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Robert  
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 More options Nov 1 2012, 2:05 pm
From: Robert <rlle...@mac.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 11:05:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2012 2:05 pm
Subject: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

The iCloud support has gone on soooo long that my two Yojimbo files are now
WAY out of sync.  I really hope that when the solution is found, the update
will make it easy to merge the two files.


 
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Terry J Fundak  
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 More options Nov 1 2012, 6:03 pm
From: Terry J Fundak <te...@tjsoftworks.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 15:03:49 -0700
Local: Thurs, Nov 1 2012 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

+1..... I'm close to giving up....

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Johan™Strandberg  
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 More options Nov 2 2012, 11:23 am
From: Johan™Strandberg <johan...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:23:49 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 11:23 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

I gave up when I was told by the developer that I didn't need to sync.

I still have a royal mess of duplicate data to extract because I beloved
the original promises.

Yojimbo is dead for all practical purposes. Now it is only the loyal and
locked in user-base left. I don't expect them to ever fix Yojimbo. Apple
will be blamed, and the development officially terminated.

--j
On Nov 2, 2012 1:59 PM, "Terry J Fundak" <te...@tjsoftworks.com> wrote:


 
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Steve Kalkwarf  
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 More options Nov 2 2012, 11:45 am
From: Steve Kalkwarf <kalkw...@barebones.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:45:35 -0400
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 11:45 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

> I gave up when I was told by the developer that I didn't need to sync.

As "the developer" I have no idea what you're talking about.

Steve


 
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Fabian Bolte  
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 More options Nov 2 2012, 11:41 am
From: Fabian Bolte <fbo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 16:41:39 +0100
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 11:41 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

> Yojimbo is dead for all practical purposes.

That would only be the case if you can't launch it anymore.

Syncing via Dropbox works pretty well for me. I have two machines, home and work. On both run a cron jobs telling Yojimbo to quit at specific times. That is in the early morning on my home machine and shortly after I usually leave work on my work machine. I can't remember when I last hit the Yojimbo-seems-to-be-running-on-another-computer warning.

Am 02.11.2012 um 16:23 schrieb Johan™Strandberg <johan...@gmail.com>:


 
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Robert  
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 More options Nov 2 2012, 2:28 pm
From: Robert <rlle...@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2012 11:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Nov 2 2012 2:28 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

This company has such a good reputation that I'm willing to stick it out a
little longer.  But it will be very hard to use if there's no easy way to
merge my two files which have gotten so out of sync due to the delay.  I'm
way past the dropbox solution since the files are so different now.


 
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Mike Conley  
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 More options Nov 3 2012, 6:51 am
From: Mike Conley <mtconle...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 03:51:32 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sat, Nov 3 2012 6:51 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:28:05 PM UTC, Robert wrote:

> I'm way past the dropbox solution since the files are so different now.

You do know you could have synced them by hand anywhere along the line?
It's not that tough.

And if you've read the threads on this topic, I've at least twice pointed
to a set of Applescripts I wrote that do the job reasonably well. They
don't merge content of items, but they do export and import individual
items, and you can then resolve the differences by hand yourself.

Not perfect, but it works for me. I haven't had MobileMe syncing working
for a couple of years now, and I will use iCloud only as long as it is
free. The instant they plan to charge me anything for the bare-bones (no
pun intended) level of support, I'm dropping it completely and moving to a
DropBox or other solution.


 
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Diane Ross  
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 More options Nov 3 2012, 1:33 pm
From: Diane Ross <dianeofore...@live.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 10:33:34 -0700
Local: Sat, Nov 3 2012 1:33 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:28:05 PM UTC, Robert wrote:
> I'm way past the dropbox solution since the files are so different now.

Export from the date you stopped the sync. Import into other file.

--
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Johan™Strandberg  
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 More options Nov 4 2012, 1:21 am
From: Johan™Strandberg <johan...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 07:20:30 +0100
Local: Sun, Nov 4 2012 1:20 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

It wasn't you, it was Patrick Wolsey. He just dismissed a detailed
description by telling me I didn't need to sync.

--j

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Mike Conley  
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 More options Nov 4 2012, 6:44 am
From: Mike Conley <mtconle...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 03:44:14 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 4 2012 6:44 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

On Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:51:32 AM UTC, Mike Conley wrote:

> You do know you could have synced them by hand anywhere along the line?
> It's not that tough.

> And if you've read the threads on this topic, I've at least twice pointed
> to a set of Applescripts I wrote that do the job reasonably well. They
> don't merge content of items, but they do export and import individual
> items, and you can then resolve the differences by hand yourself.

I'll just add that the thing that makes syncing by hand at all difficult is
the preservation of tags and so forth, and the inability to import
Passwords as objects (they are exported as text, and you can't import back
into a Password). The scripts I mention take care of this problem for you,
and also retain colour and, I think, other attributes that I don't recall
offhand.

 
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Robert  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 12:17 pm
From: Robert <rlle...@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 09:17:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

Two problems.  One, I will end up with hundreds of duplicate files.  Also,
many files that started out as duplicates, are now different and need to be
merged.


 
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Patrick Woolsey  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 3:04 pm
From: Patrick Woolsey <pwool...@barebones.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:57:31 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete
At 07:20 +0100 11/04/2012, Johan Strandberg wrote:

>It wasn't you, it was Patrick Wolsey. He just dismissed a detailed
>description by telling me I didn't need to sync.

With respect, that is not what I said; rather, I was attempting to offer
advice about how to handle the specific situation which you had described,
and I'm sorry if that advice wasn't useful.

Regards,

 Patrick Woolsey
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Bare Bones Software, Inc.             <http://www.barebones.com/>


 
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Patrick Woolsey  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 3:23 pm
From: Patrick Woolsey <pwool...@barebones.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:12:47 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete
At 11:28 -0700 11/02/2012, Robert wrote:

>This company has such a good reputation that I'm willing to stick it out a
>little longer.  But it will be very hard to use if there's no easy way to
>merge my two files which have gotten so out of sync due to the delay.  I'm
>way past the dropbox solution since the files are so different now.

At the point iCloud support is ready, we will also have a solution in hand
for this issue.

Regards,

 Patrick Woolsey
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Bare Bones Software, Inc.             <http://www.barebones.com/>


 
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Tripp Frohlichstein  
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 More options Nov 5 2012, 4:29 pm
From: Tripp Frohlichstein <tfr...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:04:31 -0600
Local: Mon, Nov 5 2012 4:04 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete
Cool.
On Nov 5, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Patrick Woolsey <pwool...@barebones.com> wrote:


 
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Mike Conley  
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 More options Nov 6 2012, 5:58 am
From: Mike Conley <mtconle...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 02:58:07 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 6 2012 5:58 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

On Monday, November 5, 2012 5:17:06 PM UTC, Robert wrote:

> Two problems.  One, I will end up with hundreds of duplicate files.  Also,
> many files that started out as duplicates, are now different and need to be
> merged.

Well, that is a problem. The scripts will put all the newly-imported
objects into a new collection called '• Imported Items', so you will be
able to distinguish the new ones from the old ones. But if you have made a
lot of changes to the internals of the individual items, then you will have
to figure out what to keep and what not to keep (presumably you will want
the latest version, so you can distinguish them by date).

To be honest, I don't think that if you have, for example, two Notes that
started out identical but now contain completely different text, that
Yojimbo's sync mechanism is going to solve that problem for you. It seems
to me that it will simply pick the most recent version. Someone can correct
me on that if I'm wrong, but if I'm right, you've got a problem regardless.


 
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MW  
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 More options Nov 9 2012, 7:42 am
From: MW <mark.rationalthin...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 04:42:19 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 9 2012 7:42 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

+1000, several months ago support told me there is no way to merge
databases. If they don't offer this option, I'm done with this product. In
fact, I can't wait any longer either. Whomever wins this race to get an
iCloud compatible database app working will get my money and support.


 
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Mike Conley  
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 More options Nov 10 2012, 6:10 am
From: Mike Conley <mtconle...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 03:10:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 10 2012 6:10 am
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

On Friday, November 9, 2012 12:42:19 PM UTC, MW wrote:

> +1000, several months ago support told me there is no way to merge
> databases. If they don't offer this option, I'm done with this product. In
> fact, I can't wait any longer either. Whomever wins this race to get an
> iCloud compatible database app working will get my money and support.

Was there a race? Must have missed the firing pistol ...

In any event, you will then not only have the chore of merging your
databases (which you've allowed through your own neglect to fall out of
sync) but then porting it to a new app. Good luck with that. I'm sure
you'll be sorely missed.


 
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Robert  
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 More options Nov 10 2012, 5:04 pm
From: Robert <rlle...@mac.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:04:16 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Nov 10 2012 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: easy merge of Yojimbo files after iCloud support is complete

you will then not only have the chore of merging your databases (which
you've allowed through your own neglect to fall out of sync)

I'm a fan of this company, but do I understand you correctly? You are
rebuking a customer for neglecting to let the files fall out of sync, when
it is taking the company this long to provide sync?  Something which
Omnifocus, 1 Password, and others have had for ages?  If iCloud sync is so
difficult, use another solution.


 
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