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JJ

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Dec 10, 2009, 5:14:31 PM12/10/09
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It's only a matter of time till these arrive here.

Ontario is cracking down on some of the most persistent, dangerous driving
behaviours.

Effective January 1, 2010, penalties for the following offences will
increase:

* failure to stop at a red light - the maximum fine will increase from $500
to $1,000

* failure to wear a seat belt and failure to ensure passengers under 16 are
properly secured - the maximum fine will increase from $500 to $1,000

* careless driving and failure to remain at the scene of a collision - the
maximum fine will increase from $1,000 to $2,000. Other existing maximum
penalties for these offences will remain, including a two-year licence
suspension and six-month jail term.

Penalties for drivers who do not pull over and stop for emergency vehicles
or who follow fire vehicles too closely will undergo the greatest change:

* first offence: a maximum fine of $2,000, three demerit points plus a
possible two-year licence suspension -- up from the current maximum penalty
of a $500 fine.

* subsequent offences (within five years): a maximum fine of $4,000 fine,
three demerit points, a two-year driver's licence suspension and a six-month
prison sentence - up from the current maximum penalty of a $500 fine.

Diane Gall

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:25:48 PM12/10/09
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No one in Winnipeg will be able to afford gas.

Di

Chili Finger

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:59:40 PM12/10/09
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I've gotten maybe 4 parking tickets in my 22 years driving.

Never had a moving violation (I know two people who would argue about
that, but for the record, the bus we were on was stopped when I put my
hand out as the young lady walked past and I 'brushed' her ass & parts).

But seriously, If I got hit ONCE with a $1,000 fine, that's just a a
spot of bad luck.. I know careless drivers who get nailed by the cops
frequently. Boost those rates and maybe people will drive better.

CFx

homepc

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Dec 11, 2009, 1:14:00 PM12/11/09
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"Chili Finger" <Chili...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Boost those rates and maybe people will drive better.
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> CFx
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It's an excellent idea to penalize bad driving habits, but there is a point
of diminished returns. A few drivers with a checkered history ( due to
their poor driving skills or maybe even a combination of plain bad luck )
living near or below the poverty line may eventually give up and refuse to
pay the new exorbitant fines and decide to flout the law instead.

As an alternative to piling up fines on some bad drivers below a certain
income who absolutely need to use their car for family or job related
situations, perhaps driver re-education and repeat testing along with some
driving restrictions might be considered to avoid undue financial hardship.
The extra revenue generated from citizens who can afford to pay or view
these obvious cash grab fines as an annoyance rather than a devastating
financial blow, can offset the additional costs incurred.

Before I get flamed for this suggestion, please note I said SOME drivers.
There are lots of individuals in our society who are sadly beyond
redemption. Regardless of how many fines or chances they are afforded, they
still won't get it.


Rick

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Dec 13, 2009, 12:42:18 PM12/13/09
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"Chili Finger" <Chili...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've gotten maybe 4 parking tickets in my 22 years driving.
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> Never had a moving violation

What about that one last year where you got tagged speeding in a
construction zone?

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