CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:06:00 AM6/11/11

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Is anyone else experiencing this? If I select a pass, hit CTRL-D, it duplicates the pass but the pass doesn't show up in the explorer and is not selectable from the Pass list. However I can see it in the Keying panel.

Selecting the pass and doing Edit - Duplicate Current Pass works fine.

So - Select a pass, hit CTRL-D - nothing shows up. Go to Pass-Edit-Duplicate Current Pass and you'll suddenly get Pass2 instead of Pass1.

The hidden pass can't be selected, so you can't delete it.

Paul

Stephen Blair

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:20:28 AM6/11/11

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Can it be that the explorer is not refreshing, see that sometimes (but not your specific situation)
Press F5 in the explorer

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:29:02 AM6/11/11

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Nope that's not it. The duplicated pass doesn't show up anywhere. However, if I try to create a new pass with the same name as the hidden duplicate, it gets renamed with the additional 1 on the end. If I try "SelectObj("Passes.DuplicatedPass", null, null);" as a script, it gives "Invalid procedure call or argument" as the error, but if I try the same script with a layer that's visible in the explorer, it works as expected.

Alok Gandhi

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:40:27 AM6/11/11

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Did you try saving the scene and reopening ?

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:56:22 AM6/11/11

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Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

Jason Brynford-Jones

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Jun 11, 2011, 12:17:58 PM6/11/11

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Check your duplicate options as changing the parent duplication option might break the pass

Chin

On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:56 AM, "Paul Griswold" <pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Alok Gandhi <<mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com>alok.ga...@gmail.com<mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Did you try saving the scene and reopening ?

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On 2011-06-11, at 9:29 AM, Paul Griswold <<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Stephen Blair <<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com><mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Can it be that the explorer is not refreshing, see that sometimes (but not your specific situation)
Press F5 in the explorer

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 11, 2011, 3:39:28 PM6/11/11

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Where do passes fit within the Duplicate options? I don't see anything that looks unusual.

My options are set to:

None

Extrude

Copy

Copy animation and Share mixer sources

Copy & Share Input

Only if selected

Duplicates Only

Apply/Repeat Xform

AFAIK I'm still using the factory settings.

Thanks!

Paul

Stephen Blair

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Jun 11, 2011, 5:25:21 PM6/11/11

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What's logged when you duplicate a pass?
Does this happen with any pass? In any scene?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: June-11-11 3:39 PM
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Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Where do passes fit within the Duplicate options? I don't see anything that looks unusual.
My options are set to:

None
Extrude
Copy
Copy
Copy animation and Share mixer sources
Copy & Share Input
Only if selected
Duplicates Only
Apply/Repeat Xform

AFAIK I'm still using the factory settings.

Thanks!

Paul

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jason Brynford-Jones <Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com<mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Check your duplicate options as changing the parent duplication option might break the pass

Chin

Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Alok Gandhi <<mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com<mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com>>alok.ga...@gmail.com<mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com><mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com<mailto:alok.ga...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
Did you try saving the scene and reopening ?

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-06-11, at 9:29 AM, Paul Griswold <<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>>pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com><mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com<mailto:pgri...@fusiondigitalproductions.com>>> wrote:

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:20 AM, Stephen Blair <<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>><mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>>Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com><mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>>> wrote:
Can it be that the explorer is not refreshing, see that sometimes (but not your specific situation)
Press F5 in the explorer

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 11, 2011, 5:31:19 PM6/11/11

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It happens in any scene I try. Here's what I get when I hit CTRL-D after selecting a pass in the Explorer:

SelectObj("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, null);

Duplicate("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But there is no Passes.SC1_Moon1 anywhere. However, if I go to Pass-Duplicate Current Pass, I will get SC1_Moon2.

Weird huh?

Paul

Luc-Eric Rousseau

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Jun 11, 2011, 8:07:40 PM6/11/11

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could be a filter on the Scene Explorer that hides it.

First try on the Select Panel, click "Explorer", pick "Passes" under "Scene"

Is it there?

If still no, try temporary renaming your user preference folder to reset back to default

Paul Griswold

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Jun 11, 2011, 9:05:41 PM6/11/11

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Yeah I've checked that too. The pass exists, but it's nowhere to be found.

I'll do the user prefs thing next, but at the moment I'm working over the weekend to try to hit a deadline so I'm probably not going to mess with it right away.

Thanks!

Paul

Jason Brynford-Jones

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:17:57 AM6/13/11

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What is logged when you duplicate using the menu entry?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:31 PM
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Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

It happens in any scene I try. Here's what I get when I hit CTRL-D after selecting a pass in the Explorer:

SelectObj("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But there is no Passes.SC1_Moon1 anywhere. However, if I go to Pass-Duplicate Current Pass, I will get SC1_Moon2.

Weird huh?

Paul

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Stephen Blair <Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
What's logged when you duplicate a pass?
Does this happen with any pass? In any scene?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: June-11-11 3:39 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Where do passes fit within the Duplicate options? I don't see anything that looks unusual.
My options are set to:

None
Extrude
Copy
Copy
Copy animation and Share mixer sources
Copy & Share Input
Only if selected
Duplicates Only
Apply/Repeat Xform

AFAIK I'm still using the factory settings.

Thanks!

Paul

Chin

Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:29:51 AM6/13/11

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Interesting - it's different. Here's what I get:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass", null, null);

Duplicate("Passes.Current");

Jason Brynford-Jones

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:36:10 AM6/13/11

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Hmm

And what happens if you duplicate a pass which is not the current pass, what is logged then?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:30 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Interesting - it's different. Here's what I get:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.Current");

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jason Brynford-Jones <Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com<mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
What is logged when you duplicate using the menu entry?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:31 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1
It happens in any scene I try. Here's what I get when I hit CTRL-D after selecting a pass in the Explorer:

SelectObj("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But there is no Passes.SC1_Moon1 anywhere. However, if I go to Pass-Duplicate Current Pass, I will get SC1_Moon2.

Weird huh?

Paul

Sent: June-11-11 3:39 PM

To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com><mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>>

Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Where do passes fit within the Duplicate options? I don't see anything that looks unusual.
My options are set to:

None
Extrude
Copy
Copy
Copy animation and Share mixer sources
Copy & Share Input
Only if selected
Duplicates Only
Apply/Repeat Xform

AFAIK I'm still using the factory settings.

Thanks!

Paul

Chin

Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:38:54 AM6/13/11

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Keep it inactive, select it in Explorer and then CTRL-D gives this:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass2", null, null);

Duplicate("Passes.Default_Pass2", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But no pass is created.

I also tried duplicating it from within the Render Manager, and got the same result.

Paul

Jason Brynford-Jones

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:43:20 AM6/13/11

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OK the same result as before then..hmmm

One final question - do you have any plugin events active?
File>Plugin Manager>click on the events tab
Click on filter and turn on all user and workgroups

Chin

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:39 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Keep it inactive, select it in Explorer and then CTRL-D gives this:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass2", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.Default_Pass2", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But no pass is created.

I also tried duplicating it from within the Render Manager, and got the same result.

Paul

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Jason Brynford-Jones <Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com<mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Hmm

And what happens if you duplicate a pass which is not the current pass, what is logged then?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:30 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1
Interesting - it's different. Here's what I get:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.Current");

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Jason Brynford-Jones <Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com<mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com><mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com<mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com>>> wrote:
What is logged when you duplicate using the menu entry?

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:31 PM

To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com><mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

It happens in any scene I try. Here's what I get when I hit CTRL-D after selecting a pass in the Explorer:

SelectObj("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But there is no Passes.SC1_Moon1 anywhere. However, if I go to Pass-Duplicate Current Pass, I will get SC1_Moon2.

Weird huh?

Paul

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Stephen Blair <Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com><mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>><mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com><mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com<mailto:Stephe...@autodesk.com>>>> wrote:
What's logged when you duplicate a pass?
Does this happen with any pass? In any scene?

Sent: June-11-11 3:39 PM

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Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Where do passes fit within the Duplicate options? I don't see anything that looks unusual.
My options are set to:

None
Extrude
Copy
Copy
Copy animation and Share mixer sources
Copy & Share Input
Only if selected
Duplicates Only
Apply/Repeat Xform

AFAIK I'm still using the factory settings.

Thanks!

Paul

Chin

Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

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Stephen Blair

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:43:35 AM6/13/11

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The problem is the 4th argument to Duplicate.
Your Duplicate command is creating a pass with no parent.

In your Duplicate options, change it to Share Parent.

// Create a pass with no parent
var x = Duplicate("Passes.Default_Pass", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);
LogMessage( x.Count );
LogMessage( x(0).FullName );
InspectObj( x(0) );

// Share parent
Duplicate("Passes.Default_Pass", null, 2, 1, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: June-13-11 10:39 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Keep it inactive, select it in Explorer and then CTRL-D gives this:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass2", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.Default_Pass2", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But no pass is created.

I also tried duplicating it from within the Render Manager, and got the same result.

Paul

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Jason Brynford-Jones <Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com<mailto:Jason.Bryn...@autodesk.com>> wrote:
Hmm

And what happens if you duplicate a pass which is not the current pass, what is logged then?

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com>] On Behalf Of Paul Griswold
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:30 AM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1
Interesting - it's different. Here's what I get:

SelectObj("Passes.Default_Pass", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.Current");

Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 5:31 PM

To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com><mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:soft...@listproc.autodesk.com>>
Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

It happens in any scene I try. Here's what I get when I hit CTRL-D after selecting a pass in the Explorer:

SelectObj("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, null);
Duplicate("Passes.SC1_Moon", null, 2, 0, 1, 0, 0, 1, 0, 1, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, null, 0);

But there is no Passes.SC1_Moon1 anywhere. However, if I go to Pass-Duplicate Current Pass, I will get SC1_Moon2.

Weird huh?

Paul

Sent: June-11-11 3:39 PM

Subject: Re: CTRL-D a pass broken in SP1

Where do passes fit within the Duplicate options? I don't see anything that looks unusual.
My options are set to:

None
Extrude
Copy
Copy
Copy animation and Share mixer sources
Copy & Share Input
Only if selected
Duplicates Only
Apply/Repeat Xform

AFAIK I'm still using the factory settings.

Thanks!

Paul

Chin

Yeah - if I save and re-open, then the pass is actually gone. So I then can rename DuplicatePass1 to DuplicatePass.

What's weirder is, the CTRL-D issue only affects passes. I can duplicate objects no problem.

Paul

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Paul Griswold

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Jun 13, 2011, 10:49:37 AM6/13/11

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Steve wins the prize of the day.

Share parent is the issue.

Thank you! Man that was driving me nuts. Is that something that can be fixed in Soft - so passes always are duplicated with share parent on?

Paul

Gene Crucean

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Jun 13, 2011, 12:21:47 PM6/13/11

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Actually Jason won that one back on the 11th ;)

It's an option in the prefs.

Prefs > Commands > Duplicate Options > Hierarchy