Dakota and Minnesota Residents Should Bottle Their Excess Water
Cory Pchajek
> As the story went, the people in the Dakota's and Minnesota
> were not drinking enough water, God saw this and provided
> water in abundance. But then the people in the Dakotas and
> Minnesota thought they received too much water... but the
> water is a blessing, we should all thank God of the many things
> He gives us. What a friend we have in Jesus.
>
This is not true. Rivers are created through geological events that usually
take millions of years. God is an imaginary entity and nothing more.
CoryP
Ken Yost
I know I will mine.
Ken
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Cory Pchajek wrote:
::Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:30:10 -0500
::From: Cory Pchajek <umpc...@cc.umanitoba.ca>
::Newsgroups: wpg.general
::Subject: Re: Dakota and Minnesota Residents Should Bottle Their Excess
:: Water
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::> As the story went, the people in the Dakota's and Minnesota
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Corolla Guy
want to be *anywhere* for eternity. In fact, I think when I die, I'm
just gonna die and become worm food. It seems to have worked for the
billions of people who have died before me, or are they eternally
sitting around having their 47,000,000 glass of iced-tea (and still
haven't gotten their lemon).
Cory Pchajek
That much I'm not sure about. But there's no reason why there has to be an
all powerful God in control of it all. That part makes no sense at all.
CoryP
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of higher existance to validate us all? Why would only humans have
souls, and the rest of the animal kingdom not. Is it so hard for people
to comprehend that life on earth is exactly what it appears to be? I for
one will not be spending any of my time after I die eternally doing
anything, I'll just be dead. I think people look for a justification for
living, and try to better themselves throughout life to get the gravy at
the end. It would be nice if more people just did things because they
wanted to, rather than who may be watching.
Ken Yost
simple typo? It is up to you to decide.
Ken
::Hmmmm.... eternity. That sounds like a long time, I don't think I would
Glen Hallick
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> Read what I wrote... I said I would enjoy my enternity... Was it a
> simple typo? It is up to you to decide.
>
> Ken
>
So where in hell have you been hiding? I thought you were had a job with
Nortel in Ottawa?
You better have a chit-chat with Stuart Murray, he's been pretty much a lame
duck opposition leader since the party gerrymandered the leadership for him.
The Tories could always be counted on to demand specifics from the NDP when
the former were the government. Now Murray is calling for tax cuts, but he
won't say what spending he wants cut. As ineffective the Doer Today's NDP
government has been when compared to the Tories they don't look so bad.
We'll have to get together one of these days.
Glen
Ken Yost
::Nortel in Ottawa?
I thought it was common knowledge that I was there on my intership on a
term of 16 months... I am back @ school...
::You better have a chit-chat with Stuart Murray, he's been pretty much a lame
::duck opposition leader since the party gerrymandered the leadership for him.
::The Tories could always be counted on to demand specifics from the NDP when
::the former were the government. Now Murray is calling for tax cuts, but he
::won't say what spending he wants cut. As ineffective the Doer Today's NDP
::government has been when compared to the Tories they don't look so bad.
I have been so apathetic about party politics since I got back it
hurts... I am so tired of Day and Murray hasn't got me
interested... How did you like the Sun's "reporting" on the budget :)
::We'll have to get together one of these days.
That sounds like a fine idea...
Ken
Glen Hallick
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with
> ::Nortel in Ottawa?
>
> I thought it was common knowledge that I was there on my intership on a
> term of 16 months... I am back @ school...
You are dealing with people from the tv generation. Our abilities to
remember things ain't always so good.
>
> ::You better have a chit-chat with Stuart Murray, he's been pretty much a
lame
> ::duck opposition leader since the party gerrymandered the leadership for
him.
> ::The Tories could always be counted on to demand specifics from the NDP
when
> ::the former were the government. Now Murray is calling for tax cuts, but
he
> ::won't say what spending he wants cut. As ineffective the Doer Today's
NDP
> ::government has been when compared to the Tories they don't look so bad.
>
> I have been so apathetic about party politics since I got back it
> hurts... I am so tired of Day and Murray hasn't got me
> interested... How did you like the Sun's "reporting" on the budget :)
>
I saw Pruden's cartoon on the front pageof the Scum, but the Freep was right
beside it. Given their respective takes on the budget were world's apart, I
decided to pass on the Scum today. Besides all of their stuff on the budget
was probably written before Selinger even wrote the budget. The Scum is so
predictable.
> ::We'll have to get together one of these days.
>
> That sounds like a fine idea...
>
I understand your apathy on politics. I've let my NDP membership lapse. I
can't see any use having one if "Today's NDP" is just another name for a
bunch of Liberals with a few Tories.
Glen
Cory Pchajek
from the other parties.
CoryP
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Ken Yost
::You are dealing with people from the tv generation. Our abilities to
::remember things ain't always so good.
I forgot :) Seems everyone is surprised... There have @ least 5 posts
asking what happened :)
::I understand your apathy on politics. I've let my NDP membership lapse. I
::can't see any use having one if "Today's NDP" is just another name for a
::bunch of Liberals with a few Tories.
I still see them as whacko leftists (but aren't you all compared to me
:), and have moved away from populism somewhat (the people are idiots,
reference past elections :) but still believe in a great deal of the
major tenants, reform of parliament, referenda (rare occurances, not
like the US), lower taxes, less government but Day is a twit (Manning
looks so good now... *SIGH* ) and the
Tories have once again picked a leader that believes in none of this
stuff (or so it seems). Under 10 years of Filmon, many lefty things
were still in place (Rent Control, Affirmative Discrimination,
etc..) and it doesn't look like Murray would do anything about it either
add to that the Tories are less than a populist party...
Ah well... My frustration reigns true.
Ken
Walter M. Krawec
Manitoba politics - toleration,moderation, and compromise. You guys should
know that!
I give credit to Selinger for what I thought was a reasonable budget under
the circumstances. It would have been nice to have seen more groundwork
for future tax cuts, but I recognize that there are program deficiencies
that need to be rectified.
My biggest concern with the NDP budget is that there doesn't seem to be
any sort of overarching plan. With Filmon, you knew all of his policies
were a more incremental and moderate version of what was going on under
Harris and Klein...which is only reasonable given that Manitoba doesn't
have the resources to implement those types of wholesale changes as
Ontario and Alberta do. Agree or disagree with Filmon, you knew where he
stood.
With Doer, though, I still don't know where he's coming from. The tax cuts
were a good start, but are they part of a plan to consistently decrease
taxes or is this a one-off measure designed to address the tax gap? Same
with the large proportion of surplus revenue directed toward new
spending. Is this something we should expect more of? Perhaps Doer is
being wise by playing things year-by-year, but it's tough to figure out
where he's going with it.
I would be inclined to give the gov't a good review overall on the budget,
though...it's about as good as I'd expect from the NDP. Only the
ideologues are pissed off about it!!! (Koff, koff)
Walter
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residents, endlessly chit chatting with your thumbs
up your arses while you should be manufacturing
bottles and drinking more water.
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>
> know that!
That would explain why Rufus was a one term wonder.
>
> I give credit to Selinger for what I thought was a reasonable budget under
> the circumstances. It would have been nice to have seen more groundwork
> for future tax cuts, but I recognize that there are program deficiencies
> that need to be rectified.
>
I found it to be a rather bland, uninspiring budget. Numbers wise not all
that different than some of the Tory budgets. Perhaps that's why Stu Murray
looks like such a freakin' dolt when trying to attack it.
> My biggest concern with the NDP budget is that there doesn't seem to be
> any sort of overarching plan.
Well of course Eastside, what the hell else would you expect from "Today's
NDP"? My suggestion is you look at what Romanow did in Sasakatchewan and
what Blair is doing in the UK and then you should have a pretty good sense
of what Doer's plans are.
> With Filmon, you knew all of his policies
> were a more incremental and moderate version of what was going on under
> Harris and Klein...which is only reasonable given that Manitoba doesn't
> have the resources to implement those types of wholesale changes as
> Ontario and Alberta do. Agree or disagree with Filmon, you knew where he
> stood.
Yes, but only in a certain way. During much of the first half of his tenure,
Filbert was just another moderate. During the second half he became more and
more like Harris and Klien.
> With Doer, though, I still don't know where he's coming from.
That's ok, neither does the Premier. The situation with "Today's NDP"
reminds me of the joke about Ronald Reagan when he was first elected
President of the US...."now what do we do?"
However there are some areas where the Doer Today's NDP government most
definately wants to go. For instance with the hog industry, it all depends
on what string McCains Foods head honcho Michael McCain pulls.
Doer said he promised that his government would not re-instate the single
desk selling of hogs. IMHO, it was probably more like McCain told him not
to.
Oh yah, then McCain said "would you like fries with that order?"
I don't you about you, but I sure as hell have heard of any clean
environment hearings about these corporate hog barns. Nor do I recall the
government re-classifying the employees of these barns out of the farm
labour regulations, which are designed for seasonal employment, to the labor
regulations most other workers are under.
But then what else can be expected from Rosann "You can't fight free trade"
Wowchuk.
Oh well if there were clean environment hearings that would require Oscar
Lathlin to some work, or at least show up. I've heard some pretty lame
excuses politicians have used to explain there actions, but to say his
constituency is so far away that he couldn't make it to Treasury Board
meetings IMHO ranks right up there (or should that be down there?) with the
bullshit Day and the CA have used.
> The tax cuts
> were a good start, but are they part of a plan to consistently decrease
> taxes or is this a one-off measure designed to address the tax gap?
A real tax cut would be a plan to get rid of the provincial sales tax.
> Same
> with the large proportion of surplus revenue directed toward new
> spending. Is this something we should expect more of?
Unless Today's NDP finds itself heading into the tank, I'd say bank on small
to moderate increases in spending. The rate of increase will probably
reflect the rate increase in the economy.
> Perhaps Doer is
> being wise by playing things year-by-year, but it's tough to figure out
> where he's going with it.
After the NDP spent 11 years in Opposition, one of the cabinet ministers at
a NDP Provincial Council meeting last year said and I quote:
"We have been the government for about year and we are still trying figure
out what we want to do".
It was one of those rare times I was so pissed off that I was speechless. I
was so shocked by that statement that I totally missed the opportunity to
challenge the minister on the statement.
There may not be a whole hell of a lot of political cliches when it comes to
Manitoba politics, however that statement ranks right up there with
Carstairs once remarking, "there is goof patronage and there is bad
patronage and I am good patrongage."
>
> I would be inclined to give the gov't a good review overall on the budget,
> though...it's about as good as I'd expect from the NDP. Only the
> ideologues are pissed off about it!!! (Koff, koff)
A long ago extinct political animal....the Liberal ideologue. The cause, a
complete lack of principles.
:-)
Glen
Glen Hallick
Glen
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Walter M. Krawec
snip
>
> I found it to be a rather bland, uninspiring budget. Numbers wise not all
> that different than some of the Tory budgets. Perhaps that's why Stu Murray
> looks like such a freakin' dolt when trying to attack it.
Agreed. Personally, I expected better from the new man in charge for the
Tories, but then, the Dips haven't given him much material to work with.
snip
>
> Yes, but only in a certain way. During much of the first half of his tenure,
> Filbert was just another moderate. During the second half he became more and
> more like Harris and Klien.
I think the billion/billion plan from the 99 election set a lot people's
political radars off. Even though it appears the NDP's numbers aren't
terribly far off that mark, at the time it really sounded like the sort of
stuff coming out of Alberta and Ontario. Also, the gov't had become more
aggressive in other ways as well.
snip
>
> "We have been the government for about year and we are still trying figure
> out what we want to do".
>
> It was one of those rare times I was so pissed off that I was speechless. I
> was so shocked by that statement that I totally missed the opportunity to
> challenge the minister on the statement.
>
> There may not be a whole hell of a lot of political cliches when it comes to
> Manitoba politics, however that statement ranks right up there with
> Carstairs once remarking, "there is goof patronage and there is bad
> patronage and I am good patrongage."
Well, judging from the NDP's track record that minister's statement
appears to be a fair assessment of the government's current situation. As
you suggest, it's tough to be pissed off at the NDP because they haven't
really done all that much yet.
> >
> > I would be inclined to give the gov't a good review overall on the budget,
> > though...it's about as good as I'd expect from the NDP. Only the
> > ideologues are pissed off about it!!! (Koff, koff)
>
>
> A long ago extinct political animal....the Liberal ideologue. The cause, a
> complete lack of principles.
Hey, what's wrong with a little dose of pragmatism?
> :-)
>
>
> Glen
>
>
WK
Glen Hallick
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Glen Hallick wrote:
>
> snip
> >
> > I found it to be a rather bland, uninspiring budget. Numbers wise not
all
> > that different than some of the Tory budgets. Perhaps that's why Stu
Murray
> > looks like such a freakin' dolt when trying to attack it.
>
> Agreed. Personally, I expected better from the new man in charge for the
> Tories, but then, the Dips haven't given him much material to work with.
>
Well Eastside, it's not like the "Today's NDP" government haven't provided
the Tories the material. IMHO when it comes to communications the NDP are
pretty bad, but the Tories are even worse. It's like a battle between Sgt.
Schultz and Col. Klink.
However there is an important point to be raised. Murray was the Tories'
Director of Communications for the Tories for a few elections. The guy is a
spin doctor, yet he is quite feeble in getting the party's message out to
the public. Go figure.
>
> >
> > Yes, but only in a certain way. During much of the first half of his
tenure,
> > Filbert was just another moderate. During the second half he became more
and
> > more like Harris and Klien.
>
> I think the billion/billion plan from the 99 election set a lot people's
> political radars off. Even though it appears the NDP's numbers aren't
> terribly far off that mark, at the time it really sounded like the sort of
> stuff coming out of Alberta and Ontario. Also, the gov't had become more
> aggressive in other ways as well.
>
Filbert's billion plan simply wasn't believed by enough voters. There is no
denying the voters wanted such a tax cut, but they were not willing to trust
Filmon. A side effect of the Monnin Inquiry and a few other things like
screwing up health care for 11 years. The people lost faith.
> snip
>
> >
> > "We have been the government for about year and we are still trying
figure
> > out what we want to do".
> >
> > It was one of those rare times I was so pissed off that I was
speechless. I
> > was so shocked by that statement that I totally missed the opportunity
to
> > challenge the minister on the statement.
> >
> > There may not be a whole hell of a lot of political cliches when it
comes to
> > Manitoba politics, however that statement ranks right up there with
> > Carstairs once remarking, "there is goof patronage and there is bad
> > patronage and I am good patrongage."
>
> Well, judging from the NDP's track record that minister's statement
> appears to be a fair assessment of the government's current situation.
I won't disagree with that.
> As
> you suggest, it's tough to be pissed off at the NDP because they haven't
> really done all that much yet.
>
Well taking their marching orders from Michael McCain is a good place to
start. "Today's NDP has 3 policies on hog production concerning single desk
selling.
1) Consult producers, including former producers, about reinstating single
desk selling. That's what came out of the party's recent convention.
2) From the Ag Minister is consulting only current producers and what adds
up to essentially ignoring everyone else. Like Puratone and Elite Swine are
going to favour a return to something that benefitted the smaller hog
producers.
3) Doer taking orders from McCain's Foods head poobah, Michael McCain, not
to even consider reinstating single desk selling of hogs.
Of course too the Ag minister will tell anyone that these corporate hog
barns cause no pollution whatsoever and the current regulations are just
fine. That's something straight out of Harry Enns' Book of Lies.
It was disheartening to see "Today's NDP" buy the crappola lock stock and
barrell, only to go back to their tree hugging ways when it comes to other
environmental topics.
> > > I would be inclined to give the gov't a good review overall on the
budget,
> > > though...it's about as good as I'd expect from the NDP. Only the
> > > ideologues are pissed off about it!!! (Koff, koff)
> >
> >
> > A long ago extinct political animal....the Liberal ideologue. The cause,
a
> > complete lack of principles.
>
> Hey, what's wrong with a little dose of pragmatism?
>
Nothing. It's just that Libs don't believe in pragmatism. Just stealing
policies from the Tories, NDP and the Reform/CA.
Glen