAllah. > With regards to the font issue, I have a whole number of them listed > currently. Is it just the first one in that line (seperated by > comma's) that it uses?
Yes, the whole line is put as "font-family" CSS property, which accepts a list of font names, selecting the first one available on the system.
> I couldn't tell easily. I did try the Geeza Pro > font also (put that as first in the line that shows the multiple font, > but this didn't not change anything.
No idea. OSX seems to select Geeza Pro when not other fonts in the list were available.
> So maybe I need to have only one font there at a time?
No problem with a list. The first one (if available) is selected.
Salaam, I'm very happy to see another mac user is helping to make mac version more on par with other versions. Unfortunately current version of Geeza Pro can not place vowels in the middle of ligatures properly and does not have some very important glyphs such as superscript Alef. I don't know whether Leopard version is improved in this regard or not. Instead you can install and use Scheherazade-AAT or XB Zar font which does not have those problems: http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/render_download.php?site_id=nrsi&f... http://irmug.org/portal/index.php?name=Downloads&req=getit&lid=30 --- I do not suggest using XUL Runner on mac because of its big size and some Gecko engine problems on Mac OS X, specially regarding Persian & Arabic text.(It has improved a lot in the latest releases, but I don't think all problems are solved yet.) So, what should we do?! - If you are using Tiger: You can download & install Safari 3 beta: http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ I suggest you to wait until October 26, hopefully Safari 3 final will also be released for Tiger. - If you are using Leopard you should have recitation out of the box. While the recitation works with Safari 3, it has still some redraw issues on both Firefox & Safari 3. If it is possible to use Quicktime plugin instead, it will be far better for mac version. Sorry for my bad English! Good Luck
On Oct 19, 7:48 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/17/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Salaam Mohsen, > > I will write up the notes for the Mac Install in the coming days > > InshAllah. > > With regards to the font issue, I have a whole number of them listed > > currently. Is it just the first one in that line (seperated by > > comma's) that it uses?
> Yes, the whole line is put as "font-family" CSS property, which > accepts a list of font names, selecting the first one available on the > system.
> > I couldn't tell easily. I did try the Geeza Pro > > font also (put that as first in the line that shows the multiple font, > > but this didn't not change anything.
> No idea. OSX seems to select Geeza Pro when not other fonts in the > list were available.
> > So maybe I need to have only one font there at a time?
> No problem with a list. The first one (if available) is selected.
Salaam, I hope more mac users will join me :-) There appear to be several problems still. 1. the audio control buttons do not show correctly 2. I've now notice that the audio control does not always appear on subsequent loads of Zekr (meaning if I had it open previously, closed it and then open it again. I am not really sure yet as to what sequence of actions reproduces this problem 3. the Geeza Pro font (and other fonts, like Baghdad) works fine in XULRunner. No problems with rendering at all. It seems Safari (or its engine rather) is at fault here.
I agree with you that we shouldn't have to install additional browsers (that take up space), but currently it seems the price we have to pay to get all features working. With that I mean not only the fonts, but also the audio recitation.
I will follow-up on your advise to try the new Safari. Altho I must admit that my experiences with it so far have not been entirely positive, in fact the beta I tried about 2 months ago broke stuff on my mac, so I uninstalled it. Perhaps the newer beta is more stable and 'plays nice' with other applications. Anyway I'll try it and report my findings.
Wasalaam
On Oct 21, 3:40 pm, "raste...@gmail.com" <raste...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Salaam, > I'm very happy to see another mac user is helping to make mac version > more on par with other versions. > Unfortunately current version of Geeza Pro can not place vowels in the > middle of ligatures properly and does not have some very important > glyphs such as superscript Alef. I don't know whether Leopard version > is improved in this regard or not. > Instead you can install and use Scheherazade-AAT or XB Zar font which > does not have those problems:http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/render_download.php?site_id=nrsi&f... > --- > I do not suggest using XUL Runner on mac because of its big size and > some Gecko engine problems on Mac OS X, specially regarding Persian & > Arabic text.(It has improved a lot in the latest releases, but I don't > think all problems are solved yet.) > So, what should we do?! > - If you are using Tiger: > You can download & install Safari 3 beta:http://www.apple.com/safari/download/ > I suggest you to wait until October 26, hopefully Safari 3 final will > also be released for Tiger. > - If you are using Leopard you should have recitation out of the box. > While the recitation works with Safari 3, it has still some redraw > issues on both Firefox & Safari 3. If it is possible to use Quicktime > plugin instead, it will be far better for mac version. > Sorry for my bad English! > Good Luck
> On Oct 19, 7:48 am, "Mohsen Saboorian" <mohs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10/17/07, a...@meeuwsen.bz <serge.meeuw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Salaam Mohsen, > > > I will write up the notes for the Mac Install in the coming days > > > InshAllah. > > > With regards to the font issue, I have a whole number of them listed > > > currently. Is it just the first one in that line (seperated by > > > comma's) that it uses?
> > Yes, the whole line is put as "font-family" CSS property, which > > accepts a list of font names, selecting the first one available on the > > system.
> > > I couldn't tell easily. I did try the Geeza Pro > > > font also (put that as first in the line that shows the multiple font, > > > but this didn't not change anything.
> > No idea. OSX seems to select Geeza Pro when not other fonts in the > > list were available.
> > > So maybe I need to have only one font there at a time?
> > No problem with a list. The first one (if available) is selected.
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