Video Ripping
NoJuan
The other day, someone gave me a DVD with 8 episodes of Voyage To The Bottom
Of The Sea in .avi format.
Each 1 hour episode was about 550MB in length. I was absolutely shocked as
to the quality of these .avi were.
I have never .... ever been able to approach this level of quality when I
was doing my tapes, or even trying to rip my movies to dump onto my PS3.
These episodes were crystal clear and I would imagine, just a as clear and
sharp as the original content they were taken from. All without any form of
jittering, etc. All were perfectly smooth.
Anyone have ANY idea what these people were using? I've tried TONS of
different software over the years and have never come close to this kind of
quality.
Chili Finger
Also, if YOU shot the stuff on 8mm, don't expect the image quality to be
anywhere NEAR as good as what you find as torrented TV episodes.
A big problem with old VHS and 8mm tapes is the amount of noise in the
picture. All those little specks moving around on the screen will
murder your compression.
The best thing to do is have clean heads, use good shielded video cable,
and capture at the highest quality you can with the hardware
(uncompressed is the best option, but needs a fast PC).
Now you can experiment with your captured AVI file. Try Mpeg2, Mpeg4,
Divx, whatever.
I had a bunch of old 8mm tapes of family stuff. I just played the tape
and recorded it to my DVD recorder in SP (2hr). Does it real-time and I
don't tie up a computer and storage space.
You can always rip those DVD's for editing, quality should be pretty
good, no need to wear out the original tapes any further.
You might want to look at a Digital-8 deck/camcorder. They have
FireWire out , but not sure if that part works when playing back analog
tapes. This would give you the best possible capture quality.
CFx
That Canadian Kid
news:cXeRm.72288$W77....@newsfe11.iad:
> Need some info Juan. What hardware and software are you using right
> now?
>
> Also, if YOU shot the stuff on 8mm, don't expect the image quality to
> be anywhere NEAR as good as what you find as torrented TV episodes.
>
> A big problem with old VHS and 8mm tapes is the amount of noise in the
> picture. All those little specks moving around on the screen will
> murder your compression.
>
> The best thing to do is have clean heads, use good shielded video
> cable,
> and capture at the highest quality you can with the hardware
> (uncompressed is the best option, but needs a fast PC).
>
> Now you can experiment with your captured AVI file. Try Mpeg2, Mpeg4,
> Divx, whatever.
>
> I had a bunch of old 8mm tapes of family stuff. I just played the
> tape and recorded it to my DVD recorder in SP (2hr). Does it
> real-time and I don't tie up a computer and storage space.
>
> You can always rip those DVD's for editing, quality should be pretty
> good, no need to wear out the original tapes any further.
>
> You might want to look at a Digital-8 deck/camcorder. They have
> FireWire out , but not sure if that part works when playing back
> analog tapes. This would give you the best possible capture quality.
>
> CFx
<snip>
LOL, yup you are not bayomi, nope not you, lololololol, you and nobody make
me laugh ROTF
NoJuan
"Chili Finger" <Chili...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Need some info Juan. What hardware and software are you using right now?
I know I won't get dvd quality out of 8mm. Let's forget that for the moment.
These avi rips were JUST AS GOOD as the originals at 550MB per hour. I've
got a 2 year old Gigabyte MB on a dual core pentium. That shouldn't matter.
What I'd love to know is what software these guys used.
homepc
"NoJuan" <n...@where.com> wrote in message
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http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonedvd-mobile.html
For duplicating DVD's consider using ANYDVD to strip away any protection and
then if you still need to, use Clone DVD to create another DVD, or Clone DVD
Mobile to create avi's. I download all my avi's and never bother to rip any
DVDs. An office co-worker got ANYDVD and Clone DVD just before they
discontinued the lifetime free updates and he's had no complaints.
Duplicating VHS or 8mm tapes are a different issue, and the copies will not
ever be as clear as what you are describing.
Tom
The source material was probably ripped from an original DVD. The conversion
to AVI would have been done with one of the more modern H.264 or DivX
encoders. If you're lucky, the files might contain tags that tell you exactly
which encoder software & version was used. Any codec that was released within
the past year should give you similar results.
As for getting good captures from your own analog source, it's really
important to clean up as much of the noise as possible before doing the
compression. Some of the higher end hardware encoder cards (like an old
Hauppauge PVR-350) will do a pretty amazing job at this, even if they are only
MPEG-2.
Chili Finger
ain't you or I.
CFx
Nobody wrote:
> That Canadian Kid wrote:
>> LOL, yup you are not bayomi, nope not you, lololololol, you and
>> nobody make me laugh ROTF
>
> You really like looking like a dumbass, don't you?
NoJuan
to the quality of these avi's.
I've beginning to think these .avi's were done on professional hardware
based equipment.
"homepc" <wieb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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NoJuan
"Tom" <t...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> The source material was probably ripped from an original DVD. The
> conversion
> to AVI would have been done with one of the more modern H.264 or DivX
> encoders. If you're lucky, the files might contain tags that tell you
> exactly
> which encoder software & version was used. Any codec that was released
> within
> the past year should give you similar results.
Can you recommend any prog that would read the tags?
homepc
Gspot:
http://www.headbands.com/gspot/index.htm
Considering an average DIVX/XVID movie file with about 735 MB for 1'30" of
video can be very good and 1470 MB file size for the same video can be
great, a 550 MB file size for 50" of video may understandably be of better
quality.
Just a quick search in WinMX shows episodes 01x01 525175196 bytes and 01x02
535451924 bytes. Are these the same size files you have?
I had a fellow rip Sherlock Holmes (PBS series) for me and the first few
episodes were about 550 MB in size. The picture was very good, but the
sound was outstanding. The rest of the series were around 365 MB and while
the picture quality was much the same, the sound wasn't as bright.
"NoJuan" <n...@where.com> wrote in message
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Frosty
That Canadian Kid
@newsfe25.iad:
> WTF is this guy's misfunction? Someone is wearing a tinfoil hat, and it
> ain't you or I.
>
> CFx
Why would what I think bother you so much, seems to me you are letting it
get to you way to much.
It actually only started out as a suggestion, you and Nobody seemed to have
elevated it to a level where now everyone is thinking you are who you say
you are not.
By the way, my statement was simple, I just suggested to myhome I believe
that just because Bayomi's headers said he was posting from one place
really didn't mean he was, Nobody is the one that wanted to elevate it.
I then showed him that my headers show one thing and mean nothing since
they in no way point to where I really am.....
But I think with posters like you and Nobody my tinhat is needed now more
than ever.....yours on the other hand hasn't been working for years.
Chili Finger
CFx
That Canadian Kid
> Nobody cares. And that includes me.
>
> CFx
If that is really the truth why would you even post your idiotic shit,
somewhere in my posts you have been truly upset and just needed to post
your bayomi like assaults. You really should ignore me.
But then again Baymoi couldn't either, lol
That Canadian Kid
209.197.15.171:
> 202.177.16.121
I am waiting for you to suggest this ip "202.177.16.121" belongs to
teranews...lololololololol
"202.177.16.121 = [ 202-177-16-121.kddi.net.hk ]
(Asked whois.apnic.net:43 about 202.177.16.121)
inetnum: 202.177.0.0 - 202.177.31.255
netname: KDD-HK
descr: KDDI HONG KONG LIMITED
descr: ISP in Hong Kong
descr: KDDI is an international telecommunication company in
Japan
country: HK
admin-c: HK191-AP
tech-c: DK104-AP
remarks: service provider
remarks: --------------------------
remarks: This object can only be updated by APNIC hostmasters.
remarks: To update this object please contact APNIC
remarks: hostmasters and include your organisation's account
remarks: name in the subject line.
remarks: --------------------------
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-HK-KDDIHK
mnt-routes: MAINT-HK-KDDIHK
changed: hostm...@apnic.net
19970310
changed: hm-ch...@apnic.net
20030408
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
changed: hm-ch...@apnic.net
20040519
changed: hm-ch...@apnic.net
20040907
source: APNIC
person: Helpdesk KDDI
nic-hdl: HK191-AP
e-mail: adm...@kddi.com.hk
address: 10/F West Warwick house Taikoo Place Quarry Bay Hong
phone: 28561373
fax-no: 852-28563616
country: HK
changed: ang...@kddi.com.hk
20040429
mnt-by: MAINT-NEW
source: APNIC
person: Data Centre KDDI
nic-hdl: DK104-AP
e-mail: te...@kddi.com.hk
address: KDDI Hong Kong Limited
address: 10/F West Warwick house Taikoo Place Quarry Bay Hong
Kong
phone: 28561373
fax-no: 28563616
country: HK
changed: ang...@kddi.com.hk
20040429
mnt-by: MAINT-NEW
source: APNIC
(Asked whois.arin.net:43 about +202.177.16.121) (show)"
NoJuan
to the quality of these avi's.
I've beginning to think these .avi's were done on professional hardware
based equipment.
"homepc" <wieb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hf46sg$lvd$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>
That Canadian Kid
209.197.15.171:
> That Canadian Kid wrote:
>
>> Nobody <n...@home.anymore> wrote in
>> news:Xns9CD5BCF2F434C204153245131@ 209.197.15.171:
>>
>>> 202.177.16.121
>>
>> I am waiting for you to suggest this ip "202.177.16.121" belongs
>> to teranews...lololololololol
>>
>> "202.177.16.121 = [ 202-177-16-121.kddi.net.hk ]
>>
>> (Asked whois.apnic.net:43 about 202.177.16.121)
>
> Why would I? That server doesn't hide your real IP address like tera
> does so this line is the important one:
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.11.115.235
> Reverse shows: 69-11-115-235.regn.wbbi.static.sasknet.sk.ca
>
> That points to sasktel which is where you have your fancy microwave
> account. Did you intend on displaying your real IP address?
>
> You really don't know much about how thgings work, do you?
>
> Check out the beating you got in my other reply to you.
>
> You are such a dumbass that it takes zero effort to make you look
> like an idiot. Can you be more of a challenge?
You really didn't give me or anyone else a beating son. I am going to be
gentle here.
After all your smoke and mirrors, all your little games, insults and
pretence you have done the obvious, you proved everything I said as truth.
The initial post in response to WTF about chili and his headers was simply
but distinctly pointing out that headers mean nothing. You took offense to
that and went about trying to prove me wrong but in that attempt you simply
proved me right.
While posting using teranews you simply had no idea who I was, where I was,
and would never have even come close had I not told you exactly where I am
and who is my isp. While posting using teranews my headers told you
absolutely nothing and in this post you even admit it.
Once I gave you the information I wanted you to have you then began to
understand and get angry so instead of accepting your defeat you descided
to blow smoke up everyones ass and use mirrors as deception.
After all is said and done I stand by what I said at the very beginning of
all your temper tantrum garbage. Headers in a news group mean nothing and
will not tell you where a person is posting from unless they themselves
open the gate, which I have now done with you.
Time to go to bed children.
That Canadian Kid
209.197.15.171:
> I tire of making you look stupid on this topic. I will wait for you
> to say something stupid in another thread and beat you up again. It
> shouldn't be long.
>
No where in any of your posts have you ever address what I said, that
headers really do you no good. Once again if I hadn't informed you of my
isp, where I was living or had changed my news server none of this would
ever had been apparent to you. This is something you can't seem to admit.
Although I think I will give you an E for effort when it comes to name
calling and bouncing around the issue.
So to those that care or even reading this thread, use free.teranews.com
and this Nobody will never have a clue.
As I have said on several occassions, headers cannot be trusted to tell you
anything when reading them, this Nobody has yet to understand english,
maybe if I put it in hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dog he might understand.
Nobody, you definitaly are a Nobody....good luck in your job seeking
endeavours I won't be hiring you.
WTF
wrote:
-->Nobody <n...@home.anymore> wrote in news:Xns9CD5BCF2F434C204153245131@
-->209.197.15.171:
-->
-->> 202.177.16.121
-->
-->I am waiting for you to suggest this ip "202.177.16.121" belongs to
-->teranews...lololololololol
No
Your IP is 69.11.115.235 from sasknet.sk.ca
Regina, SK
Do you want me to do an ip search as well, then we'll all
know who you are.
That Canadian Kid
news:hnuih5l08q04t7tkj...@4ax.com:
Please do, this is going to be interesting.
That Canadian Kid
news:hnuih5l08q04t7tkj...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 01:51:21 +0000 (UTC), That Canadian Kid
btw you were the one that could have sworn I was posting from a shaw
account now werent you....seems you were wrong about that as well.
That Canadian Kid
209.197.15.171:
> That Canadian Kid wrote:
>
> OK, One last reply. You seem to be slow learner and I like making
> you look stupid.
>
>> No where in any of your posts have you ever address what I said,
>> that headers really do you no good.
>
> Probably because you are wrong on that point. They do a lot of good
> if you know what to look for. You, it seems, don't.
Sigh, if you say so...
>> Once again if I hadn't
>> informed you of my isp, where I was living or had changed my news
>> server none of this would ever had been apparent to you. This is
>> something you can't seem to admit.
>
> When you posted using the non tera server, the headers contained your
> REAL IP address.
This is true, but I told you where I was posting from long before I
changed to a non tera server and, as I said you could not use the tera
server headers for much of anything except to trace back to tera news.
> Remember that I had indicated that you used tera AND the sasktel
> server. Seems like it was VERY apparent. Did you ever bother to do a
> RDNS on your real IP?
Actually while I was ON the tera server and before I used a non tera
server you never mentioned sasktel until I told you.
>> Although I think I will give you an E for effort when it comes to
>> name calling and bouncing around the issue.
>>
>> So to those that care or even reading this thread, use
>> free.teranews.com and this Nobody will never have a clue.
>
> You have to be about the thickest person I have run across in some
> time. I tell you straight out what servers you are using and you
> still don't get it.
While I was on the tera servers you at no time were able to tell me I
was on anything, simple as that, reread the posts.
> The REAL funny thing is that you don't know the difference between
> Highwinds Network Group and Highwinds-media yet say headers are
> meaningless. To YOU they would be.
I am not the one who suggested I was on highwinds actually you and WTF
did that all on your own.
>> As I have said on several occassions, headers cannot be trusted to
>> tell you anything when reading them, this Nobody has yet to
>> understand english,
>
> They can be trusted to show plenty to one that has a clue how to use
> them. It appears you are not in that group.
Lololol, you are so very transparent, the thread tells it all you simply
twist it so well.
>> maybe if I put it in hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dog
>> he might understand.
>
> You should be good at dog. Most of them have your IQ. Some likely
> higher.
Well that puts me at least 10 IQ points above you and a whole lot higher
on the honesty and integrity scale.
>> Nobody, you definitaly are a Nobody....good luck in your job
>> seeking endeavours I won't be hiring you.
>
> Who would want to work for a dumbass like yourself? Are you sure you
> are not in over your head at your job at McDonald's?
Most McDonald's employees have more integrity than you.
That Canadian Kid
news:hnuih5l08q04t7tkj...@4ax.com:
> On Thu, 3 Dec 2009 01:51:21 +0000 (UTC), That Canadian Kid
Lol, are you going to threaten to call my ISP as you have with other users,
now your headers have told me lots....you should change some settings when
you change your identity string
That Canadian Kid
209.197.15.171:
> The headers in his last post show you nothing useful except his
> newsreader.
>
> Besides, YOU said that headers don't tell you anything, remember?
> LOL
Not unless the person forgets to change some of his indentity string when
switching from one to the other....
Chili Finger
sharp, detailed original file that is 720x480, it's fairly easy to
create a Divx or other file that is maybe 512x384 with a lower bit rate
and still make it look sweet.
And it's not always the program being used, but the settings you choose.
A live-action video might look like crap if you selected an "Animation"
encode profile.
CFx