Here we gooooooo:
You certainly seem enamored by them.
Bernie
Except you aren't capable of ending a thing.....you just can't let go.
Besides, how would you know anything about NKY and me since we're filtered?
You are so amusing! LOL!
Bernie
I don't think you get it....it doesn't matter. One poster or two, you're
inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.
Bernie
Even if he's cloning himself?
Bernie
He has no reason for many of the things he does but he does them. ;)
Bernie
And he cares so much about everything we do! LMAO!
Bernie
Nah, it means you're a juvenile asshole. Get over yourself. No one cares who
or what you are. Beyond being a mindless diversion on a mesage board, you're
of no consequence to any of us.
Bernie
Typical twisting and taking completely out of context by you. What an ass.
God help any children may you father.
Bernie
Got the new James Patterson novel today. Can't wait to read it. Ever hear of
him, BM? He writes this great best selling series in the first person about a
black detective, Alex Cross.
Bernie
You know, I don't automatically associate "what's up wif dat" with any
particular color but it just shows how NKY has your number and knows how to
push your buttons. You're your own worst enemy. (knowing he'll eventually read
this or have it sent to him by one of those lurker! LMAO)
Bernie
LOL......those damn unpredictable filters!
Bernie
Filters not working?
Bernie
He obviously can't control himself when he responds to one of my posts. <g>
Bernie
yes, that's why no one differentiates them for yours.
Bernie
I think it's his filter colander.
Bernie
You really make such a fool of yourself.
Bernie
You have a problem letting go, don't you? Seek help.
Bernie
If you are sincere in your desire to have discussions, your
response is needed. No one is going to agree with you 100% of the time no
matter who you are.
Bernie
I don't believe anyone else wrote it.
Bernie
WTF? Seems like BM is the one doing all the ranting and screaming.
Bernie
Some loyal fan of his allegedly emails him our posts! Is that a hoot or what?
Some friend. If you told me you couldn't stand to read someone's posts, I
wouldn't take the trouble to email them to you! Bwahahahahaaha!
Bernie
He gets very annoyed with the concept of message board personas. And yes, he
is quite ignorant of the law among other things.
Bernie
Oh good, send it to me. I'm quite interested.
Bernie
Here we gooooooo:
Filters not working?
Bernie
Have you noticed that what Bernie writes isn't necessarily a
glowing picture of you, BM? As far as writing about you, well, Bernie sure hit
the nail on the head many times, it seems, because on this board alone, I've
seen that you flip out for NO REASON. I've heard that Bernie is a very nice
person, so based upon what I've heard and seen here my money's on Bernie having
your number. I guess that's why you're flipping out AGAIN.
--Debbie
Here we gooooooo:
Filters not working?
Bernie
Thanks for your comments and insight, Debbie. If we could get a few more
people posting on here, it would be really nice and there might even be some
more interesting topics than there have been of late.
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Your observation of BOTH is correct. Poor ol' bm/bm2/Im3, is such awierdo, he
makes Michael Jackson look sane.
Now, THAT is scary! LOL!
--Debbie
Thanks for your comments and insight, Debbie. If we could get a few more
people posting on here, it would be really nice and there might even be some
more interesting topics than there have been of late.
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
I'm working on it, Bernie! Some people don't like the format of this board,
but I don't think it's bad at all. It's not as slow as some boards, so I have
no problem with it.
(BTW, I've read many of your comments on the suicide issue and thought you were
right on.)
--Debbie
Here we gooooooo:
Filters not working?
Bernie
Oh, dear Debbie....... have YOU noticed that I haven't written a SINGLE word to
Bernie in the last month, but she seems obsessed with me?? I don't know what
you consider "flipping out," but you are certainly entitled to your opinion.
You've HEARD that Bernie is a very nice person. That's sweet. However, I
would hate to see you lose your money, so don't count on Bernie "having my
number!" You see, I have HER number. She is what you would call a hypocrite.
I see that you think that my reposting Bernie's NUMEROUS posts to and about me
as "flipping out!" That's funny, Debbie. If reposting Bernie's absurd posts
about me is "flipping out," just think of what you can call MAKING all of those
posts about me!
Bernie is obviously insanely obsessed!
No, what is scary is that YOU have appeared out of nowhere immediately siding
with a couple of bigots! LOL!
No, what is scary is that YOU have appeared out of nowhere immediately siding
with a couple of bigots! LOL!
<bm/bm2/Im3>
Awwww...didn't she ask your permission to enter.....hehehe. She has learned
quicly of your ignorance.
LOL....now this is really typical of the board LIAR. It hasn't been a month,
and you post about her and others on here under your 2nd and 3rd names. C'mon
bm, this is so lame, even for you. Now, get wif da program.
LMAO
HAVE FUN ONLINE :))
Your observation of BOTH is correct. Poor ol' bm/bm2/Im3, is such awierdo, he
makes Michael Jackson look sane.
Now, THAT is scary! LOL!
--Debbie
No, what is scary is that YOU have appeared out of nowhere immediately siding
with a couple of bigots! LOL!
Two questions, are you male or female, and are you African American? I ask the
second question based upon what you've posted in the past.
LMAO!!! Now, you wanna hear a true story? My daughter was standing
behind a black teenager in the drug store while waiting to get her
prescription. The pharmacist asks the black girl, (who was picking up her
brother's medicine), "What is your brother's birthday?" She answers, "Ahno,
March sumpin'. He a Pisces." Imagine the look on the pharmacist's face?
Two questions, are you male or female, and are you African American? I ask the
second question based upon what you've posted in the past.
(Amuseme)
Does it matter? You've already got me all sized up, don't you?
Does it matter? You've already got me all sized up, don't you? <bm/bm2/Im3>
LOL....he claims to be male, however he lusts after every male on the board. He
claims to be black, but I have never encountered a black person that was so
screwed up. He seems to be trying too hard to prove that he is black. And he
has lied so many times on these boards, that we doubt everything he says.
NKY
Still hateful as ever, huh? BTW, I don't think you quite thought through this
statement: "but I have never encountered a black person that was so
screwed up." ROFLMAO!!!
Oh, he's black. ;)
SWOOSH!!!!!!!!
(The LAST sound you hear, before you come in "second place.")
Two questions, are you male or female, and are you African American? I ask the
second question based upon what you've posted in the past.
(Amuseme)
Does it matter? You've already got me all sized up, don't you? <bm/bm2/Im3>
LOL....he claims to be male, however he lusts after every male on the board. He
claims to be black, but I have never encountered a black person that was so
screwed up. He seems to be trying too hard to prove that he is black. And he
has lied so many times on these boards, that we doubt everything he says.
Oh, he's black. ;)
DUDE
No, I'm not. :-)
I only wanted to give you the opportunity to answer for yourself, but
you wiggled out of answering.
If I were to venture a guess, I'd say a black female. You sure throw
some good hissy fits (more females tend to do that). However, others say you
are male. So...I must change my assessment: you are a gay black male.
LMFAO!
He lusts after men? Ewwww. What he be doin' to prove he be black? LMFAO!
I only wanted to give you the opportunity to answer for yourself, but
you wiggled out of answering.
If I were to venture a guess, I'd say a black female. You sure throw
some good hissy fits (more females tend to do that). However, others say you
are male. So...I must change my assessment: you are a gay black male.
LMFAO <amuseme>
LOL....damn you are good. his identity changes daily. just like his stories.
<g>
Does it matter? You've already got me all sized up, don't you? <= BM
==============
She's like that. If her friends don't like you, then she follows them and she
won't like you. It's pathetic.
HAVE FUN ONLINE :))
(Amuseme)
And you are yet another of NKY's fake screen names!
(Amuseme aka NKY aka Mirage aka Facade)
Don't you ever get tired of being stupid?
(Amuseme aka NKY aka Mirage aka Facade aka Sexfiend)
You need help, NKY.
Poor NKY. Another persona takes over his body.
===
Actually, she's not a very nice person. She's an angry nasty person. So you
heard wrong.
I can see that you're hung up on BM ...
oh well, it's a typical problem for him.
He's familiar with stalkers.
===
Your observation of BOTH is correct. Poor ol' bm/bm2/Im3, is such awierdo, he
makes Michael Jackson look sane.
==========
I see that you too, are still HUNG up on
BM!
How amazing!
Don't you have a life?
Your observation of BOTH is correct. Poor ol' bm/bm2/Im3, is such awierdo, he
makes Michael Jackson look sane.
Now, THAT is scary! LOL!
--Debbie
No, what is scary is that YOU have appeared out of nowhere immediately siding
with a couple of bigots! LOL!
===
Nah..that's one of their 'friends'..who also has no life.
She's been around for awhile.
=======
What difference does his race or gender make?
Why do you need to know?
This is a messageboard!
And you are yet another of NKY's fake screen names!<bm/bm2/Im3>
Be careful. Your "stupod side" is coming out again. LOL
NKY
Just as YOUR "stupod side" comes out when you say I'm "bm/bm2/Im3" LOL
(Waffles)
It makes a difference to someone who wants to make an ignorant comment.
NKY
You're so consumed with hatred. You're a bigot and a creep.
(Waffles)
This is true. This person just came in out of the blue to attack me. How
endearing!
Now, THAT is scary! LOL!
--Debbie
No, what is scary is that YOU have appeared out of nowhere immediately siding
with a couple of bigots! LOL!
<bm/bm2/Im3>
Awwww...didn't she ask your permission to enter.....hehehe. She has learned
quicly of your ignorance.
(NKY)
No, she has come to join her "fwiends" in attacking the only black on the
board. I'm flattered.
(Waffles)
Figures. They think about me 24/7. I rule Bouncy and his "fwiends!"
It makes a difference to someone who wants to make an ignorant comment.
<bm/bm2/Im3>
It is good to see you finally see yourself as what you really are. That is
progress.<g>
No, she has come to join her "fwiends" in attacking the only black on the
board. I'm flattered.<bm/bm2/Im3>
We don't know if you are the only black on here. You are the only one that
screams that you are black. The more civilized ones just post as a regular
person. If you only knew. hehehe
Usenet sucks from AOHell. I use the Microsoft Outlook Newsreader - it makes
it MUCH easier - there are a lot of tools available to customize how you
read. For example, you can expand and contract the threads, and mark the
threads you want to read so they come up first.
The best thing about it, of course, is there are no netkop wannabe monitors
here.
Margo
How do you know you're the only black? Have you met everybody here in
person?
Margo
Oh good grief. Debbie has been around for years - she is not any of those
people.
Margo
HAAA - Debbie is a Buzzie - some of us have known her a long time.
Margo
No, she's been posting here for quite some time - but you only see what you
want to see.
Margo
Oh good grief. Debbie has been around for years - she is not any of those
people.
Margo
Hell, Margo, any new name that pops up he automatically accuses me. <g> He is
the most paranoid person I have ever seen. Have you noticed that the bm2 name
has not been back for a few days, since he was exposed as bm? He's a hoot, huh?
BTW, I like your style. :)
HAAA - Debbie is a Buzzie - some of us have known her a long time.
Margo
Hehehehe....Now you have done it. You have accused him of being wrong. You will
be headed to the "filter" bin.:::snicker:::
No, she's been posting here for quite some time - but you only see what you
want to see.
Margo
Awww...it just gives him another reason to whine....BOO HOO
Thanks. I put both the names on my buddy list to see if they ever came on
at the same time - that would disprove that he was cloning himself, but I'm
not signed on to AOL enough to get any results. Plus, if the BM2 name has
stopped posting now that the issue has been raised . . . .
Personally I feel that the motivation for someone to pretend to be him and
keep people pissed off is more likely than BM to post from two names - but
who knows for sure.
Margo
Oh I WAS in there. But then somehow I unfiltered myself, so now I am back
in again LOL
Margo
Margo
Yep, I figured I'd let someone else give him a clue. Thanks, Margo. I've read
most of his rants, and they are just that: rants.
--Debbie
I took over Nky's body? Does he know it? LMAO! He might feel a little
uncomfortable when I put on my dress. BWWHHAAA! --Debbie
Does it matter? You've already got me all sized up, don't you? <= BM
==============
She's like that. If her friends don't like you, then she follows them and she
won't like you. It's pathetic.
HAVE FUN ONLINE :))
Stuff it, CuntWebster. None of my friends know this fucknut from
a hole in the wall. I read his rants and whines and came to my own conclusion.
I've also concluded that you are a troll suckass. How's that's for accurate?
Wait...lemme ask one of the real trolls. LMAO!
--Debbie
HAVE FUN ONLINE :))
Oh please! You came to your own conclusions based on your friends' opinions.
You don't have your own mind. You and your friends must put your big skulls
together in order to muster up a piece of a thought.
Attacking Dro for telling the truth is pretty much what your friends are good
for anyway. One thing I can say about Dro is that she has her own mind and
doesn't rely on others to do her thinking.
Now, go and ask Bouncy what you should say next.... ok?
Margo
NKY
It's someone that you begged to help you in your attacks against me. You can't
do it alone. We've all seen that. You MUST have help. Pitiful.
Margo
Oh, shut up.
Margo
(Bouncy licking butthole)
You're disgusting! The bm2 name was YOU! Heck, you are the paranoid one! I'm
bm2, bm AND Im3 in YOUR opinion! ROFLMAO!! You big dummy.
Margo
(NKY, dumber than ever)
Try and keep up, stupid. Margo was filtered a long time ago. BTW, after I
finish being amused by your stupidity, you'll be dropped back in the garbage
can with your "fwiends" Margo and Bernie. Oh, and I'll add Debbie the 400
pounder so you'll have something to snack on..... LOL!!
NKY
Well, there's the ignorant comment.
I came to the same conclusion. That makes us racists, of course (eyeroll)
Margo
Yup - the filter "colander" at work.
Margo
Margo
Wrong, genius. I didn't know Nky until we started talking HERE. However, I do
find him quite humorous as well as accurate.
--Debbie
Margo
Oh, shut up.
You must have gotten up on the wrong side of the cage this morning.
--Debbie
Margo
He has a hard time comprehending that people do form their own opinions of him
based on how he presents himself.
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
BM is obsessed with NKY and sees him everywhere!
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Margo
Admit it! You've called me a cracker behind my back. LMAO!
--Debbie
Margo
(BM)
Gawd, I could see you swishing as you wrote that!
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Does it matter? You've already got me all sized up, don't you? <bm/bm2/Im3>
LOL....he claims to be male, however he lusts after every male on the board. He
claims to be black, but I have never encountered a black person that was so
screwed up. He seems to be trying too hard to prove that he is black. And he
has lied so many times on these boards, that we doubt everything he says.
He lusts after men? Ewwww. What he be doin' to prove he be black? LMFAO!
(Amuseme aka NKY aka Mirage aka Facade aka Sexfiend)
You need help, NKY.
You make me believe in reincarnation. Nobody can be as stupid as you in one
lifetime.
--Debbie
Margo
(BM)
You're so absurd it's impossible not to laugh at you!
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Margo
I see that.
--Debbie
Margo
Would that be a saltine or ritz?
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
You need help, NKY.
LMAO!!! Yes, it's quite apparent he's practiced it to perfection!
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Oh please! You came to your own conclusions based on your friends' opinions.
You don't have your own mind. You and your friends must put your big skulls
together in order to muster up a piece of a thought.
Attacking Dro for telling the truth is pretty much what your friends are good
for anyway. One thing I can say about Dro is that she has her own mind and
doesn't rely on others to do her thinking.
Now, go and ask Bouncy what you should say next.... ok? <bm-aka the winer>
LOL.....Hey, cry baby, You are the one that had to rely on annie, before you
two were exposed for the phonies you are, and you had to leave with her,
because you needed her to tell YOU what to say. You were gone for over a week
until you sucked up to wafflecunt and now SHE tells you what to say. Now, the
other thing is....these new posters DO have a mind of their own, and it burns
your ass that they figured you out so quick. HAHAHAHA!!! Having a bad day, huh?
No, she's been posting here for quite some time - but you only see what you
want to see.
Margo
Awww...it just gives him another reason to whine....BOO HOO
NKY
It's someone that you begged to help you in your attacks against me. You can't
do it alone. We've all seen that. You MUST have help. Pitiful.<bm/bm2>
LOL.....same old bull shit from the same old bull shitter. I have been in your
face for many months. Ever since you started your name calling. Maybe up until
now you scared others off with your bad ass black routine, but it didn't work
with me and some others on herem and you have tried lying, name calling, etc,
and still you are whining about being picked on. Think about this, pal...you
are your own worst enemy.
Wrong, genius. I didn't know Nky until we started talking HERE. However, I do
find him quite humorous as well as accurate.
--Debbie
LOL...... Now you've done it. It is rant time. hehehe
Margo
If so many here are racist, it MUST be a saltine. It's whiter. LOL!
--Debbie
No, she's been posting here for quite some time - but you only see what you
want to see.
Margo
Yep, I figured I'd let someone else give him a clue. Thanks, Margo. I've read
most of his rants, and they are just that: rants.
--Debbie
Oh, shut up. <bm/bm2>
LOL.....SHUT UP?? SHUT UP?? Is that all you got, tough guy?? ROFLMAO!!!! This
the third time a woman has kicked your ass....First, Cher. then Laurie, Now
Debbie. This is what I call a TOTAL MELTDOWN!!!! You go girls!!!!
You're disgusting! The bm2 name was YOU! Heck, you are the paranoid one! I'm
bm2, bm AND Im3 in YOUR opinion! ROFLMAO!! You big dummy.
(BM)
Gawd, I could see you swishing as you wrote that!
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
LOL....WOW, who is he trying to impress? Using limp wristed, wimpy phrases
like; SHUT UP. BUTT HOLE, ETC. You know I think his jealousy is showing, sinc
he has been lusting after me for months. hehehe
I only wanted to give you the opportunity to answer for yourself, but
you wiggled out of answering.
If I were to venture a guess, I'd say a black female. You sure throw
some good hissy fits (more females tend to do that). However, others say you
are male. So...I must change my assessment: you are a gay black male.
LMFAO <amuseme>
LOL....damn you are good. his identity changes daily. just like his stories.
<g>
Did you notice on this thread alone, he states he's NOT black, then states he
IS black? I guess given the particular day, we might find him donning a thong
OR a jockstrap. LMAO!
--Debbie
Try and keep up, stupid. Margo was filtered a long time ago. BTW, after I
finish being amused by your stupidity, you'll be dropped back in the garbage
can with your "fwiends" Margo and Bernie. Oh, and I'll add Debbie the 400
pounder so you'll have something to snack on..... LOL!! <bm/bm2-the "BUTTHOLE"
FILTERER> :::snicker:::
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! This is what bm/bm2 refers to as a major MELTDOWN!!! Are you
really this slow, bm? Every one here knows you obviously don't know how to
filter, since you respond to all the posts. Got it yet, Dufus???
Yup - the filter "colander" at work.
Margo
LOL....Well, no offense to the lovely ladies on this board,...I know this will
coma as a surprise to some of you on here, but what I am about to say will not
be considered to be politically correct. <g> After reading Bm/bm2's posts this
evening, I have concluded he is a black, gay/bi-sexual, male, BLONDE. hehehe
HAAA - Debbie is a Buzzie - some of us have known her a long time.
Margo
Hehehehe....Now you have done it. You have accused him of being wrong. You will
be headed to the "filter" bin.:::snicker:::
(NKY, dumber than ever)
Try and keep up, stupid. Margo was filtered a long time ago. BTW, after I
finish being amused by your stupidity, you'll be dropped back in the garbage
can with your "fwiends" Margo and Bernie. Oh, and I'll add Debbie the 400
pounder so you'll have something to snack on..... LOL!!
<PinchALoafBM>
We all spring from apes, but you didn't spring far enough.
--Debbie
Have you noticed that what Bernie writes isn't necessarily a
glowing picture of you, BM? As far as writing about you, well, Bernie sure hit
the nail on the head many times, it seems, because on this board alone, I've
seen that you flip out for NO REASON. I've heard that Bernie is a very nice
person, so based upon what I've heard and seen here my money's on Bernie having
your number. I guess that's why you're flipping out AGAIN.
--Debbie
Your observation of BOTH is correct. Poor ol' bm/bm2/Im3, is such awierdo, he
makes Michael Jackson look sane.
Now, THAT is scary! LOL!
--Debbie
No, what is scary is that YOU have appeared out of nowhere immediately siding
with a couple of bigots! LOL!
===
Nah..that's one of their 'friends'..who also has no life.
She's been around for awhile.
(Waffles)
Figures. They think about me 24/7. I rule Bouncy and his "fwiends!"
I have no clue who Bouncy is. Damn, if I had a penny for every intelligent
thing you say, I'd be dirt fucking poor.
--Debbie
ROFLMAO!!!!! Whew....show no mercy. <g>
I have no clue who Bouncy is. Damn, if I had a penny for every intelligent
thing you say, I'd be dirt fucking poor.
--Debbie
LOL....damn...remind me to NEVER piss you off. hehehe
:::tapping foot and waiting for the show to continue:::
This ought to be good!!! LOL!
--Debbie
:::tapping foot and waiting for the show to continue:::
This ought to be good!!! LOL!
--Debbie
Nah...he's nver good....kinda pathetic really. But amusing. More like "dark"
humor....oops.
Margo
NKY
This may "coma" as a surprise to YOU, but nobody really cares what you think.
You're nothing but a bigot with bigot friends.
NKY
Ever since Ventslut dropped you as his love muffin, you've been fantasizing
that I lust after you. You are a perverted sicko!
Margo
Not so many. Just Bouncy and his hood wearing "fwiends"
Margo
I see that.
--Debbie
I've formed my own opinion of Bernie, too... based on how she presents herself!
She's a hypocrite.
And you, Debbie.... are a mindless cunt.
Margo
If his IQ were two points higher he'd be a rock. Damn.
--Debbie
Yeah, and you can sniff it, Fatso.
> Have you noticed that what Bernie writes isn't necessarily a
> glowing picture of you, BM? As far as writing about you, well, Bernie
sure hit
> the nail on the head many times, it seems, because on this board alone,
I've
> seen that you flip out for NO REASON. I've heard that Bernie is a very
nice
> person, so based upon what I've heard and seen here my money's on Bernie
having
> your number. I guess that's why you're flipping out AGAIN.
> --Debbie
>
> ===
> Actually, she's not a very nice person. She's an angry nasty person. So
you
> heard wrong.
> I can see that you're hung up on BM ...
> oh well, it's a typical problem for him.
> He's familiar with stalkers.
> (Waffles)
>
> This is true. This person just came in out of the blue to attack me. How
> endearing!
No, she's been posting here for quite some time - but you only see what you
want to see.
Margo
Yep, I figured I'd let someone else give him a clue. Thanks, Margo. I've read
most of his rants, and they are just that: rants.
--Debbie
Oh, shut up.
You must have gotten up on the wrong side of the cage this morning.
--Debbie
I did. The side with you peeping out.
NKY
This may "coma" as a surprise to YOU, but nobody really cares what you think.
You're nothing but a bigot with bigot friends.<bm/bm2>
NKY
This may "coma" as a surprise to YOU, but nobody really cares what you think.
You're nothing but a bigot with bigot friends.<bm/bm2>
LOL sorry about the blank post...i got a phone call and hit send......anyway,
the post above is just one way when you know you have gotten the best of ol'
bm/bm2. he has no credible response., so he criticizes the grammar...what's up
wif dat???
Margo
Oh, shut up. <bm/bm2>
NKY
YOU are a wimp. You hide behind women because you're too afraid to bring your
big balls out in the open! LMAO!! You pulled Bernie out of the barn, but the
big cow couldn't do anything for you. You hid behind Bard until she proved
that she was too intelligent to engage in your kind of silliness.
You tried to hide behind Cher and Laurie, but both of them are too smart to be
used by you. They prefer for you to try and be a man.
Now, you go and get this big slob named Debbie. ROFLMAO!!! I bet she's bigger
than a walrus.
that I lust after you. You are a perverted sicko! (BM)
Hardly a need to fantasize when you do it so publicly.
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Margo
I see that.
--Debbie
(BM)
Awwwwwwwwwww, just because we think you're an asshole.
Bernie
-for Jason 4/3/98
Not so many. Just Bouncy and his hood wearing "fwiends"<bm/bm2>
As it has been said on here many times, bm, the person that cries racist the
most is the true racist. And the only one on here that whines constantly about
racists, is you. Hell, you have used it so many times, coming from you it is a
badge of honor. You keep forgetting: IT IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE CALLED, BUT WHAT
YOU ANSWER TO. And you have answered to almost every name that has been thrown
at you. Go figure.