Sorry state of news
John K
some stuff going down in the city... he thought I might be interested in
getting some shots (I can't pass up a good fire or car crash without getting
some footage).. alas, my gear was at the office.
There was a serious crash on Portage, the cops were out (as he says) combing
the area, he was tailed a few times.. they wanted someone bad..
Then just before the Louise bridge, he spotted a huge fire, and I think it
was a scrap lumber yard or something...
I've not watched TV for several months, and don't really miss it all that
much (I record a few shows during the week on my PVR, Law & Order, Stargate)
The point is, there is NOTHING on the Free Press web site mentioning any of
this, and CJOB web is also absent of any story.
I know not eveything makes it to the glorious Web, but I think I would
rather read a glut of LOCAL stories on-line, than one or two, along with a
bunch of international ones. I get my international from CBC and CNN...
I'm hungry for a local on-line source.
Now, when I should be lazing around at home on my first day of vacation, I
gotta leave my compound and venture out into god know what type of world for
a paper.
What a sham.... I could go on, I'm really building for a major fucking
media rant, but.. no... I'll keep it inside.. festering and boiling.
I hope people start turning to the growing "New Media" types.. the ones that
care about bringing open information to people. It's just pathetic that..
not only is a news broadcast edited to fit in 5 minutes, but that the most
important, leading story has to wait for a sponsor intro.
I'm dipping into my rage.. no more..
-John
Shaun
Couldn't agree more. The problem is funding. High-traffic sites cost money,
and Winnipeg is a little shit-hole of a city with almost nobody willing to
pay REAL money for advertising.
I freelance for the FP now (not an employee), and previously the Sun. (Until
they fucked me over by releasing MY COPY of the Mike Templeton shooting
audio. It WAS NOT meant to be public information) Anyway............ I
frequently grabbed all kinds of city-beat shots, and they never made it to
press. This is the material which would be best suited for a "local news"
website. I'm game to take on a project like that, but don't have the
webmaster background.
I'm willing to help out in production, but there would have to be sufficient
revenue and resources available. Nobody wants to work for free..
Unforunately, I've done just that. Freep and Sun are REALLY BAD with paying
freelancers for their work, when they contribute on a regular basis.
Shaun Willingham
"John K" <jkamche...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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missjaney
editor/proofreader to help get it started. It ties in beautifully with a
project I'm working on.
Miss Janey
<w3sp...@wpg.flame> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 3 Jun 2002 13:16:00 -0500, "Shaun" <use...@the-isp.com> wrote:
>
> > I freelance for the FP now (not an employee), and previously the Sun.
(Until
> > they fucked me over by releasing MY COPY of the Mike Templeton shooting
> > audio. It WAS NOT meant to be public information) Anyway............ I
> > frequently grabbed all kinds of city-beat shots, and they never made it
to
> > press. This is the material which would be best suited for a "local
news"
> > website. I'm game to take on a project like that, but don't have the
> > webmaster background.
>
>
> This sounds interesting, and I do have the requisite skills.
>
> > I'm willing to help out in production, but there would have to be
sufficient
> > revenue and resources available. Nobody wants to work for free..
> > Unforunately, I've done just that. Freep and Sun are REALLY BAD with
paying
> > freelancers for their work, when they contribute on a regular basis.
>
> So where's the business plan?;-)
>
>
>
> ______
> spider
>
> Free Flames
> email: w3sp...@wpg.flame
>
> "I am Dyslexic of Borg, your ass will be laminated."
John K
some able folks I know last week, but the traffic/bandwidth issues are hard
to get over. (along with the fact it would never pay enough to cover wages).
I think a site that has a good mix of text/simple gfx and some bigger video
content might go over well.
The site would have to be based in community roots type approach, with ads
and such simply paying for hard costs. Stories that might not fit in a
newspaper, or community paper.
I can donate a good computer to act as a server to the cause.
My skills are shooting and editing.
When's this beerfest? I'm in.
-John
"Shaun" <use...@the-isp.com> wrote in message
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@@ Taylorchukx @@
I heard about that fire on Higgins but actually woke up 6am to smell
it thru out the house as I forgot to close my Windows over nite. (30
blocks away)
There is a local new media site..something like www newwinnipeg.com or
something.
But yes..there is a shortage of that local angle available and yes..
.everyone seems to want to get paid for everthing.
Unfortunately, after hearing from dozens and hundreds of young people
around town...many are really running out of optimism for Winnipeg.
A few said this about it tonite.
1. its a sh*dhole
2. its a trap
3. it sucks you in because its much cheaper to live here than
elsewere, so you stay.
Many can't get good jobs outside of restaurant or call center and so
they are living with their freinds parents..not even their own.
Every 3rd 20 year old is looking for creative ways to make a buck..and
few are legal.
The talk is Jasper...Calgary...Nelson/Caraga.
Time after time...everyone wants to get high... its the economy, the
slowdown in jobs... the helplessness
Last nite someone robbed the Subway and smacked the girl in the face
for the money.. like the robbery at the Mc a few days earlier.
yes we live in interestingtimes... although Winnipeg is becoming a
black hole for the young.
Save yourselves...save yours....
"Shaun" <use...@the-isp.com> wrote in message news:<FnOK8.551$sd.1...@news1.mts.net>...
missjaney
Miss Janey
"Don Doherty" <gu...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 03 Jun 2002 20:27:59 -0500, namor <lamer...@namor.nospam.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >>I could be game for it as well. I was mentioning something like this to
> >>some able folks I know last week, but the traffic/bandwidth issues are
hard
> >>to get over. (along with the fact it would never pay enough to cover
wages).
> >>
> >>I think a site that has a good mix of text/simple gfx and some bigger
video
> >>content might go over well.
> >>
> >>The site would have to be based in community roots type approach, with
ads
> >>and such simply paying for hard costs. Stories that might not fit in a
> >>newspaper, or community paper.
> >>
> >> I can donate a good computer to act as a server to the cause.
> >>
> >>My skills are shooting and editing.
> >
> >I'll donate what I can to server admin, if possible. As long as we're
> >going theoretical-like.
>
> I get the BIG office..............As CEO I think that's plausible
>
> Don
>
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
HA!
Yeah...you guys couldn't HANDLE uncensored.
Bunch o' yappy..yappers.
Thats all I'm saying on dis'.
But again..there is already a winnipeg happening site ...something like new
winnipeg or something.
"Don Doherty" <gu...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:32:15 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >We'll talk <g>
>
> Well, you are the editor, of course, John and Shawn will submit their
> stuff to you.
>
> Terry and spider will handel the web-e-commerce interface.
> We do want to get paid ;)
>
> Namor will handel the tech hardware stuff and inn box. Also for
> feasibility we should consider setting up a Usenet server (
> uncensored........otherwise all the cheap bastards in the Peg won't
> spend a dime on us ;)
>
> I, of course will continue to supply the administrative duties as my
> life station dictates. Did I mention the T1 ;)
>
>
> cheers
> Don
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
missjaney
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:18:35 -0500, Don Doherty <gu...@nothere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:32:15 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>We'll talk <g>
> >
> >Well, you are the editor, of course, John and Shawn will submit their
> >stuff to you.
Submitting to me? Oh, I like the sound of this <g>
> >
> >Terry and spider will handel the web-e-commerce interface.
> >We do want to get paid ;)
> >
> >Namor will handel the tech hardware stuff and inn box. Also for
> >feasibility we should consider setting up a Usenet server (
> >uncensored........otherwise all the cheap bastards in the Peg won't
> >spend a dime on us ;)
> >
> >I, of course will continue to supply the administrative duties as my
> >life station dictates. Did I mention the T1 ;)
>
> I forgot the contributions of Dill............and the late breaking news
> from JJ.......not to mention the entertainment contributions of
> Bartley......where he could actually say what he thought ;)
>
> Then there is lining up the corporate sponsorship, in the form of
> banners on the website......etc.........Osborne Village Bizz..comes to
> mind.
>
> Oh my.........so much work.......I need a raise already ;)
>
> cheers
> Don
<sigh> Here I go again. All my fun eventually turns to business.
Amazing how this all dovetails perfectly with my other project, and a good
deal of the research and groundwork is already done or in the works. We do
have lots to talk about at the next beer fest.
Miss Janey
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
group.
DD was referring to Bartley Kives and being able to say on the website what
he couldn't say in the Freep.
TJ was referring to Bartley..the traffic reporter that rode on the back of
the guys hog last year, as seen in this bit of undercover work.
www.geocities.com/donabcdef/hog.jpg
"Terry Johns" <tjohns@++++++longcoat.com++++++++++> wrote in message
news:m4iqfu8hjk0er2uq8...@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:30:46 -0500, Don Doherty <gu...@nothere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 17:18:35 -0500, Don Doherty <gu...@nothere.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:32:15 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
>
> <snip>
>
> >>Well, you are the editor, of course, John and Shawn will submit their
> >>stuff to you.
> >>
> >>Terry and spider will handel the web-e-commerce interface.
> >>We do want to get paid ;)
> >>
> >>Namor will handel the tech hardware stuff and inn box. Also for
> >>feasibility we should consider setting up a Usenet server (
> >>uncensored........otherwise all the cheap bastards in the Peg won't
> >>spend a dime on us ;)
> >>
> >>I, of course will continue to supply the administrative duties as my
> >>life station dictates. Did I mention the T1 ;)
> >
> >I forgot the contributions of Dill............and the late breaking news
> >from JJ.......not to mention the entertainment contributions of
> >Bartley......where he could actually say what he thought ;)
>
> I just want to know when Bartley and I are going to do the traffic
> thing again, we had a blast, lolololololol
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
"missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message news:4ZbL8.181786
> > Bartley......where he could actually say what he thought ;)
> >
> >> > cheers> > Don
>
> <sigh> Here I go again. All my fun eventually turns to business.
> > Amazing how this all dovetails perfectly with my other project, and a
good
> deal of the research and groundwork is already done or in the works.
>We do have lots to talk about at the next beer fest.
> > Miss Janey
ahhhhh' geez....
do the words ..."get a ROOM already!'" ...resonate with anyone here?
Thanks'.....
so many smileys'..:) so little time....
missjaney
"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> Uncensored?
>
> HA!
>
> Yeah...you guys couldn't HANDLE uncensored.
>
> Bunch o' yappy..yappers.
>
> Thats all I'm saying on dis'.
Come on, now, let's keep a civil tone, please. There's no call to be
slapping people. Everyone here is behaving themselves and carrying on a
respectful conversation. It would be good to keep it that way, don't you
think?
>
> But again..there is already a winnipeg happening site ...something like
new
> winnipeg or something.
I know the site you're talking about. It's a good one, and very topical and
radical in some ways. They recently had a mechanism through which they
allowed the viewers to 'fire' a lot of local politicians. It was great fun.
Miss Janey
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
Oh...I sense a bit of community activism sprouting up amongst this newsgroup
suddenly.
That sites not too bad...but I've only been there a handful of times in a
year... typical of most websites these days for people.
It really has to have SOMETHING special...to make people want to go there
more than the first two or handful of times.
Sure..if you're writing for the thing, you'll go there all the time.
The facts are
1. lots of sites out there already drowning people in information
2. quality costs
3. hard to do something small and make it worthwhile unless its really from
the heart
4. people are tuning out of their internet connections..at least long term
users are
"Don Doherty" <gu...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:41:03 GMT, "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I"
> <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> >But again..there is already a winnipeg happening site ...something like
new
> >winnipeg or something.
>
> The site is
>
> http://www.mywinnipeg.com
>
> And our web-masters will make it look like a bunch of kids made it.
>
>
missjaney
from mywinnipeg. Haven't looked at it for a few weeks, have been busy
multi-tasking, but will take a look at it now. Just out of curiosity.
Miss Janey
"Don Doherty" <gu...@nothere.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 22:41:03 GMT, "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I"
> <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> >But again..there is already a winnipeg happening site ...something like
new
> >winnipeg or something.
>
Nunya
such a sweet guy afetr all is he?
"missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message
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missjaney
I've been here long enough to know who's who and what's what with the media
types. Thanks anyway.
Miss Janey
"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ł®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Nunya
"missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message
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missjaney
"Nunya" <earth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> You're trying to reason with the unreasonable.
Oh, I don't know about that. It's just a matter of establishing what's
appropriate in certain company and situations. I can get as rowdy as the
next guy when I'm at the Albert, but I do behave myself at the Palm Room, if
I want to be allowed to come back <g>
Miss Janey
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
I wasn't saying that you needed the interpretation...its the other two
posters who were on different pages about which Bartley each was talking
about.
Two words....
what' ever
But yes, as I had said from the start..the site was a "new winnipeg" site
and not the one sponsored by MTS mywinnipeg.
New Winnipeg was/is run by community activists of sorts and has
socio/political commentary on it...including the odd article by one of the
posters here.. GH I think.
"missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message
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> Actually, no interpretation required; the posts were perfectly clear, and
> I've been here long enough to know who's who and what's what with the
media
> types. Thanks anyway.
>
> Miss Janey
>
> "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
>
> "Nunya" <earth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:P_cL8.181869$GG6.15...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > You're trying to reason with the unreasonable.
>
> Oh, I don't know about that. It's just a matter of establishing what's
> appropriate in certain company and situations. I can get as rowdy as the
> next guy when I'm at the Albert, but I do behave myself at the Palm Room,
if
> I want to be allowed to come back <g>
>
> Miss
Thats right.
Personally, I think its high time that some of these old school posting
males realize that the women of this cyber generation can get along just
fine without them trying to hold the cyber doors for them, or curtsy in
their presence.
So Nunya can quite nicely park it and cork it and let MJ fend for
her/himself.
Whatever someone wants to do with or at the Palm Room..is none of my
beeswax.
I'm not saying...I'm just saying.
Now... I would put a fiver on the table to have a good online catfight with
MJ and some other contender if there was any other non male old geek on the
newsgroup.
..course the odds of that happening in this sea of male pudginess is about
zero to noneya.
Nunya
"missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message
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missjaney
> You were warned. They said it wouldn't be long before he turned on you.
Not
> such a sweet guy afetr all is he?
Oh, he's not so bad. Just used to being the bad boy in the schoolyard, along
with a bunch of others. I see a lot of baiting going on. I tend not to hang
around the sandbox, myself. I prefer the company of adults. So, being
adults, we are all capable of choosing appropriate behaviours to suit the
occasion, yes? I have faith that Mr. Bayomi will conduct himself in as
exemplary a fashion as he did earlier on in our conversations.
Miss Janey
Opus-
spake thusly:
>
>"Nunya" <earth...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:TWcL8.181850$GG6.15...@news3.calgary.shaw.ca...
>> You were warned. They said it wouldn't be long before he turned on you.
>Not
>> such a sweet guy afetr all is he?
>
>Oh, he's not so bad. Just used to being the bad boy in the schoolyard, along
>with a bunch of others. I see a lot of baiting going on. I tend not to hang
>around the sandbox, myself. I prefer the company of adults. So, being
>adults, we are all capable of choosing appropriate behaviours to suit the
>occasion, yes? I have faith that Mr. Bayomi will conduct himself in as
>exemplary a fashion as he did earlier on in our conversations.
Don't count on it. He questioned my parenting ability.
--
jbu...@hotmail.com
(Jim, single dad to Lesleigh [Autistic] 04/20/94)
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missjaney
> I wasn't directing the comment to you MJ.
>
> I wasn't saying that you needed the interpretation...its the other two
> posters who were on different pages about which Bartley each was talking
> about.
>
> Two words....
>
> what' ever
No problem, Don. I just like the air nice and clear, that's all. Healthier
for everyone breathing it.
>
> But yes, as I had said from the start..the site was a "new winnipeg" site
> and not the one sponsored by MTS mywinnipeg.
>
> New Winnipeg was/is run by community activists of sorts and has
> socio/political commentary on it...including the odd article by one of the
> posters here.. GH I think.
Wouldn't know about that, but do know some of the folks who run it and am
mightily impressed with them.
Miss Janey
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
Oh.. and that bit about Opus and his parenting ability.
I merely took and still do question his continual pointing out of his own
daughters disability (austistic) instead of bragging about one of her
probably many other sklls/abilities like loves horses, or makes great water
color paintings, or is just one heck of a good kid.
But instead...everyone one on this newsgroup has to know Opus as the guy
with the autistic child.
Personally, I am very much against labels and feel that it handicaps the
child more than the label alone.
I say, let the kid make it on his/her own without a parent pointing out
they're disabilities.
Parents need to hold their children up high and accentuate their strong
points...not point out what most of society considers to be a disability.
Also..most of society doesn't even know what autism is exactly..except for
the fact that its some disability.
"Opus-" <jbu...@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Miss Janey
you're entitled to them. I had a child with a disability, which he
eventually ovecame with time and a lot of love and help and respect from
people with attitudes and outlooks similar to that of Opus.
I should think it would be beneath you to attack someone over such a
sensitive issue as his child.
Miss Janey
"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Opus-
am not the least bit ashamed or embarrassed with regards to my
daughter.
But that's Don, always spewing about what he knows not.
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:40:37 -0500, "Miss Janey"
<missj...@hotmail.com> spake thusly:
>I won't digniy any of this with a comment, Don. You have your opinions and
>you're entitled to them. I had a child with a disability, which he
>eventually ovecame with time and a lot of love and help and respect from
>people with attitudes and outlooks similar to that of Opus.
>
>I should think it would be beneath you to attack someone over such a
>sensitive issue as his child.
>
>Miss Janey
>
>"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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nothing of any value
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
No, MJ you or anyone can dignify this thread with a comment.
You may not agree with my opinion and that is the beauty of a free country
and different viewpoints.
I personally find it to be harmful emotionally, for a parent to label a
child and then to go out of his/her way to point out a childs disabilty to
the world or at least a newsgroup with every single post with this label in
it.
It shows me that this parent is going out of his way to make sure that this
person and this label are forever linked.
This should not happen.
A parent should not let labels take over their or their childrens lives and
burden them with it.
Go find something postive and with less of a negative social stigma to use
with a child.
To start with.
1. parents have long been told to be careful how they introduce their
children to the internet. Do not post their pictures on websites, give out
too much personal information about them especially their medical condition
such as in this case
2. no parent should list a childs physical or mental disability in each and
every post like some kind of harness to be worn.
Would you say something like
- Charlene, single mom to Mary, [mentally retarded]
- Janet, single mom to Alice, [quadraplegic]
- Bob, single dad to Jack. [paranoid schizophrenic]
- Ben, single dad to Sally [one leg]
I say no.
This is my opinion and I firmly disagree with the labeling of a child for
he/she will grow up with this label limiting their lives.
"Miss Janey" <missj...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Opus-
spake thusly:
>On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 01:57:15 GMT, "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I"
><taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
<snip Bayomi stupidity>
>Be good donE........you've had your warning, now you've had your 1 week
>suspension...........you know what is next.
>>
>>But instead...everyone one on this newsgroup has to know Opus as the guy
>>with the autistic child.
>
>Actually, quite a few of us have met Les......we even know her favourite
>food is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,pizza!!
She thinks you're Santa :-)
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
Everybody thinks that he looks like Santa.
...is that a good thing though?
Santa was obese and was a prime candidate for a heart attack.
Had a big red nose from years and years of heavy drinking.
He was regular though and came once a year at Christmas.
And the rumors were that he also had.
- vericose veins
- heartbreak of psirisasis
- real bad hemmorids and couldn't stay on the sled for more than an hour at
a time
- terrible temper and would beat the elfs and the reindeer
- actually hated kids and put in for early retirement for the last 80 years
missjaney
> On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:40:37 -0500, "Miss Janey"
>
> >I won't digniy any of this with a comment, Don. You have your opinions
and
> >you're entitled to them. I had a child with a disability, which he
> >eventually ovecame with time and a lot of love and help and respect from
> >people with attitudes and outlooks similar to that of Opus.
> >
> >I should think it would be beneath you to attack someone over such a
> >sensitive issue as his child.
>
>
> MJ, this is a guy that not only attacked and I mean severely attacked
> Opus. Please do not be fooled by this "I never did anything wrong"
> bull.
I'm not fooled, Terry. I've been lurking here for a while, a month or so,
and have seen much that dismays me, in these threads. I don't know the
history of most of the arguments, I've only witnessed their steady
escalation. If truth be told, I find it difficult to read through to the end
of Mr. Bayomi's posts, in some of these threads, so I don't.
Likewise, I don't want to endure it or entertain it in the threads I start
or participate in. I simply won't If it gets out of hand, I will ignore it
completely. If there ain't no audience, there ain't no show.
>
> While suffering from PTSD, he decided to call me a murderer and killer
> because of the older gentleman that died in the accident. He also made
> some cruel comments on my wife's breast cancer...if you must defend
> this slug please do it quietly....
I'm sorry, Terry. I didn't know of your history here, and I certainly
understand your anger. I hope you'll understand that I'm not defending
anyone, I'm merely giving Mr. Bayomi the opportunity to treat myself, and
the other posters in these threads, with the respect and consideration that
I've shown him thus far. He can choose to keep his act together, or not. He
has every opportunity to do so. I try not to choose sides or join other
people's battles, for the most part, when it involves things from the past,
the details of which I'm unaware.
>
> What I mean by that is simply erase all of his quote before reposting,
> that way the people he likes to attack don't have to read his lying
> drivel,
That's a good way to deal with offensive material, certainly.
now he would like to meet me face to face and discuss his soon
> to be dismissal from usenet he is most welcome too....unfortunately
> the only time he has any courage is on usenet.....sad very sad...
>
> Thank you.
>
> Terry
You're most welcome. I think we understand each other <s>
Miss Janey
Terry Johns
missjaney wrote:
>
> "Terry Johns" <tjohns@++++++longcoat.com++++++++++> wrote in message
> news:838rfuc3r99pm00ig...@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:40:37 -0500, "Miss Janey"
> > <missj...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I won't digniy any of this with a comment, Don. You have your opinions
> and
> > >you're entitled to them. I had a child with a disability, which he
> > >eventually ovecame with time and a lot of love and help and respect from
> > >people with attitudes and outlooks similar to that of Opus.
<snip>
> Likewise, I don't want to endure it or entertain it in the threads I start
> or participate in. I simply won't If it gets out of hand, I will ignore it
> completely. If there ain't no audience, there ain't no show.
There is a lot of truth in what you say, unfortunately when someone
takes it off
usenet and calls employers, ISP's and volunteer groups trying to cause
and individual
personal harm then it is hard not to be an audience.....
<snip>
> I'm sorry, Terry. I didn't know of your history here, and I certainly
> understand your anger. I hope you'll understand that I'm not defending
> anyone, I'm merely giving Mr. Bayomi the opportunity to treat myself, and
> the other posters in these threads, with the respect and consideration that
> I've shown him thus far. He can choose to keep his act together, or not. He
> has every opportunity to do so. I try not to choose sides or join other
> people's battles, for the most part, when it involves things from the past,
> the details of which I'm unaware.
His act as you call it is just that, an act..... but that is not why I
responded
to you. I enjoy your posts and I find most everything interesting. When
I have said
what I feel or what I have experienced through my life in a thread I
usually stay quiet
and read the rest of the thread, as in the CP thread. I was just letting
you know
the feelings of not only myself but several others in this NG.
> > What I mean by that is simply erase all of his quote before reposting,
> > that way the people he likes to attack don't have to read his lying
> > drivel,
>
> That's a good way to deal with offensive material, certainly.
He is the offensive material, most certainly.
<snip>
> You're most welcome. I think we understand each other <s>
I would hope so, we seem to have a bit of an understanding as well as
some
common ground.
I like most other people that form opinions base them on life
experiences, especially strong opinions. Opinions such as the one you
were about to discuss
about disabled children. I have based my opinion on meeting Opus and his
daughter. I am not a parent so I have to base my opinions on what I
learn through
meeting good and bad parents and not condemning a parent or their skills
when I
have never seen the outcome.
Opus is a single Dad who works hard and lives more for his daughter than
anything else. He is
a passionate father who in my opinion is a well adjusted Dad who is
devoted to his child and her
well being as well as her social and personal growth, both from what I
have seen are doing well.
When people use the term "retarded" it tends to get me angry because it
is an archaic word showing
lack of informed opinion and judgment based on a label that no longer
has any real meaning.
Thanks for your response and I believe we need a beerfest....
> Miss Janey
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> Likewise, I don't want to endure it or entertain it in the threads I start
> or participate in. I simply won't If it gets out of hand, I will ignore it
>
the opportunity to treat myself, and
> the other posters in these threads, with the respect and consideration
that
> I've shown him thus far. He can choose to keep his act together, or not.
He
Dat's right MJ.
You have your own head on your own shoulders...and don't need spoonfeeding
from anyone else.
Good enough for moi'.
Now...lets see someone kick up some new topics as I'm pretty well bored to
sneers with whats on since my return.
- Mayor Murray ...is he just another Cretien wannabe and doesn't know when
to leave?
- Eatons...why haven't they started the actual demolision...its already 1rst
week of June!
- organic produce, is it coming down in price in Winnipeg yet?
- Winnipeg radio, is this Bob thing working?
- small business for young people... are there any initiatives? I heard a
few saying that its far better to go outside of Jasper for many business.
(most of the 20 somethings are talking about hemp clothing stores and bong
outlets though)
- is there a resurgence in the pot culture now like in the 60s?
- what really, does the Folk Fest mean to the 20 somethings? Is it really
the music that they go for now? Or has it always been the same type of
crowd?
- Jazz festival..who is worth going to?
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
<my_...@mts.net> wrote in message
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> X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 04:52:34 GMT, "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk
> ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >No, MJ you or anyone can dignify this thread with a comment.
>
> had your week suspension, don't force a cancellation altogether.
Stu.... I had you in my filter but decided to air it out and take you out
for a bit.
You tell me why having a discussion like this would be reason to suspend an
Internet account and then you will painting a very dismal state of affairs
for freedom of expression.
I mean really.
I will only stop this thread because I'm just plain tired of you yapping
away in your jackboot style trying to make people agree with your little
lame duck opinions.
I said what I firmly believe and many do that labels are very negative for
anyone and especially to put on children.
I would certainly take out that negative label in my sig if I had a kid with
autism and I would praise the many things that my child could do.
But I've said all I wish to say on this matter since I am still only getting
the feedback from the same 5 people.
Its quite frankly a waste of my time and I have far better ways to waste my
time than to waste it on wasters like you 5.
So there.
You want this sandbox...you can probably have at it.
I'm going to take my shovel and my water wings... and most likely find
another beach.
Yes...I know you'll talk about me for a millenia and this newsgroup will
bore people to tears and will simply be a hug fest for the same 5 lonely
posters.
But so be it.
...so shall it be written.
....so shall it be done.
..and dat...
..is da' god honest truth...
...Ruth.
Bah'..... bye.
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
How come you have your message set up so that when I open it to read, all
the text is HUGE characters?. UTF8.
Sheesh'.. its bad enough reading your words in 10 point...but to see it
stand out like the 30 foot woman. (a butt ugly one, I might add)... its
much worse.
Oh..but we're not having this conversation.
<my_...@mts.net> wrote in message
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> X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 14:23:47 GMT, "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk
> ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >Yes...I know you'll talk about me for a millenia and this newsgroup will
> >bore people to tears and will simply be a hug fest for the same 5 lonely
> >posters.
>
> you think much too highly of yourself.
>
>
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
do not refect the values or opinions of management, the ISP, the president
of Siam or the Tugboat captains around the world.
****
Stubs...well..maybe so..but your text is BLINDING me mahn'.... these letters
are like TEN feet tall.
oh..and again... ..ahem'.. we're not having this conversation.
..but if we were, I'd talk about Rick Loewen (from the 2 Sports Guys) on the
morning show today.
Rick (mojo radio) was on to criticize the Winnipeg political brochure or
something which is slagging Toronto and praising Winnipeg.
The radio host basically started and finished the interview by taking jabs
at Rick and his career so that finally when Rick reciprocated, the host
summarily cut off the interview and then went on to critize Lowewen.
The host kept saying that Rick had no ratings in that Mojo station..and so
Rick rightly commented that the host has it good because there is NO
competition.
The host kept yapping about how many different markets he had worked
in...and had I been on the air and could have stopped him from hitting his
pussy button (cut off button)..I would have said...
"because you can't hold a job... people tire of you after 2 years..not the
other way around...Winnipeg has you because we have
- low expectations
- other markets don't want you anymore
- you needed the cash and we were stuck for a host
Anyhow... Rick (who went on to work for 1290 before the jackboot dicatators
kicked the entire channel off the radio airwaves as a talk format) was
always incredibly funny with his cousin and they made sports seem exciting.
He and Collison and the rest should have packed it up and moved to the
states where they could really become stars.
I swear to gawd that Collison has the exact same voice and mannerisms as the
Rome on that US/Los angeles station.
...this guy gets ALL the big names on the air... and could have been a
Loewen as well if he would have shot higher and moved the HELL out of Canada
where he could have excelled!
Damn'...
...and then I saw the other 2 sports guys guy, at the library...hair really
gray...just making a living I guess.
Thats what fries my crawdads...seeing these guys with incredible potential
just blowing it... or at least not taking it all the way.
Kenny Shields of Streetheart another one.
Burton Cummings..well he had it going on for a while certainly.
Danny Kramer... I don't know..its touch and go there.
Others...Kahari? Well... hes a big fish in a small pond.
Monty Hall left when the going was good.. .and managed to drag that puppy
into one of the longest bits around. Good for gags in the odd spoof movie
or tv sitcom and returns home to say hello to his friends as small town boy
makes good.
<my_...@mts.net> wrote in message
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> X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:56:07 GMT, "ô-ô¬ taylorchuk
> ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >Speaking of too highly...
> >
> >How come you have your message set up so that when I open it to read,
all
> >the text is HUGE characters?. UTF8.
> >
> >Sheesh'.. its bad enough reading your words in 10 point...but to see it
> >stand out like the 30 foot woman. (a butt ugly one, I might add)... its
> >much worse.
> >
> >Oh..but we're not having this conversation.
> >
>
> perhaps you need to watch a training video on how to setup your MS
> Outlook
>
> ROFL
Opus-
<tjohns@*******longcoat.com**********> spake thusly:
>Opus is a single Dad who works hard and lives more for his daughter than
>anything else. He is
>a passionate father who in my opinion is a well adjusted Dad who is
>devoted to his child and her
>well being as well as her social and personal growth, both from what I
>have seen are doing well.
Awww shucks Terry...you're gonna make me blush. ;-)
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
"Opus-" <jbu...@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
spake thusly:
>
> >Opus is a single Dad who works hard and lives more for his daughter than
> Awww shucks (deleted)...you're gonna make me blush. ;-)
Hurl more likely.
I never denied that but I did question the decision to have the sig.
Anyhow that may all be true...but compare this sappy bit of writing that
made you blush to some of the other writings/rantings from that same person.
Just insert your own family situation into that bit of lunacy and see how
warm and fuzzy you would have felt.
** is bad news...plain and simple.
Filter him as fast as possible and move on with yer' lives.
I have and will again.
Its probably something that happens when one rides without mufflers or has a
bad gas/oil mix for too many years.
missjaney
successful, responsible adult. My son had Asberger's Syndrome, ADD, and they
thought he was borderline autisic, as well, we're still not sure about that
one. Will talk about it with you sometime, maybe I can share some insights
with you.
Miss Janey
"Opus-" <jbu...@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:mt5rfusnmdtdh6m1t...@4ax.com...
missjaney
are content with the subject matter, and you're bored, by all means, take
the show on the road and find some folks who may share your opinions, or at
least may be more entertaining. That's what I'd do, anyway, you may do as
you please.
Miss Janey
"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Peter D
--
Peter D
my_...@mts.net wrote in message ...
>X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:56:07 GMT, "ô-ô¬
taylorchuk
>³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>>Speaking of too highly...
>>
>>How come you have your message set up so that when I open it to read,
all
>>the text is HUGE characters?. UTF8.
>>
>>Sheesh'.. its bad enough reading your words in 10 point...but to see
it
>>stand out like the 30 foot woman. (a butt ugly one, I might add)...
its
>>much worse.
>>
>>Oh..but we're not having this conversation.
>>
>
missjaney
Miss Janey
"Terry Johns" <tjohns@++++++longcoat.com++++++++++> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 23:39:16 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >news:3mbL8.183646$xS2.14...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> >> Uncensored?
> >>
> >> HA!
> >>
> >> Yeah...you guys couldn't HANDLE uncensored.
> >>
> >> Bunch o' yappy..yappers.
> >>
> >> Thats all I'm saying on dis'.
> >
> >Come on, now, let's keep a civil tone, please. There's no call to be
> >slapping people. Everyone here is behaving themselves and carrying on a
> >respectful conversation. It would be good to keep it that way, don't you
> >think?
>
> When it comes to uncensored I could write another fairytale
> missjaney....
>
> >> But again..there is already a winnipeg happening site ...something like
> >new
> >> winnipeg or something.
> >
> >I know the site you're talking about. It's a good one, and very topical
and
> >radical in some ways. They recently had a mechanism through which they
> >allowed the viewers to 'fire' a lot of local politicians. It was great
fun.
> >
> >Miss Janey
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Don Doherty" <gu...@nothere.com> wrote in message
> >> news:vmeqfugpql9r25pil...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Tue, 04 Jun 2002 21:32:15 GMT, "missjaney"
<missj...@homail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >We'll talk <g>
> >> >
> >> > Well, you are the editor, of course, John and Shawn will submit their
> >> > stuff to you.
> >> >
> >> > Terry and spider will handel the web-e-commerce interface.
> >> > We do want to get paid ;)
> >> >
> >> > Namor will handel the tech hardware stuff and inn box. Also for
> >> > feasibility we should consider setting up a Usenet server (
> >> > uncensored........otherwise all the cheap bastards in the Peg won't
> >> > spend a dime on us ;)
> >> >
> >> > I, of course will continue to supply the administrative duties as my
> >> > life station dictates. Did I mention the T1 ;)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > cheers
> >> > Don
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
We're now on this SIG deal... as far as I can tell..and of course our
resident obsessed guy is on my tail like a Transonian' on a free pork chop.
"missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message
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ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
Figures.
"Peter D" <p...@se.ask> wrote in message
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> ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> --
> Peter D
>
> my_...@mts.net wrote in message ...
> >X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 15:56:07 GMT, "รfยด-รfยดร,ยฌ
> taylorchuk
missjaney
may change. It's like a cocktail party. If you get bored with the
conversation in one group of people, you grab a drink off the waiter's tray
and move on to the next bunch. Simple, eh?
Miss Janey
"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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Opus-
>X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 18:50:15 GMT, "ô-ôŽ taylorchuk
>ģŪ|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
<nothing of any value>
>pushin the envelope arn't you Don?
>I'd advise you to stop pursuing this fixation you have with Opus and his
>daughter, it's unhealthy.
Unhealthy indeed, to say the least.
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
> The purpose of any thread, is conversation and debate. The subject matter
> may change. It's like a cocktail party. If you get bored with the
> conversation in one group of people, you grab a drink off the waiter's
tray
> and move on to the next bunch. Simple, eh?
>
> Miss Janey
damn' ..somebody spilled another tray of drinks of the rug!
you can dress em up ..but you bloody well can't TAKE EM on a newsgroup.
Well...anyhow...could you please pass me the oeurdeorves (spelling) and tell
me where the bar is because you really can't be sober and chat with some of
these people.
I mean'...really.
I'lll have a budweiser and a gin/tonic...
So are you ready to tell us your deal MJ?
Are you a born Pegger or another Calgary outcast?
Oh yeah.... anything these nimrods tell you.... ignore it.
They're mostly just bitter old geeks.
Sargent Stubbs prances around the newsgroup with a cyber star on his chest
trying to be Officer Krupkee.
I'd say that someone should spill a drink on his head and knock some of the
tabasco sauce down his shirt..and then give him a super WEDGIE!
Opus-
spake thusly:
>I was proud of my son through his struggles, and proud of him now, as a
>successful, responsible adult. My son had Asberger's Syndrome, ADD, and they
>thought he was borderline autisic, as well, we're still not sure about that
>one. Will talk about it with you sometime, maybe I can share some insights
>with you.
I'd be glad to share some insights, and a few humorous anecdotes :-)
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
> On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:35:36 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> spake thusly:
> > >I was proud of my son through his struggles, and proud of him now, as a
> >successful, responsible adult. My son had Asberger's Syndrome, ADD, and
they
> >thought he was borderline autisic, as well, we're still not sure about
that
> >one. Will talk about it with you sometime, maybe I can share some
insights
> >with you.
>
> I'd be glad to share some insights, and a few humorous anecdotes :-)
>
Sure there are legitimate cases of add and similar conditions.
But how about sharing some anecdotes about how countless kids are being
misdiagnosed and put onto ritlin, prozac and more because :
a) teachers are too lazy to give extra care to active kids
b) parents are too lazy to do their own research and believe everything the
doctor tells them
c) parents don't adjust the kids diet and let them get hyped up on junk
food, colas and more and may not recognize food alergies.
Its just become the catchy label to throw on a kid who is often times just
being a kid.
Lots and lots of energy that the parents can't allow the kid to use up
because both of them are working and the kid is cooped up like a big dog in
a small appartment.
1. look at the kids diet
2. get the fat pig of a kid off the coke and the nintendo and outside
running around
3. don't take the first diagnosis that your lazy teacher or doctor might
throw at you
4. consider home schooling if all they want to do is drug up your kid
So yes..what I am saying is that there are alternatives and few people
question what their teacher or doctor lays at your doorstep.
They just order up the medication and screw the kid up even more.
Yes... I am only talking about some cases. Sure there are legitimate cases
who probably do require the regimen that the pharmaceutical industry wants
to sell.
Perhaps just more discipine....a father figure in the house who isn't too
pussified to say no to a kids request for a playstation 2 and an x box.
missjaney
>
> "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com> wrote in message
> news:35wL8.188689$xS2.14...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca...
> > The purpose of any thread, is conversation and debate. The subject
matter
> > may change. It's like a cocktail party. If you get bored with the
> > conversation in one group of people, you grab a drink off the waiter's
> tray
> > and move on to the next bunch. Simple, eh?
> >
> > Miss Janey
>
> damn' ..somebody spilled another tray of drinks of the rug!
>
> you can dress em up ..but you bloody well can't TAKE EM on a newsgroup.
>
> Well...anyhow...could you please pass me the oeurdeorves (spelling) and
tell
> me where the bar is because you really can't be sober and chat with some
of
> these people.
>
> I mean'...really.
Maybe you're just at the wrong party, kiddo.
>
> I'lll have a budweiser and a gin/tonic...
>
> So are you ready to tell us your deal MJ?
>
> Are you a born Pegger or another Calgary outcast?
Born in TO, been on the road ever since (it's that gypsy thing <g> ) Thunder
Bay, Detroit, Windsor, Winnipeg (for 2 cold and dreary weeks in November),
Calgary, Edmonton, Drumheller, Drayton Valley (townfolk discovered we were
gypsies and wouldn't let us kids go to school, and then one midnight forced
us to pack up our stuff into a dumptruck (they supplied) and hit the
road.Vancouver, Nanaimo, Queen Charlotte Islands, parts south of the border,
we got around.
>
> Oh yeah.... anything these nimrods tell you.... ignore it.
>
> They're mostly just bitter old geeks.
I don't take anything as gospel that someone says with malice. Those people
only come off looking small and mean, to me. Some of the closest friends
I've made along the way were people whom others were vociferously calling
down. It made me take a closer look at the people on the receiving end of
that nastiness, and they were, without exception, well worth my time and
energy. So as I've said before, I'll reserve judgement on what you say (and
what others say about you) and form my own opinions.
>
> Sargent Stubbs prances around the newsgroup with a cyber star on his chest
> trying to be Officer Krupkee.
No idea who it is you're talking about, but this isn't the sort of talk that
I care to hear anyway.
Btw, for those of you who are reading this post, I did delete some
gratuitous nastiness at the end, as per your request. Only left in what is
germaine to my comments.
Miss Janey
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
missjaney
>
> "Opus-" <jbu...@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:8p4tfuo5vn5f5p79p...@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:35:36 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> > spake thusly:
> > > >I was proud of my son through his struggles, and proud of him now, as
a
> > >successful, responsible adult. My son had Asberger's Syndrome, ADD, and
> they
> > >thought he was borderline autisic, as well, we're still not sure about
> that
> > >one. Will talk about it with you sometime, maybe I can share some
> insights
> > >with you.
> >
> > I'd be glad to share some insights, and a few humorous anecdotes :-)
> >
>
>
> Sure there are legitimate cases of add and similar conditions.
>
>
> But how about sharing some anecdotes about how countless kids are being
> misdiagnosed and put onto ritlin, prozac and more because :
exactly what happened to my son
>
> a) teachers are too lazy to give extra care to active kids
lazy no, misinformed and ill-equipped and poorly educated, yes
> b) parents are too lazy to do their own research and believe everything
the
> doctor tells them
Parents don't always have the options/resources necessary to make an
informed decision, and are often forced by the schools to medicate their
kids in order to even keep them in class. I was forced to take my son out of
school in grade two, and teach him myself. Best thing that could have
happened. I saw first hand what his needs and problems and strengths were.
> c) parents don't adjust the kids diet and let them get hyped up on junk
> food, colas and more and may not recognize food alergies.
I didn't. Diet helped a great deal, but it wasn't enough to satisfy the
schools.
>
> Its just become the catchy label to throw on a kid who is often times just
> being a kid.
No, there'ws much more to it than that. But sometimes it's just a neglected
kid's way of getting attention. Any attention is better than none, even if
you have to be an obnoxious little jerk to get it. Works for a lot of
people, and they take it with them into adulthood.
>
> Lots and lots of energy that the parents can't allow the kid to use up
> because both of them are working and the kid is cooped up like a big dog
in
> a small appartment.
As I said in previous paragraph.
>
> 1. look at the kids diet
> 2. get the fat pig of a kid off the coke and the nintendo and outside
> running around
> 3. don't take the first diagnosis that your lazy teacher or doctor might
> throw at you
> 4. consider home schooling if all they want to do is drug up your kid
>
> So yes..what I am saying is that there are alternatives and few people
> question what their teacher or doctor lays at your doorstep.
>
> They just order up the medication and screw the kid up even more.
>
> Yes... I am only talking about some cases. Sure there are legitimate cases
> who probably do require the regimen that the pharmaceutical industry wants
> to sell.
>
> Perhaps just more discipine....a father figure in the house who isn't too
> pussified to say no to a kids request for a playstation 2 and an x box.
All of that would help, and I would have loved to have a good father figure
in my kids' lives, but those are in very, very short supply. My hat's off to
Opus, and all the other good, loving, caring and proud dads (and moms) out
there.
Miss Janey
>
>
>
missjaney
> > > You're trying to reason with the unreasonable.
> >
> > Oh, I don't know about that. It's just a matter of establishing what's
> > appropriate in certain company and situations. I can get as rowdy as the
> > next guy when I'm at the Albert, but I do behave myself at the Palm
Room,
> if
> > I want to be allowed to come back <g>
> >
> > Miss
>
> Thats right.
>
> Personally, I think its high time that some of these old school posting
> males realize that the women of this cyber generation can get along just
> fine without them trying to hold the cyber doors for them, or curtsy in
> their presence.
I like having doors held for me. It's a courtesy, and it makes me feel
special and cared for.
>
> So Nunya can quite nicely park it and cork it and let MJ fend for
> her/himself.
I do that quite nicely, don't you think? <g>
>
> Whatever someone wants to do with or at the Palm Room..is none of my
> beeswax.
>
> I'm not saying...I'm just saying.
>
> Now... I would put a fiver on the table to have a good online catfight
with
> MJ and some other contender if there was any other non male old geek on
the
> newsgroup.
Tch, tch, tch! There you go again.
That's not going to happen. I don't stoop to that level. That's only for
people who lack the wit and verbal skills to state their case.
Miss Janey
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
DING DING DING..that gets a prize.
Not as good as Norm though..hes always been the resident wordsmith.
But you trimmed the nastiness?
That might have been the best parts!
Damn'... wish you'd see some of the nastiness that they've thrown at me over
8 years.
You remember Dr. Frankenstein.
They made me what I is....
I was a quiet mouse like character...like a hobbit on prozac..before these
neer do well hammerheads pummeled me into the studly geek that I am now.
I had to fight my way thru every post... a struggle... a battle ...
..but I have always been a giver.
i gave.
I gave.
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
1. that many kids are misdiagnosed
2. its often better to get a better school with less lazy teachers, or home
school
3. medication should never be the first and only option
4. the conditions are largely misunderstood all around
5. diet, environmental factors, plenty of stimulation around a kid etc are
all useful
So all in all... my comments were not at all out of line and very much in
keeping with what the experts in the field of adolescent pyschology would
say.
I rest my ...freakin' case.
Thank you...
thankyou very muchly
"Terry Johns" <tjohns@++++++longcoat.com++++++++++> wrote in message
news:r8atfucbfri4dv08k...@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:13:46 GMT, "missjaney" <missj...@homail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >news:5xwL8.96643$Ka.72...@news2.calgary.shaw.ca...
> >>
> >> "Opus-" <jbu...@mb.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> >> news:8p4tfuo5vn5f5p79p...@4ax.com...
> >> > On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 21:35:36 GMT, "missjaney"
<missj...@homail.com>
> >> > spake thusly:
> >> > > >I was proud of my son through his struggles, and proud of him now,
as
> >a
> >> > >successful, responsible adult. My son had Asberger's Syndrome, ADD,
and
> >> they
> >> > >thought he was borderline autisic, as well, we're still not sure
about
> >> that
> >> > >one. Will talk about it with you sometime, maybe I can share some
> >> insights
> >> > >with you.
> >> >
> >> > I'd be glad to share some insights, and a few humorous anecdotes :-)
>
> <snip>
>
> >> a) teachers are too lazy to give extra care to active kids
> >
> >lazy no, misinformed and ill-equipped and poorly educated, yes
>
> It is nice to see such a well informed person posting an opinion based
> on fact and not their own malice idea of the world....
>
> >> b) parents are too lazy to do their own research and believe everything
> >the
> >> doctor tells them
> >
> >Parents don't always have the options/resources necessary to make an
> >informed decision, and are often forced by the schools to medicate their
> >kids in order to even keep them in class. I was forced to take my son out
of
> >school in grade two, and teach him myself. Best thing that could have
> >happened. I saw first hand what his needs and problems and strengths
were.
>
> My nephew has/had ADD and I give my Sister all the credit in the
> world. They of course suggested medication but my Sister said no, she
> took him out of public school, cashed in all her RSP's and put him in
> a private school...(wish I could remember the name) and he flourished.
> She was always exhausted and worked so very hard...(she is also a
> single mom). He also loves my Harley and loves to ride on it...
>
> >> c) parents don't adjust the kids diet and let them get hyped up on junk
> >> food, colas and more and may not recognize food alergies.
> >
> >I didn't. Diet helped a great deal, but it wasn't enough to satisfy the
> >schools.
>
> My sister did the same and so do many many parents. It is unfortunate
> that people like bayomi exist to generalize and place "all" parents in
> his narrow minded way of life.....he should become more educated on
> the topics he wants to discuss instead of making a fool of himself all
> the time.
>
> >> Its just become the catchy label to throw on a kid who is often times
just
> >> being a kid.
> >
> >No, there'ws much more to it than that. But sometimes it's just a
neglected
> >kid's way of getting attention. Any attention is better than none, even
if
> >you have to be an obnoxious little jerk to get it. Works for a lot of
> >people, and they take it with them into adulthood.
>
> I had the same problem when dealing with MPI and a few other agencies
> that refused to believe that PTSD exists. It is uneducated people in
> places of authority that are ill equipped to handle anything that
> isn't in their hand book or individuals in the community who have no
> idea what they are talking about and simply spout off Jerry Springer
> or Howard Stern quotes.
>
> <snip bayomi drivel>
>
> >All of that would help, and I would have loved to have a good father
figure
> >in my kids' lives, but those are in very, very short supply. My hat's off
to
> >Opus, and all the other good, loving, caring and proud dads (and moms)
out
> >there.
>
> My sister uses me as a father figure and I try and help out when ever
> I can as well as help with kids in general. "Being there, done that,
> and got the T-Shirt" helps being accepted by the kids and most realize
> you know what you are talking about, silver spooned babies that never
> grow up tend not to be able to form legitimate opinions and are mostly
> ignored by kids...
>
> >Miss Janey
>
> I suspect you fall into the same category as Opus and my Sister and
> the first beer is on me.....
>
> Oh by the way I won't be hard to find, long silver, grey
> hair.....watching my harley from the window, lolololol
>
> Terry
>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
> ³®|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>
> >..but I have always been a giver.
> >
> >i gave.
> >
> >I gave.
>
> provider
Sheila Winterstone
A close reading of Mr. Taylorchuk's comments
actually suggests an adult version of ADD.
Is this a possibility?
If true, then it is indeed an irony.
Read the following and you tell me:
"?Windows-1252?B?9C30rCB0YXlsb3JjaHVrILOufEk?" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<ujBL8.190230$xS2.14...@news1.calgary.shaw.ca>...
> COULD YOU POSSIBLY USE SOME FORMAT TO MAKE EVEN BIGGER FREAKIN
> LETTERS!!!!! ? ???
>
> I mean....really!
>
>
> Hey can I call you Sargeant Jackboot Stubbs?
>
>
> Or maybe Herr Stubler.
>
>
> Now go sell knob elsewhere ..we're all full up here.
>
> I'd like to suspend your yapper in a leather strap and smack it with
> some wet noodles til you cry Uncle..thats what I'd like to suspend!
>
>
> now...quick someone talk about some good restaurants in Winnipeg.
>
>
>
>
>
> <my ho...@mts.net> wrote in message
> news:fsntfucta2c0mku2p...@4ax.com...
> > X-No-Archive: Yes On Wed, 05 Jun 2002 23:34:02 GMT, "??
> taylorchuk
> > ??|I" <taylo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > >..but I have always been a giver.
> > >
> > >i gave.
> > >
> > >I gave.
> >
> > you sure did, and got the one week Internet suspension for it from
> your
> > provider
>
> --
ô-ô¬ taylorchuk ³®|I
I'm kinda' gettin' partial to this Sheila poster'....
Can I keep her Stubs?
Come on can I? Can I?
She won't be no trouble'...just keep her in the basement'..with the
uthers'.....shoooooooot'.... just hope she ain't another redhead'.....
shucks'.....
Now come on' Uncle Stubs'...play me some more banjo music b'fore I go to
bed....come on....come on!!!
<my_...@mts.net> wrote in message
news:hv80gu0l96hi4uqu0...@4ax.com...
> X-No-Archive: Yes On 6 Jun 2002 20:09:22 -0700,
> SheilaWi...@yahoo.com (Sheila Winterstone) wrote:
>
> >There is a certain irony here.
> >A close reading of Mr. Taylorchuk's comments
> >actually suggests an adult version of ADD.
> >Is this a possibility?
> >
> >If true, then it is indeed an irony.
>
>
> was there ever a doubt that there was something wrong with him