Since starting today the new price for (gold-) subscription is in
effect - can anybody from Autodesk comment on why there is no silver
subscription for Softimage?
We were told the price increase was about levelling XSI with the other
products.
If that is the case, why not go all the way and also offer silver support?
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Matt Morris
Sent: August-01-11 9:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Silver Subscription for Softimage?
I'd like to know this too. If there isn't going to be a silver subscription then who can we write/complain to that can make a difference?
On 1 August 2011 14:34, Thomas Helzle <thomas...@gmail.com<mailto:thomas...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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Since starting today the new price for (gold-) subscription is in
effect - can anybody from Autodesk comment on why there is no silver
subscription for Softimage?
We were told the price increase was about levelling XSI with the other
products.
If that is the case, why not go all the way and also offer silver support?
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
Thanks and cheers and back to learning Blender ;-)
Thomas Helzle
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Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
Yes, it does ;-)
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
well, so far all people from Autodesk seem to be either as puzzled as
the user or doing their best to avoid the issue somehow. Graham said
he escalated it internally and there may or may not come something out
of it... :-(
So I guess it depends on everybodys feeling towards the issue - there
is no "too early" IMO, only a "too late".
I suspect many people will only find out about the price change when
their subscription is running out the next time...
So count me in.
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
There doesn't seem to be an option for regular subscription or
Platinum subscription.
Interestingly, the Autodesk(AD) website asks users to refer to their
local resellers for more info regarding subscription; the local
reseller lists the purchase options and an AD PDF as their 'more
info'. This PDF refers back to the AD website for more info. An ad
absurdum loop of 'more info'?
Stuck in a loop,
Sajjad
--
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"Consistency is the last resort of the unimaginative" - O. Wilde
Cheers,
Sajjad
Cheers,
Sajjad
--
I was never a big fan of the old Softimage company either, but at
least you could usually find somebody with a say in a certain matter
if you were insisting.
All the AD resellers I ever met don't give a used hanky about what
customers may want or need as long as they get their share - and they
don't have much of a say anyway. They are a redundant intermediate
stage - I could just buy my software or subscription from any webshop
without any real difference. But it's a nice way to prevent
competition.
One of the german Resellers is even trying to sell me his own
"12-month-support" on top of the gold subscription.
250.- Euro a year for stuff that's basically already part of gold...
It always comes down to "The Corporation": Each individual may be the
nicest person on earth, but as an employee of a big corporation, they
are non-entities, argue in circles without any real meat (they don't
have a say anyway and are bound by big fat NDAs I guess) and even
argue about stuff that is simply retarded if you happen to live in the
real world.
So back to the original question: What can be done about silver subscription?
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
Cheers,
Sajjad
Let's see what it's really going to be when I've got to renew it.
But true, it's really annoying not having prices written down for good on
Autodesk website and instead have to find things out through comments from
other users.
Thierry
you may like to give www.weltenbauer.com in Wiesbaden a try.
They have been very helpful to me in the past and are
willing to check for the best options, be it license
upgrades, crossgrades or promotions offers.
Cheers,
tim
--
Christopher Tedin
I guess everybody would be happy to stay on gold, but if the price
goes up to 146% as it did now with no alternatives and no explanation,
then support may be as good as it may be, it's just too much (and I'm
sure many people like me don't really use support much anyway).
But let me set this straight: This is NOT originally a request for
silver subscription, but for keeping reasonable prices.
If the price goes up like that on gold, many people prefer silver
support over dropping subscription altogether.
So just for the record: it is NOT the case that users demand silver
support out of their ignorance on the qualities of XSI support.
But Autodesk forced a massive price increase on us Europeans out of
thin air and the request for silver support is the alternative that
most people see as more probable happening than Autodesk dropping the
price back to what it was - which would be what most people would
prefer, I assure you.
And let me tell you what I would REALLY like: Going back to a
reasonable priced update-model where everybody can decide himself when
to update. And buying support as one needs it.
This is what works very well for me with all other software I use and
allows the user to vote with his wallet if he thinks a certain update
or direction makes sense for him - or not.
I hate subscription with all my heart, especially the Autodesk -
holding a smoking gun to your head - version of it. No questions
there.
So I don't want an AD representative to run around later telling
people they "demanded" silver subscription and how bad that is and how
ignorant they all are and that it's their own fault...
Cheers,
Thomas Helzle
Cheers,
Thomas
Found this http://vimeo.com/23636472
Way cool and impressive, I mean the 2D getting in the hardbodies and
collision stuff...
Thanks and cheers,
Thomas Helzle
Carpe Diem,
Thomas