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Szabolcs Matefy  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 3:20 am
From: Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:20:43 +0200
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 3:20 am
Subject: Boolean

Hey folks,

I'm looking for a free Boolean solution. I have seen ImplosiaFX
GigaBoolean, and I love it when it works. However, in Demo mode, it
always crashes, even when a single sphere and cylinder is to be
united...

So is there any normal Boolean solution for Softimage besides the
built-in?

Cheers

Szabolcs

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Stephen Davidson  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 1:28 pm
From: Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:28:46 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

I was trying to find the same thing and found BoolTrace which is part of
the Binary Iris addon.
This is supposed to do boolean functions on solid models, at render time,
though the use of it as a shader.

It was tough to find as Binary Iris seems to have gone away. I found id it
via the wayback machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20080627113211/http://binaryiris.com/main/...

However, I could not get this to work in 2013 SP1. The render seems to
break after installing
the addon. If anyone has a better solution for Booleans in Softimage, it
would be appreciated.
Any modeling compounds in ICE, maybe? I searched the Area, but didn't find
anything.

I did see a post on using a transparent plane, that has the primary rays
turned off, but I haven't tried that yet.

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Ben Houston  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 1:41 pm
From: Ben Houston <b...@exocortex.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:41:19 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 1:41 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean
We should look into the ImplosiaFX solution.  It actually can do very
nice booleans normally with UVs and Clusters and all that even with
complex geometry.
-ben

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Alan Fregtman  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 3:46 pm
From: Alan Fregtman <alan.fregt...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:46:50 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 3:46 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

I got it working in 2012 with some tinkering. Probably the same process to
make it work in 2013.

I had to regenerate the presets or something like that. I'll check when I
have some proper free time.

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Len Krenzler  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 3:51 pm
From: Len Krenzler <l...@creativecontrol.ca>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 13:51:27 -0600
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 3:51 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean
If you're OK with booleans at render time then 3Delight does a nice job
of that.  Might be worth looking into, the trial (2core) is free.

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Stephen Davidson  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 8:22 pm
From: Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:22:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Boolean

The problem I had, in the past, with using 3Delight is that it changes the
texture mapping and overall look of the render.
Also, I couldn't get multiple clusters with multiple materials to work,
which I use a lot. I did try it several years ago, though.
Anyone using 3Delight, currently, that can verify if these issues have been
addressed?

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Stephen Davidson  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 8:24 pm
From: Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:24:25 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 8:24 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

Thanks, Alan. I did try to regenerate the preset, but I didn't know what I
was doing, so I may have messed that up.
It seemed to break the entire render, so I just uninstalled Binary Iris to
get my render back.

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Stephen Davidson  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 8:26 pm
From: Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:26:57 -0400
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 8:26 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

I understand that ImplosiaFX does have a Boolean function that puts the
regular Boolean
function, in Softimage, to shame. The price of the license made it an
overkill for me.
Too bad they don't just sell the Boolean function. :)

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Ben Rogall  
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 More options Jun 26 2012, 9:53 pm
From: Ben Rogall <XSI_l...@shaders.moederogall.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:53:51 -0500
Local: Tues, Jun 26 2012 9:53 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

I thought the Implosia boolean function was free. It's based on the
Carve CSG library, as per this discussion:

http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2159

The Carve library is here: http://code.google.com/p/carve/
I once wrapped it in an ICE node myself but I never released it because
someone else already had. Anyway, I found I got better boolean results
using 3Delight's CSG attributes on the project I needed it on. The one
drawback I ran into with 3Delight was that I couldn't use SSS, because
the SSS point cloud was calculated before the CSG operation.

Ben

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Szabolcs Matefy  
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 More options Jun 27 2012, 3:03 am
From: "Szabolcs Matefy" <szabol...@crytek.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:03:28 +0200
Local: Wed, Jun 27 2012 3:03 am
Subject: RE: Boolean

I returned to the free (1.1) version of ImplosiaFX. I think that Boolean is so important, and I think Softimage should buy this awesome ubercool etc tool to include it in regular Softimage.

Cheers

Szabolcs

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To: softim...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: Boolean

I thought the Implosia boolean function was free. It's based on the Carve CSG library, as per this discussion:

http://www.si-community.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2159

The Carve library is here: http://code.google.com/p/carve/
I once wrapped it in an ICE node myself but I never released it because someone else already had. Anyway, I found I got better boolean results using 3Delight's CSG attributes on the project I needed it on. The one drawback I ran into with 3Delight was that I couldn't use SSS, because the SSS point cloud was calculated before the CSG operation.

Ben

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        I understand that ImplosiaFX does have a Boolean function that puts the regular Boolean

        function, in Softimage, to shame. The price of the license made it an overkill for me.

        Too bad they don't just sell the Boolean function. :)

        On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Ben Houston <b...@exocortex.com> wrote:

        We should look into the ImplosiaFX solution.  It actually can do very
        nice booleans normally with UVs and Clusters and all that even with
        complex geometry.
        -ben

        On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:20 AM, Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com> wrote:

        > Hey folks,
        >
        >
        >
        > I'm looking for a free Boolean solution. I have seen ImplosiaFX GigaBoolean,
        > and I love it when it works. However, in Demo mode, it always crashes, even
        > when a single sphere and cylinder is to be united...
        >
        >
        >
        > So is there any normal Boolean solution for Softimage besides the built-in?
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Cheers
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Szabolcs
        >
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Ben Houston  
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 More options Jun 27 2012, 8:30 am
From: Ben Houston <b...@exocortex.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 08:30:04 -0400
Local: Wed, Jun 27 2012 8:30 am
Subject: Re: Boolean

Hi Szabolcs,

I just re-downloaded the released version of ImplosiaFX (which was released
back in February), installed it fresh and then created a sphere and a
cylinder mesh in Softimage 2013 and then applied the IFX boolean operation
and it worked immediately without error.

I believe you likely have an installation issue on your machine, it may be
that multiple different versions of ImplosiaFX are conflicting with each
other.  This would explain why in another post of yours you said that
ImplosiaFX was complaining about missing ICE ports.

I am willing to do a Skype screenshare with you later today to help
diagnose the installation issue, I am ben.exocortex on Skype.

Best regards,
Ben Houston

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 More options Jun 27 2012, 10:20 am
From: Stephen Davidson <magic...@bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 10:20:56 -0400
Local: Wed, Jun 27 2012 10:20 am
Subject: Re: Boolean

Thanks, I will try the "free" version 1.1. BTW, I just noticed that a
single node locked licence is $249, but a site license
is $2499. I was assuming I would have to buy a site license, since I have
multiple render machines, networked. (16 cores),
but maybe not. I agree that Softimage should buy this technology, and
include it with the software, since the included
Boolean function is, and always has been, very "buggy", specially if you
are animating the Boolean.

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Ben Houston  
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 More options Jun 27 2012, 12:47 pm
From: Ben Houston <b...@exocortex.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 12:47:45 -0400
Local: Wed, Jun 27 2012 12:47 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

Hi Stephen,

I do think there is an opportunity for just a Boolean tool priced somewhere
around $99 with a site license priced at $499?  I believe we should
follow-up on this opportunity if Softimage isn't interested in licensing
the technology (which would be great!)

If you need to do an animated boolean, I'd suggest caching the results
rather than computing them on the fly using a technology like Alembic to
ensure consistent results.  With Alembic caching you can really reduce your
investment in specialized plugins (it caches Momentum and Polygonizer as
well) and it also reduces risk of plug-ins behaving differently on
different machines.  Alembic is also priced to allow for easy deployment to
the render farm.

Best regards,
Ben Houston

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 More options Jun 27 2012, 1:17 pm
From: Len Krenzler <l...@creativecontrol.ca>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 11:17:06 -0600
Local: Wed, Jun 27 2012 1:17 pm
Subject: Re: Boolean

I think it's gotten a lot better, however, according to the forum it may
not work on 2013.  I've only used it a little so I'm not sure how much
of that has been addressed but the tests I did seemed a pretty close
match for most materials as far as look.  Only testing your scene will
tell I guess.  The booleans looked great with nice clean edges on sub-d
objects.  Probably a better result visually than trying to boolean your
object geometry unless you use extremely high poly counts and then you
know how unstable that is.

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