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HLector  
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From: "HLector" <hani...@drenik.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 01:17:42 +0100
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca

> Ovo uopąte nije tačno. Pogledaj malo pod system properties podeąavanja
> IDE kontrolera.

Nema veze sta ce da ti on pokazuje, bitno je kako radi. Ja sam svojevremeno
imao Creative Infra 36x koji je PIO4 i mogao sam da mu ukljucim UDMA ali se
tad ponasao jako problematicno. Ti mozes da ukljucis UDMA ali ce biti onako
kako sam vec napisao. Sta mislis zasto vecina ljudi razdvaja CD/DVD  na
posebnu granu?

 
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From: "HLector" <hani...@drenik.net>
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 01:09:23 +0100
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca

> slave je CD ili DVD player, a njih ima UDMA100.

Nisam cuo da postoje a jos manje verujem a ih kod nas ima i ako postoje.

 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 02:04:02 +0100
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca
"HLector" <hani...@drenik.net> napisa:

> Nema veze sta ce da ti on pokazuje, bitno je kako radi. Ja sam svojevremeno
> imao Creative Infra 36x koji je PIO4 i mogao sam da mu ukljucim UDMA ali se
> tad ponasao jako problematicno. Ti mozes da ukljucis UDMA ali ce biti onako
> kako sam vec napisao. Sta mislis zasto vecina ljudi razdvaja CD/DVD  na
> posebnu granu?

Da bi brže kopirali sa CD na HD.
LM, sad probah, ručno sam stavio teac na PIO4 (na istoj grani je kao i
HD), krenem da kopiram nekih 30 MB sa hard na hard :) i sasvim je
normalno moglo da se radi... Koliko se ja sećam, kad radi PIO4 uređaj ne
može maltene ništa da se radi koliko je CPU zauzet?

 
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:00:19 +0100
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca
woykh...@RSHsezampro.yu, poznat kao WoyKhan, se izlete i rece:

> "Gadafi" <gad...@NOSPAM.mail.ru> napisa:

>> Jel ti vidis da je covek napisao da je rezac sekundarni master?
>> Primarni slave je CD ili DVD player, a njih ima UDMA100.

> UDMA100 (pa i 66) CD?
> Koji npr?
> Pitam, stvarno ne znam.

Za CD ne znam. Pretpostavljam da ima. Moj ASUS DVD je UDMA 100.

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From: "Nemanja Simovic" <cacaf...@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu>
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:50:10 +0100
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca
Ima veze. Kada salju zahtev za prekid zajedno, prihvata se prioritetniji. A
to je master. Tako da kada bi rezao nesto sa slaveom, a sa mastera citao
mogao bi da upropasti disk. Jer on treba da upisuje kontinualno. Je li tako?

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:46:00 +0100
Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca
Stvarno sta ako ima 3 hdd-a?

 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:55:43 +0100
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"Nemanja Simovic" <cacaf...@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu> napisa:

> Ima veze. Kada salju zahtev za prekid zajedno, prihvata se prioritetniji. A
> to je master. Tako da kada bi rezao nesto sa slaveom, a sa mastera citao
> mogao bi da upropasti disk. Jer on treba da upisuje kontinualno. Je li tako?

Pa zašta služi onda onaj buffer u njemu?

 
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"Gadafi" <gad...@NOSPAM.mail.ru> napisa:

> Za CD ne znam. Pretpostavljam da ima. Moj ASUS DVD je UDMA 100.

Nisam znao to...
I jel mu treba? Koliki mu je transfer?

 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:54:37 +0100
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"Nemanja Simovic" <cacaf...@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu> napisa:

> Stvarno sta ako ima 3 hdd-a?

1) jedan proda
2) dva proda i kupi veći
3) kupi ploču sa RAIDom
4) kupi poseban kontroler

 
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On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 02:04:02 +0100, WoyKhan <woykh...@RSHsezampro.yu>
wrote:

>"HLector" <hani...@drenik.net> napisa:

>> Nema veze sta ce da ti on pokazuje, bitno je kako radi. Ja sam svojevremeno
>> imao Creative Infra 36x koji je PIO4 i mogao sam da mu ukljucim UDMA ali se
>> tad ponasao jako problematicno. Ti mozes da ukljucis UDMA ali ce biti onako
>> kako sam vec napisao. Sta mislis zasto vecina ljudi razdvaja CD/DVD  na
>> posebnu granu?

>Da bi brže kopirali sa CD na HD.
>LM, sad probah, ručno sam stavio teac na PIO4 (na istoj grani je kao i
>HD), krenem da kopiram nekih 30 MB sa hard na hard :) i sasvim je
>normalno moglo da se radi... Koliko se ja sećam, kad radi PIO4 uređaj ne
>može maltene ništa da se radi koliko je CPU zauzet?

Apsolutno, stvarno ne znam odakle mu ta ideja?
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:56:45 +0100
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:50:10 +0100, "Nemanja Simovic"

<cacaf...@galeb.etf.bg.ac.yu> wrote:
>Ima veze. Kada salju zahtev za prekid zajedno, prihvata se prioritetniji. A
>to je master. Tako da kada bi rezao nesto sa slaveom, a sa mastera citao
>mogao bi da upropasti disk. Jer on treba da upisuje kontinualno. Je li tako?

Jeste. :)
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:19:29 +0100
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"HLector" <hani...@drenik.net> wrote in message
> > slave je CD ili DVD player, a njih ima UDMA100.
> Nisam cuo da postoje a jos manje verujem a ih kod nas ima i ako postoje.

:-))))))))))))))))))))
Vidi ih, dva nevernika... ;-))))

 
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:18:54 +0100
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"Gadafi" <gad...@NOSPAM.mail.ru> wrote in message
> Za CD ne znam. Pretpostavljam da ima. Moj ASUS DVD je UDMA 100.

A gura koliko... 25 MB?

 
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:17:58 +0100
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"WoyKhan" <woykh...@RSHsezampro.yu> wrote in message
> > Stvarno sta ako ima 3 hdd-a?
> 1) jedan proda
> 2) dva proda i kupi veći
> 3) kupi ploču sa RAIDom
> 4) kupi poseban kontroler

I gurne JEDAN hard na RAID???

 
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"Lord" <vmil...@sezampro.yu> napisa:

> I gurne JEDAN hard na RAID???

Ne na RAID nego na taj kontroler.

 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:45:49 +0100
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca
Choban <cho...@seeezaamprooo.yu> napisa:

> >Da bi brže kopirali sa CD na HD.
> >LM, sad probah, ručno sam stavio teac na PIO4 (na istoj grani je kao i
> >HD), krenem da kopiram nekih 30 MB sa hard na hard :) i sasvim je
> >normalno moglo da se radi... Koliko se ja sećam, kad radi PIO4 uređaj ne
> >može maltene ništa da se radi koliko je CPU zauzet?
> Apsolutno, stvarno ne znam odakle mu ta ideja?

Nemam pojma, ali izgleda da je jedina veza ipak ono da ne mogu da rade
oba uređaja odjednom.

 
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Choban, cho...@seeezaamprooo.yu napisa...

> >> Rezač obavezno na master (dakle secondary master), a plejer na slave.
> >Zaąto obavezno?
> Eto, zato.
> Pa valjda su (barem teoretski) bolje performanse uređaja koji je
> master od onoga koji je slave. Moľda greąim?

Nisu bolje performanse nego uredjaj koji je prikachen na master ima vishi
prioritet..

 
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Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca
Znaci HDD pm, citac ps, rezac sm
E sad jedno bas glupo pitanje, ima li kakve veze na koje mesto na IDE kablu
se kace uredjaji, i ako ima kakve
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"Tezak je zivot nas prosvetnih radnika.", rece HLector  i umoci metlu u
kofu...

>> Neka kupi SCSI... ;)
> Ili RAID kontroler ili plocu sa istim.

Mislimd a RAID ne resava prokletsvo EIDE sistema, ogranicenje od 4
uredjaja...

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vmil...@sezampro.yu, poznat kao Lord, se izlete i reče:

> "Gadafi" <gad...@NOSPAM.mail.ru> wrote in message

>> Za CD ne znam. Pretpostavljam da ima. Moj ASUS DVD je UDMA 100.

> A gura koliko... 25 MB?

16x DVD max.

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:59:35 +0100
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woykh...@RSHsezampro.yu, poznat kao WoyKhan, se izlete i rece:

> "Gadafi" <gad...@NOSPAM.mail.ru> napisa:

>> Za CD ne znam. Pretpostavljam da ima. Moj ASUS DVD je UDMA 100.

> Nisam znao to...
> I jel mu treba? Koliki mu je transfer?

Transfer mu je 48x max za CD i 16x max za DVD. Dal' mu treba bas UDMA100 -
ne znam, ali treba hdd-u na istoj grani.

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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:08:00 +0100
Subject: Re: pitanja u vezi pisaca

On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:47:58 +0100, "b@n?Xo" <ban...@eunet.yu> wrote:
>Znaci HDD pm, citac ps, rezac sm
>E sad jedno bas glupo pitanje, ima li kakve veze na koje mesto na IDE kablu
>se kace uredjaji, i ako ima kakve

Nije glupo pitanje, ne moraš da vodiš računa uopšte, samo je bitno da
ispravno nabudžiš džampere na uređajima.
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:52:09 +0100
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"b@nŠXo" <ban...@eunet.yu> napisa:

> E sad jedno bas glupo pitanje, ima li kakve veze na koje mesto na IDE kablu
> se kace uredjaji, i ako ima kakve

Ima veze samo kad jumperom na uređaju postaviš "cable select", onda
valjda srednji konektor bude master a onaj krajnji slave. Ipak je
preporučljivo da direktno odrediš ko je master a ko slave i onda je
nebitno kako ih kačiš.

 
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Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:20:25 +0100
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On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 17:52:09 +0100, WoyKhan <woykh...@RSHsezampro.yu>
wrote:

>"b@nŠXo" <ban...@eunet.yu> napisa:

>> E sad jedno bas glupo pitanje, ima li kakve veze na koje mesto na IDE kablu
>> se kace uredjaji, i ako ima kakve

>Ima veze samo kad jumperom na uređaju postaviš "cable select", onda
>valjda srednji konektor bude master a onaj krajnji slave. Ipak je
>preporučljivo da direktno odrediš ko je master a ko slave i onda je
>nebitno kako ih kačiš.

Tako je kolega! Biće nešto i od vas:)))
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 18:23:31 +0100
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"WoyKhan" <woykh...@RSHsezampro.yu> wrote in message
> > I gurne JEDAN hard na RAID???
> Ne na RAID nego na taj kontroler.

Aha, na to si mislio... A ja gledam po brojevima, i jos se cudim sto si pod
1. rek'o da proda jedan hard, a pod 2. da proda posle jos jedan! Sto ne
odma' dva u cugu? :-PPPPP

 
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