Unite or perish... ITS NOW OR NEVER!!!

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Safal Suri

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Nov 4, 2011, 1:01:54 AM11/4/11
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Hi All… !

 

Early in days Sanjay Gandhi realized the growing need for a dedicated industrial township in close proximity to Delhi. At that time, the concept of NCR (National Capital Region) was, well, just a concept. A new city south-east of Delhi, called New Okhla Industrial Development Area (NOIDA) came into administrative existence during emergency period of 1975-1977, on 17th April, 1976. Formed under Uttar Pradesh Industrial Development Act, all land acquisitions since the very first day of it’s inception, each and every inch of it, till date, has been done under Section 17(1) and 17(4), using urgency and public good clause.

 

Same is the case with Greater Noida Industrial Development Area (GNIDA), popularly referred to Greater Noida, which came into existence on 30th January 1991. All land acquisitions in Greater Noida, similar to Noida, took place under Section 17(1) and 17(4), using urgency and public good clause.

 

The third and last city in Dist. Gautam Budh Nagar, known as Yamuna Expressway Industrial Development Area (YEIDA), formed on 24.04.2001 as Taj Expressway Industrial Development Area. Later the name was changed to Yamuna Expressway Industrial Development Area on 11.07.2008. All land acquisitions in this city… similar to it’s two sisters cities, Noida and Greater Noida…. took place under Section 17(1) and 17(4), using urgency and public good clause.

 

To sum up… for the last 35 years… all subsequent governments have acquired land in this area using urgency and public good clause. All three cities were primarily established to encourage industrial activities, but somewhere down the road, the focused was lost and the prime objective has now changed to… establish financially lucrative residential areas. Its unfortunate, but true.

 

Recent couple of years… in fact last 6-8 months… have witnessed humongous protests from farmers whose land has been acquired over the years. There are many angles to these protests. It stands true that the farmers have genuine concerns/grievances and their land is being snatched by the state against their will. At the same time… it is also true, that the growing income/asset disparities are finally beginning to display it’s ugly head. Then there is the third angle… the political angle. With upcoming state elections, every political party is desperate to rake up any and every possible issue to dethrone reining government. Some issues raised by farmers are genuine… standing long un-addressed and ignored by all subsequent governments… where as some issues are being fabricated and farmers are encouraged to file lawsuits to gain political mileage. Again unfortunate, but that’s India. That’s the way we do things and everyone accepts without protest. My honest worry… at the end of the day… when the political dust settles… farmers from all spectrums of political alliances… will be left high and dry… and this short lived limelight will leave them in worse position.

 

Similar to every other sectors/areas in Noida and Greater Noida, the land acquired for Sector 18 and Sector 20 at YEIDA was done using Section 17, more specifically Sections 17(1) and 17(4). Even though karar niyamavali (mutual agreement) was used to acquire a significant portion of land… not all land was acquired under the system and hence, 2,500 hectares of land in both sectors was acquired under dozens of different notifications. Even today, there remains small patches of land, within both the sectors, that is still to be acquired. Most of these patches of land are in periphery of villages, disputed and demanded by villages under abadi.

 

Even though the vast portion of Sector 18 & Sector 20 is still under active cultivation by farmers who owned the land till the authority acquired it… a vast majority of land is under authority’s possession… at least on paper. Sector dividing roads are being constructed in a hurry and most of the ground laying work is complete. I’m informed that sewer (pipes) laying work has also started. Over all, even though most land is still under cultivation, the development work has already started and is underway.

 

Some people are under impression that the villagers in both the sectors have recently approached the courts to either demand enhanced compensation or reclaim their land. That’s not true. The cases started getting filed even before the scheme was declared in early 2008. When the draw took place in October and November of 2008, only about half of the land was acquired. Rest of the land got acquired, under various notifications, in the leading months. To the best of my knowledge 90%+ land has been acquired and 85%+ villager’s have claimed/accepted compensation so far.

 

Over and above than genuine grievances… backed by political support and inspired by natural greed… residents of 30+ villages on Yamuna Expressway, between Dankaur and Jewar, have recently approached Allahabad High Court demanding enhanced compensation or return of their land. Some of these villages are in Sector 18 and Sector 20.

 

I’m informed by lawyers and media people that even though a vast majority of farmers at YEIDA are seeking parity in compensation rates with those in Noida and Greater Noida… some farmers are beginning to demand return of their land and have vowed to accept nothing less than that. It is still unknown who is demanding what in which sector. As we discuss the matter, increasing number of cases are being filed at Allahabad High Court by the farmers. I was informed yesterday night by a friend in media at Lucknow that roughly 5 odd dozen cases were filled in last 4 days alone.

 

Speaking of number of cases… to be honest, it really doesn’t matter how many farmers seek justice from the court of law. A case filled by one farmer is as good by cases by the entire village. The court has recently set precedence by cancelling land acquisition notification at Shahberi village at Noida Extension on hearing of a case filled by a single villager. So, in essence, a single case is as important as many. Anyhow, the point here is… we like it or not… we are now aware and sure that… the cases have been filled by villagers of Sector 18 and Sector 20… either claiming enhanced compensation or return of their land (not sure of that, yet). What do we do?

 

Apparently we have two choices. First… we take a back seat, sit and watch the entire drama unfold and let SOMEONE ELSE fight it out. Two… we take the threat seriously and do something about it. What do you think we should do?

 

Should we sleep over it and let our hard earned money go to waste?

Should we wait for someone else to do us a favour and fight for our rights?

Should we act miser, both in terms of efforts and money, and save few hours and few thousands that we can?

 

WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

 

Well… that maybe a wrong question in the first place. Before we ask, what should we do… what needs to be asked is… WHAT SHOULD I DO? Each one of us needs to answer this question for himself/herself. What do you want to do?

 

Well some of us have already asked ourselves and answered the question. Some of us have decided to unite, pool in our resources… in terms of knowledge, contacts, efforts and money… and stand up for our rights and fight/defend ourselves and our interest.

 

We did nothing wrong. We didn’t lie. We didn’t cheat anyone. We participated in open for all scheme offered by the government of the day. We played by the rules. Rules which we didn’t create at the first place. Rules which were, till now, supposed to be correct and lawful. So then… WHY SHOULD WE SUFFER?

 

It is not just the money at stake here. There is a lot more. There are 21,000 owners. Each has his/her own calculation. Each has a different stake. For some this is the only property they own. For some this will be the only property they will ever own. Some took a bank loan. Some had to break fixed deposit in the bank, while some even scarified the sanctity of a provident fund. But, its not just the money that’s at stake. It is also peace of mind. It is everyday tension and worry about what’s going to happen. It is our future at stake. This uncertainty, anxiety and insecurity will not only affect us financially, but may also affect mentally.

 

I remember a few days back someone wrote negative comments about YERWA as an association. Well, keeping individual freedom in mind, I welcome any and all criticism. That’s how someone thinks and so be it. It’s his/her thoughts. I think the other way. For me, glass is already half full and all it needs is another half a glass of water. I believe anyone of us… any single person… has the ability to fill the other half. No doubting human courage and strength. However, I also believe that it will be quicker and easier if we all walk together. Therefore, in my view, we need to ignore such characters and chart our own path.

 

There is an old Chinese saying: “Every crisis is an opportunity”… Barrack Obama improvised on it and said “Every crisis is a terrible opportunity to waste”… Let me add my very own observation/belief… “Every crisis is like a high tide… those who learn to swim… survive… those who stand and wait… are drowned”. We have done enough talking. Its time we act. Its time we swim… together.

 

What we need right now is the… numbers. We just don’t need the numbers… we desperately need numbers. There are 21,000 allottee. We should AT LEAST be 10% for any court to take a serious note of us. Although the numbers is not a pre-requirement I am told by quite a few senior lawyers that at the end of the day, numbers do make a difference. It is easy to any court to ignore a third party interest of a few; it won’t be easy for any court to ignore third party interest of thousands. Therefore, the sooner we grow in numbers, the better for all of us. Its only few weeks before the hearing starts in the court. YERWA should not be seen representing few dozens. We should be representing few thousands. That’s what will make the real difference. Not only media and political parties take note of us… but the courts too won’t be able to ignore third party interest of thousands.

 

So, first and foremost we need MAXIMUM number of MEMBERS. The more the merrier. Secondly, we need people who can contribute and contribute actively and positively. Those who have the will, contacts, time and resources. Any and all of these would do. Also, we need people for both, online activities and offline activities. Thirdly we need the money to run the association (minor concern) and fight the cases (immediate and major concern). We all know nothing comes for free. Sitting in Delhi and fighting a legal battle in Allahabad High Court is not going to be easy and not going to be cheap. We need money to hire a good lawyer to represent our case in strongest possible manner. We would also need to consult legal experts on regular basis till the case reaches a conclusion.

 

Now is the time for ALL OF US to unite and set an example for the rest of the society. This crisis is an opportunity to demonstrate how an online social blog can create a momentum and make a real difference. We don’t know yet… but maybe… MAYBE we are on course of creating history… or maybe not. Who is to know?

 

Lastly, I repeat the question I asked earlier: What do you want to do? Do you want to sleep over it and let your hard earned money go to waste? Do you want to for someone else to do you a favour and fight for your rights?

 

Now is the time to walk the talk.

 

I appeal every individual… to not only become a member oneself… but also to inspire and encourage others you know who own a property in Sector 18 & Sector 20.

 

Warm Regards,

 

Safal Suri

 

 

Disclaimer: These are my personal views. All figures provided are in good understanding and good faith. Please do not hold me responsible for any mistakes. None is intended.

 

Naveen Deep Sharma

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Nov 4, 2011, 1:33:43 AM11/4/11
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Dear Safal
 
History is full of examples where individual prejudices and petty interests of few has caused the bigger loss to societies.
 
Even nations had to suffer long term civil wars owing to petty interest of leaders.
 
Your numbers need not to be precise and judgement need not to be highly accurate.
 
It is the fact that Yamuna Expressway is heading Noida Extension way.
 
Many may disagree , but i remember no one was talking about risk of GN plots 6 - 8 months back. Even if some one asked me about any such risk i chose to ignore. Today i can clearly see similar type of decision coming for Yamuna Expressway as it was GN / NE
 
NE could be saved because of huge money at stake of builders.
 
Courts decision itself mentions the number of flats / allotees.
 
We have to fight and make our presense felt to save our investments.
 
I think this is the time we should also go for print media ( provided we have enough money) to advertise association.
 
each member of forum must atleast encourage two non members to join Yeida and YERWA , asap
 
lets act b4 its too late
 
naveen


 
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sumit vohra

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Nov 4, 2011, 1:39:58 AM11/4/11
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Dear Safal

If required we  are ready to pay more for  yearly membership also but getting more members is equally important ASAP !!
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amar sarin

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Nov 4, 2011, 2:16:25 AM11/4/11
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Dear Safal ji,
 
Since long,I was not aware of the conversation and the posts of the YEIDA Group, and thereby I could not get to know much about the happenings and the related issues.
Again tomorrow I am travelling out of India for 1 weak and therefore would not be accessing to my mails. Need to know from you that what has to be done for becoming the member of the association and to represent our case strongly in front of the court (if required). I have already given the Plot details earlier.
Pls let me know of further action from my side for the benefit of our plots.
 
Look forward for your Reply asap.
 
Regards
Amar Sarin
9871232659

Naveen Deep Sharma

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Nov 4, 2011, 2:21:40 AM11/4/11
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Dear Mr. Amar
 
I have enclosed the membership application form, which is self explanatory
 
please fill the form along with cheque / on line NEFT / RGTS transaction etc and post it
 
you may contact me / safal or any one of mc / moderators if u need any further assistance
 
Regards
 
Naveen
 
FINAL - YERWA Membership Application Form.pdf

amar sarin

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:09:38 AM11/4/11
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Dear Neveen,
Thanks for the Info,
Just a query...
The Plot is in my father's name as he has purchased it on premium.But on his behalf I would be taking the membership on my name...so what i understand looking at the Application form is
Personal details are my Father's Details & he would be signing at the Applicants signature Coloumn or I can sign on his behalf.
Nomination Details are Mine...
 
Pls correct if i am wrong...
 
The Intent is Ultimately ,I have the responsibility of this plot on his behalf, so accordingly I'll fill the form and take the membership.
 
Thanks & Regards
Amar Sarin

Naveen Deep Sharma

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:24:16 AM11/4/11
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Dear amar
 
Since applicant is your father and you are the authorised nominee , so at page 7, your fathers signature will be there.
 
Regards
 
Naveen

pawanba...@gmail.com

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Nov 4, 2011, 3:38:29 AM11/4/11
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I totally agree with Safalji on the matter from my end I have contacted property brokers I know and ve requested them to approach all their clients whom they ve sold YEA plots to become members of our assoc asap. Rest whatever else is needed fm our individual end we can finalise on our Sun meeting. Regards, Pawan
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Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 12:54:16 +0530
Subject: Re: [YEIDA:19420] : Unite or perish... ITS NOW OR NEVER!!!

Nitin Gupta

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Nov 4, 2011, 8:01:41 AM11/4/11
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Dear Safal Ji..

Thanks for the detailed info and sincere efforts you are making. We
all are with you to strengthen your hands.

Apart from that some gentleman wrote a post related to builders and
under construction/ready for posession buildings (Not in Context of
YEA) , but still valuable so sharing it for all.

http://www.indianrealestateforum.com/119235-post25.html

Thanks,
Nitin

On Nov 4, 10:01 am, "Safal Suri" <safals...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All… !
>
> Early in days Sanjay Gandhi realized the growing need for a dedicated industrial township in close proximity to Delhi. At that time, the concept of NCR (National Capital Region) was, well, just a concept. A new city south-east of Delhi, called New Okhla Industrial Development Area (NOIDA) came into administrative existence during emergency period of 1975-1977, on 17th April, 1976. Formed under Uttar Pradesh Industrial Development Act, all land acquisitions since the very first day of it’s inception, each and every inch of it, till date, has been done under Section 17(1) and 17(4), using urgency and public good clause.
>
> Same is the case with Greater Noida Industrial Development Area (GNIDA), popularly referred to Greater Noida, which came into existence on 30th January 1991. All land acquisitions in Greater Noida, similar to Noida, took place under Section 17(1) and 17(4), using urgency and public good clause.
>
> The third and last city in Dist. Gautam Budh Nagar, known as Yamuna Expressway Industrial Development Area (YEIDA), formed on 24.04.2001 as Taj Expressway Industrial Development Area. Later the name was changed to Yamuna Expressway Industrial Development Area on 11.07.2008. All land acquisitions in this city… similar to it’s two sisters cities, Noida and Greater Noida…. took place under Section 17(1) and 17(4), using urgency and public good clause.
>
> To sum up… for the last 35 years… all subsequent governments have acquired land in this area using urgency and public good clause. All three cities were primarily established to encourage industrial activities, but somewhere down the road, the focused was lost and the prime objective has now changed to… establish financially lucrative residential areas. Its unfortunate, but true.
>
> Recent couple of years… in fact last 6-8 months… have witnessed humongous protests from farmers whose land has been acquired over the years. There are many angles to these protests. It stands true that the farmers have genuine concerns/grievances and their land is being snatched by the state against their will. At the same time… it is also true, that the growing income/asset disparities are finally beginning to display it’s ugly head. Then there is the third angle… the political angle. With upcoming state elections, every political party is desperate to rake up any and every possible issue to dethrone reining government. Some issues raised by farmers are genuine… standing long un-addressed and ignored by all subsequent governments… where as some issues are being fabricated and farmers are encouraged to file lawsuits to gain political mileage. Again unfortunate, but that’s India. That’s the way we do things and everyone accepts without protest. My honest worry… at the end of the day… when the political dust settles… farmers from all spectrums of political alliances… will be left high and dry… and this short lived limelight will leave them in worse position.
>
> Similar to every other sectors/areas in Noida and Greater Noida, the land acquired for Sector 18 and Sector 20 at YEIDA was done using Section 17, more specifically Sections 17(1) and 17(4). Even though karar niyamavali (mutual agreement) was used to acquire a significant portion of land… not all land was acquired under the system and hence, 2,500 hectares of land in both sectors was acquired under dozens of different notifications. Even today, there remains small patches of land, within both the sectors, that is still to be acquired. Most of these patches of land are in periphery of villages, disputed and demanded by villages under abadi.
>
> Even though the vast portion of Sector 18 & Sector 20 is still under active cultivation by farmers who owned the land till the authority acquired it… a vast majority of land is under authority’s possession… at least on paper. Sector dividing roads are being constructed in a hurry and most of the ground laying work is complete. I’m informed that sewer (pipes) laying work has also started. Over all, even though most land is still under cultivation, the development work has already started and is underway.
>
> Some people are under impression that the villagers in both the sectors have recently approached the courts to either demand enhanced compensation or reclaim their land. That’s not true. The cases started getting filed even before the scheme was declared in early 2008. When the draw took place in October and November of 2008, only about half of the land was acquired. Rest of the land got acquired, under various notifications, in the leading months. To the best of my knowledge 90%+ land has been acquired and 85%+ villager’s have claimed/accepted compensation so far.
>
> Over and above than genuine grievances… backed by political support and inspired by natural greed… residents of 30+ villages on Yamuna Expressway, between Dankaur and Jewar, have recently approached Allahabad High Court demanding enhanced compensation or return of their land. Some of these villages are in Sector 18 and Sector 20.
>
> I’m informed by lawyers and media people that even though a vast majority of farmers at YEIDA are seeking parity in compensation rates with those in Noida and Greater Noida… some farmers are beginning to demand return of their land and have vowed to accept nothing less than that. It is still unknown who is demanding what in which sector. As we discuss the matter, increasing number of cases are being filed at Allahabad High Court by the farmers. I was informed yesterday night by a friend in media at Lucknow that roughly 5 odd dozen cases were filled in last 4 days alone.
>
> Speaking of number of cases… to be honest, it really doesn’t matter how many farmers seek justice from the court of law. A case filled by one farmer is as good by cases by the entire village. The court has recently set precedence by cancelling land acquisition notification at Shahberi village at Noida Extension on hearing of a case filled by a single villager. So, in essence, a single case is as important as many. Anyhow, the point here is… we like it or not… we are now aware and sure that… the cases have been filled by villagers of Sector 18 and Sector 20… either claiming enhanced compensation or return of their land (not sure of that, yet). What do we do?
>
> Apparently we have two choices. First… we take a back seat, sit and watch the entire drama unfold and let SOMEONE ELSE fight it out. Two… we take the threat seriously and do something about it. What do you think we should do?
>
> Should we sleep over it and let our hard earned money go to waste?
>
> Should we wait for someone else to do us a favour and fight for our rights?
>
> Should we act miser, both in terms of efforts and money, and save few hours and few thousands that we can?
>
> WHAT SHOULD WE DO?
>
> Well… that maybe a wrong question in the first place. Before we ask, what should we do… what needs to be asked is… WHAT SHOULD I DO? Each one of us needs to answer this question for himself/herself. What do you want to do?
>
> Well some of us have already asked ourselves and answered the question. Some of us have decided to unite, pool in our resources… in terms of knowledge, contacts, efforts and money… and stand up for our rights and fight/defend ourselves and our interest.
>
> We did nothing wrong. We didn’t lie. We didn’t cheat anyone. We participated in open for all scheme offered by the government of the day. We played by the rules. Rules which we didn’t create at the first place. Rules which were, till now, supposed to be correct and lawful. So then… WHY SHOULD WE SUFFER?
>
> It is not just the money at stake here. There is a lot more. There are 21,000 owners. Each has his/her own calculation. Each has a different stake. For some this is the only property they own. For some this will be the only property they will ever own. Some took a bank loan. Some had to break fixed deposit in the bank, while some even scarified the sanctity of a provident fund. But, its not just the money that’s at stake. It is also peace of mind. It is everyday tension and worry about what’s going to happen. It is our future at stake. This uncertainty, anxiety and insecurity will not only affect us financially, but may also affect mentally.
>
> I remember a few days back someone wrote negative comments about YERWA as an association. Well, keeping individual freedom in mind, I welcome any and all criticism. That’s how someone thinks and so be it. It’s his/her thoughts. I think the other way. For me, glass is already half full and all it needs is another half a glass of water. I believe anyone of us… any single person… has the ability to fill the other half. No doubting human courage and strength. However, I also believe that it will be quicker and easier if we all walk together. Therefore, in my view, we need to ignore such characters and chart our own path.
>
> There is an old Chinese saying: “Every crisis is an opportunity”… Barrack Obama improvised on it and said “Every crisis is a terrible opportunity to waste”… Let me add my very own observation/belief… “Every crisis is like a high tide… those who learn to swim… survive… those who stand and wait… are drowned”. We have done enough talking. Its time we act. Its time we swim… together.
>
> What we need right now is the… numbers. We just don’t need the numbers… we desperately need numbers. There are 21,000 allottee. We should AT LEAST be 10% for any court to take a serious note of us. Although the numbers is not a pre-requirement I am told by quite a few senior lawyers that at the end of the day, numbers do make a difference. It is easy to any court to ignore a third party interest of a few; it won’t be easy for any court to ignore third party interest of thousands. Therefore, the sooner we grow in numbers, the better for all of us. Its only few weeks before the hearing starts ...
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