Yes....feeling frustrated myself about these issues (see my recent post) and despite not speaking C (yet) or having any experience of compiling, I'm considering having a crack at it. My maths is ok, I've been writing Mandelbrot stuff in basic since the 80's (Atari - days to render a screen). First attempts to compile Xaos from source have been miserable failures, prob sthg obvious. My reason is I'm developing animations using Xaos as the engine and vb to generate xaf files, but the palette is almost uncontrollable
Geoff