LEGO - the Movie Trailer

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Well, trailer's out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPnY2NjSjrg

Animal Logic, so layout, rigging and animation are Softimage.

Still in production.

[Eric Thivierge]

Looking crazy good Raf! Great job!

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[Xavier Lapointe]

:D

[Jack Kao]

LOVE the animation style!

[Christopher]

Interesting, why they choose to mash all hero characters into a
storyline, I'm sure they could have though of something else, Que Sera Sera.

::Christopher::

[Christopher]

I meant "thought". Oh well.

[Edy Susanto Lim]

Looks great guys.. Wish I was there heheheh

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[Alan Fregtman]

Awesome work Raff & company! :D Looking forward to it.

[Ivan Tay]

Fantastic ! looking forward to watching it.

[Jeremie Passerin]

Woow Woow ! 

Thumb up to the Animals !

[Serguei Kalentchouk]

Great sharp look and appears to be loads of fun!

Well done AL!

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[olivier jeannel]

What about rendering ?

Le 19/06/2013 02:03, Raffaele Fragapane a �crit :

[Ahmidou Lyazidi]

I love the work of the lighting team here, it's all renderman

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2013/6/19 olivier jeannel <olivier...@noos.fr>

What about rendering ?

[Chris Chia]

Thanks for sharing Raffaele!

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Well, not quite, really :p Not any more than our assets are all Linux because it's the platform Softimage and Maya run on ;)

I don't think we can disclose yet though.

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[Chris Chia]

Arnold? ;)

From: softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:softimag...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Raffaele Fragapane

Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:27 PM
To: soft...@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: LEGO - the Movie Trailer

Well, not quite, really :p Not any more than our assets are all Linux because it's the platform Softimage and Maya run on ;)
I don't think we can disclose yet though.

On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Ahmidou Lyazidi <ahmid...@gmail.com<mailto:ahmid...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I love the work of the lighting team here, it's all renderman

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2013/6/19 olivier jeannel <olivier...@noos.fr<mailto:olivier...@noos.fr>>

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Nope, although plenty people in here are Arnold fans we haven't jumped on that bandwagon yet.

[Ahmidou Lyazidi]

Damn it, my bad :/

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2013/6/19 Chris Chia <chris...@autodesk.com>

[Eugen Sares]

Wow!!

I wonder how you pros did the "face rig"... you know, 2D vetor animation projected onto 3D -  a "classic" case for cartoony/abstract characters. Could you elaborate a bit, please?
Did you use some other software, or did you stay inside Softimage?
Because it would be possible for example to animate some curves with blend shapes and the mixer, render some 2D view of those and map this animation onto the faces.

Best regards and congratulations!
Eugen

[Chris Dawson]

Love it, I’m glad they’ve stuck to the design of the mini figs and not made them all bendy

 

 

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[Chris Dawson]

I second that, were the faces done with a “rig” 

 

 

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[Raffaele Fragapane]

The most effort intensive way you could possibly imagine :p

A custom renderman shader, with a custom OGL shader aligned, with a custom OGL manipulator for custom data driven by... customized curves. Per rig. Dozens of the F'in things. With wardrobes. And variations. For dozens of characters.

All with vector like operations like masking, bool in, bool out, exclude and so on set up for each rig.

Yeah they're a lot of "fun" to set up.

Ahmidou on this list was responsible for the the entire rigging/tools stretch of it (Softimage), OGL shader (always inside Soft) was Christian Breitling (but it might have passed other hands) in the animation department. The actual offline rendering I can't credit (don't remember who did it).

The animators are basically free to use basic controls, or go in and sketch point by point any expression they can come up with on the sorted rendering planes, vector art style.

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Above credits for dev. The actual rigs, as in setting them up, we all had to slog at one point or another. Mercifully enough only a few in my case, by the time I was done on the build API side of things (because the amount of rigs in this movie is staggering) they had dealt with most of it already.

[Ahmidou Lyazidi]

I couldn't have explained it better !

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2013/6/19 Raffaele Fragapane <raffsx...@googlemail.com>

[Marc-Andre Carbonneau]

When I saw they were releasing a movie I was scared to see the animated Lego stuff we see on TV(Ninjago) but I am very very surprised by the look!

The lighting and materials as well as the animation will make the kids believe these are real Legos coming to life. ;)

 

I’ll be going with my 5 years old who’s mad about Legos as soon as it comes out.

Good job guys!

MAC

[Eugen Sares]

What do you mean with "customized curves", and "vector-like operations like booleans", if I may ask? Real Nurbs-curve mangling in the 3D-scene?
If you did curve booleans already, I could spare me the effort and ask you for considering releasing them as an addon...
Cheers,
Eugen

[joshxsi]

The curves themselves are just standard bezier, the boolean operations happen at the shader level (XSI curves > points in space > vector curves > boolean ops > shader).

[Raffaele Fragapane]

Except for the custom data attached and the autohandling stuff ;)

[Benjamin Paschke]

My kids are going to go bananas over this! I can't wait to take them to
see it.
That's some great, rich lighting there. Looking forward to hearing some
more details about it.

benp

[Jordi Bares]

Looking great, I surely will take my kids too

Sent from my iPhone

[Eugen Sares]

It seems I can't find that shader folder... I suppose that's an addon you guys use?
Thanks anyway!

[Adam Sale]

that looks awesome Raff and Co.. Can't wait to check it out. 

[Ahmidou Lyazidi]

Hey Eugen
It's a custom shader developed for the movie and it's not a MR one. Any way it's very dependant on our pipeline and can't be used without it.

And about the realtime version, it's not very useful as it can't be rendered.

Cheers.
A.

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2013/6/20 Eugen Sares <sof...@mail.sprit.org>

[Raffaele Fragapane]

It's the OGL texture shader that rasterizes the vector operations we mentioned before.

It's propietary, much as the rest of the steps other than creating the base curves which is the only Vanilla Soft bit, so it's owned by AL and unlikely to ever be released to the public, sorry.

[Eugen Sares]

No problem. Thanks for the info!

In an ideal world the FXtree would get an overhaul... it does not deserve to be treated like legacy garbage.
Funny how much "vector paint" node can do already, including animation, but when it gets complex, it's not convenient any more.
There's so much you could add, e.g. it being able to derive curves from the scene via some camera link, mixer support, booleans, whatnot...
... just dreaming ...

[Stefan Kubicek]

For a start, it would be nice to be able to use Vector data fils as image input in Softimage:
Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib5sgkpXQ7k

>>>> <mailto:raffsx...@googlemail.com>>

>>>>
>>>> The most effort intensive way you could possibly imagine :p
>>>>
>>>> A custom renderman shader, with a custom OGL shader
>>>> aligned, with a custom OGL manipulator for custom data
>>>> driven by... customized curves. Per rig. Dozens of the
>>>> F'in things. With wardrobes. And variations. For dozens
>>>> of characters.
>>>> All with vector like operations like masking, bool in,
>>>> bool out, exclude and so on set up for each rig.
>>>> Yeah they're a lot of "fun" to set up.
>>>>
>>>> Ahmidou on this list was responsible for the the entire
>>>> rigging/tools stretch of it (Softimage), OGL shader
>>>> (always inside Soft) was Christian Breitling (but it
>>>> might have passed other hands) in the animation
>>>> department. The actual offline rendering I can't credit
>>>> (don't remember who did it).
>>>>
>>>> The animators are basically free to use basic controls,
>>>> or go in and sketch point by point any expression they
>>>> can come up with on the sorted rendering planes, vector
>>>> art style.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Eugen Sares

>>>> <sof...@mail.sprit.org <mailto:sof...@mail.sprit.org>>

>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Wow!!
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how you pros did the "face rig"... you
>>>> know, 2D vetor animation projected onto 3D - a
>>>> "classic" case for cartoony/abstract characters.
>>>> Could you elaborate a bit, please?
>>>> Did you use some other software, or did you stay
>>>> inside Softimage?
>>>> Because it would be possible for example to animate
>>>> some curves with blend shapes and the mixer, render
>>>> some 2D view of those and map this animation onto
>>>> the faces.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards and congratulations!
>>>> Eugen
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 19.06.2013 08:22, schrieb Serguei Kalentchouk:
>>>>> Great sharp look and appears to be loads of fun!
>>>>>
>>>>> Well done AL!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Jeremie Passerin

>>>>> <gere...@gmail.com <mailto:gere...@gmail.com>>

>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Woow Woow !
>>>>> Thumb up to the Animals !
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 June 2013 20:58, Ivan Tay
>>>>> <ivanso...@gmail.com

>>>>> <mailto:ivanso...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Fantastic ! looking forward to watching it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:03 AM, Raffaele
>>>>> Fragapane <raffsx...@googlemail.com

>>>>> <mailto:raffsx...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, trailer's out:
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPnY2NjSjrg
>>>>>
>>>>> Animal Logic, so layout, rigging and
>>>>> animation are Softimage.
>>>>> Still in production.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Technical Director @ DreamWorks Animation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Our users will know fear and cower before our software!
>>>> Ship it! Ship it and let them flee like the dogs they are!
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Christopher]

You wouldn't have to worry about resolution, hopefully :)

::Christopher::

[Eugen Sares]

Interesting! Max has a "vector map" shader node now. Nice.

The trick they seem to use is taking a big illustrator image with all
the face expressions, and in max animate the map's x postion on the head
via a custom parameter wired to an "attribute holder" modifier.
They don't really animate the vector shapes, just blend them.
Uaaa! Max' interface...

Anyway, one of the really cool thing about Max is it's support for all
the relevant file formats out there, Illustrator CS6 in this case.
Softimage's EPS importer supports Illustrator 8... how old is that one?
10 years?

[Stefan Kubicek]

Thats exactly the point. About ten years ago they added the ability to load Combustion files as texture maps, which can also contain vector data, but one had to specify the max. sampling resolution, and that wasn't animatable either.
I remember I was pretty excited until I found out about this caveat :-/

[Christopher]

Would be nice to have, and OpenEXR 2.0 support too, although what good
is 2.0 if the compositor can't accept it :(

[Sebastien Sterling]

layout Rigged animated in Softimage ... and they modeled it in maya... :P