Syncing Yojimbo to iPhone/iTouch - Mark/Space
Jan Erik Moström
the iPhone/iTouch
Does anyone have any experience with this app? Does it actually work?
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Jan Erik Moström
how good/bad it is.
barstep
iPhone notes with Yojimbo but not the other way round - so it's
virtual useless - how can sync only work one way? It's more of a merge
than a sync.
It also changes the create date of Yojimbo notes (and therefore the
listing order) when it updates notes edited on the iPhone.
I hate to say it here - but the best way to keep iPhone and Mac in
sync is to use Evernote - but that's not a solution for syncing
Yojimbo.
I have also had little help from their support for other problems that
have arisen using Mark/Space. I've now deleted it.
primeminister
Yojimbo sync pur sang.
bummer...
/me is diving into object-c to build iphone-yojimbo sync! ;)
Jan Erik Moström
>In my experience this is a really overpriced app.
I was afraid of that
>It will sync your iPhone notes with Yojimbo but not the other way
>round - so it's virtual useless - how can sync only work one
>way?
Especially when the other way is the important one ;-)
>I hate to say it here - but the best way to keep iPhone and Mac in
>sync is to use Evernote
But it looks like they don't sync notes automatically either and
you need to manually mark which notes that needs to be synced.
>but that's not a solution for syncing Yojimbo.
No. My problem is that I've suddenly have a need for being able
to sync notes to my iTouch and I can't seem to find a single
application that
+ has a good Mac client
+ has a good iTouch client
+ sync without me needing to take any special actions (I love
how my
address book and calendars sync without me having to do anything)
>I have also had little help from their support for other problems that
>have arisen using Mark/Space. I've now deleted it.
Thanks for your answer, the reason that I asked was that I've
had similar experiences while I was using a Palm. The support
was once great but then they switched to some other kind of
support (perhaps they became too big to do it the old way which
caused support quality to dive ...)
jem
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Jan Erik Moström
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Jason Davies
>But it looks like they don't sync notes automatically either and you
>need to manually mark which notes that needs to be synced.
>
>>but that's not a solution for syncing Yojimbo.
>
>No. My problem is that I've suddenly have a need for being able to sync
>notes to my iTouch and I can't seem to find a single application that
as I understand it, the problem with full sync (inc with Palms)
was this:
1) library has 1000 items, 10 of which are too big for the
mobile client.
2) if you sync to Palm/iPhone, those 10 are truncated.
3) sync back...truncated files replace originals. hey presto,
ruined library.
I await something that approaches the usability of the old
Filemaker Pro/JFile conduits but in the meantime I find
Omnifocus is a very smooth operator for moving things like
notes. Not exactly what you're after and certainly not Yojimbo though.
Seems to me that syncing Yojimbo to a small client is going to
sound much more convenient than it is. I used to have huge
databases going back and forth on the Palm and I just didn't use
them enough to make it worthwhile. Yojimbo for me has a lot of
pdfs which won't display easily and a lot of records that search
quickly (would that be possible on the iPhone?)
So they're different creatures. YJ is a huge box I drop things
in and retrieve later easily - for moving small amounts of
transient info, Omnifocus does a very good job. I can't imagine
how YJ would *actually* work on the small screen and slow input
of an iPhone (even a Palm with a keyboard wasn't as good as it
should have been).
I just bought a new Macbook (lighter) so I carry that around ...:-)
Jan Erik Moström
>I await something that approaches the usability of the old
>Filemaker Pro/JFile conduits but in the meantime I find
>Omnifocus is a very smooth operator for moving things like
>notes. Not exactly what you're after and certainly not Yojimbo though.
>
>Seems to me that syncing Yojimbo to a small client is going to
>sound much more convenient than it is. I used to have huge
>databases going back and forth on the Palm and I just didn't
>use them enough to make it worthwhile. Yojimbo for me has a lot
>of pdfs which won't display easily and a lot of records that
>search quickly (would that be possible on the iPhone?)
>
>So they're different creatures. YJ is a huge box I drop things
>in and retrieve later easily - for moving small amounts of
>transient info, Omnifocus does a very good job. I can't imagine
>how YJ would *actually* work on the small screen and slow input
>of an iPhone (even a Palm with a keyboard wasn't as good as it
>should have been).
>
>I just bought a new Macbook (lighter) so I carry that around ...:-)
I suppose it depends how you use Yojimbo and what you expect to
be able to do. I'm looking for a way to have notes available
with me - I got my calendar, my address book, I'm able to check
email if I have network access and I kind of expect to be able
to have my notes with me also (mostly as a reference not so much
for entering new info - because of the problems you list).
I don't have any large PDFs etc that I want to sync (although
size-wise this shouldn't be a problem --- my work folder on my
Mac is about 1GB and my iTouch has at least 20GB of free space),
but I want to be able to have notes about what was said during a
meetings, smaller PDFs etc. Since I view these files using Mail
I can't really see why I shouldn't be able to do this in another
application. There are of course limitation due to screen size,
processing power and power consumption.
Personally I store to big files in other ways and I wouldn't be
interested in having those on my iTouch. So I'm probably using
Yojimbo differently than you do --- but my biggest problem is
that I can't find ANY app that do this :(
Jason Davies
>Personally I store to big files in other ways and I wouldn't be
>interested in having those on my iTouch. So I'm probably using Yojimbo
>differently than you do --- but my biggest problem is that I can't find
>ANY app that do this :(
if your notes are just a screensize rather than 'documents' you
might find Omnifocus is the closest you'll get. It doesn't sync
the 'notes' bit of each item (a separate field from the subject)
in the Mac version but I have not yet discovered the limit of
how much text you can put in an item. You could get the demo of
OF for the mac but would have to buy the iApp version. If you
send me three sample notes of the type and length you're using,
I'll add them to my OF and see how well it works, and send you
screenshots. All you have to do is set the due date to never and
for OF to show all notes (rather than due) and they'll stay
there as long as you want them.
I am aware that this is OT. But I'm also aware that this issue
arises here periodically without solution. I wonder if the
list-mom is happy to let this run to see if the question of
syncing short notes rather than large documents can be resolved
(thus saving the message load in future)?
Jan Erik Moström
>in the Mac version but I have not yet discovered the limit of
>how much text you can put in an item. You could get the demo of
>OF for the mac but would have to buy the iApp version. If you
>send me three sample notes of the type and length you're using,
>I'll add them to my OF and see how well it works, and send you
>screenshots. All you have to do is set the due date to never
>and for OF to show all notes (rather than due) and they'll stay
>there as long as you want them.
Thanks for the offer ... but since I'm using OF myself both on
my Mac and iTouch I might as well try it myself. I haven't
actually thought of using OF ... perhaps it will work.
John W
can edit notes and such, search your notes. Evernote isn't Yojimbo
there's definitely features i miss, but since those features weren't
as important as mobile access, I switched to evernote.
Might be worth looking into, and exporting YJ to text then importing
to Evernote is actually pretty flawless.
On Dec 16, 6:35 am, Jan Erik Moström <most...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jason Davies <ophioc...@gmail.com> 08-12-16 12.34
scgf
take forever!
scgf
THEN export. OK, now to work on the Evernote side of things.
scgf
> Might be worth looking into, and exporting YJ to text then importing
> to Evernote is actually pretty flawless.
Yojimbo is greyed out :-(
scgf
all your Yojimbo items over to Evernote and will even evoke Evernote's
web clipping service to fetch web sites that were archived in Yojimbo.
I now have a solution which is available to me on my Macs, my iPhone
and and Windows machines I may be forced to use. Nice!
I like Yojimbo, but without that essential mobile piece of the jigsaw
it was becoming unworkable.
primeminister
Mark
plain slow, even over Wifi. After the initial setup, which is a
little tricky with non-apple routers, and the need to keep your
machine running 24/7 at home, I decided to switch to OmniFocus. It
has actual sync between iPhone and the app, via your Mobile Me
account. It syncs automatically, you never have to hit the sync
button. Only downside is Omnifocus takes some time to launch on
iPhone once loaded up with a few hundred notes.
But,
I really wish there was an actual APP for Yojimbo on the iPhone. I
still like Yojimbo's simplicity and would rather use it. Maybe they,
or someone, will write one.