I'm a little confused: from what I read v4.0 is about 54 MB (x86+x64) vs.
nearly 250 MB of 3.5 Sp1.

Am I right? Is the full size so small compared with other versions?

I'm not speaking about client profile that should be around 37 MB.

Corrado

Hey Corrado, your numbers look right.

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Corrado Cavalli
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] .NET 4.0 Full Size

I'm a little confused: from what I read v4.0 is about 54 MB (x86+x64) vs. nearly 250 MB of 3.5 Sp1.
Am I right? Is the full size so small compared with other versions?
I'm not speaking about client profile that should be around 37 MB.

Corrado

Holy cow. Did you guys just went ahead and removed all unused stuff, like
WinForms, ASP.NET WebForms and other legacies from the past? (ducks and runs
;))

Cheers,

Laurent

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jaime Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:39 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

Hey Corrado, your numbers look right.  

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Corrado Cavalli
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] .NET 4.0 Full Size

I'm a little confused: from what I read v4.0 is about 54 MB (x86+x64) vs.
nearly 250 MB of 3.5 Sp1.

Am I right? Is the full size so small compared with other versions?

I'm not speaking about client profile that should be around 37 MB.

Corrado

Well, that would make me a happy bunny. The rest is just fluff for those who
aren't studly (or foxy for our lady members) enough to handle WPF and
Silverlight.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:09 AM, Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft <

Hey Jaime,

What a diet! Can i ask how did you trimmed it to 1/3rd of the 3.5 SP1? Just
sport & Diet Coke? J

Thanks

Corrado

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jaime Rodriguez
Sent: mercoledì 4 novembre 2009 09:39
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

Hey Corrado, your numbers look right.  

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Corrado Cavalli
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] .NET 4.0 Full Size

I’m a little confused: from what I read v4.0 is about 54 MB (x86+x64) vs.
nearly 250 MB of 3.5 Sp1.

Am I right? Is the full size so small compared with other versions?

I’m not speaking about client profile that should be around 37 MB.

Corrado

They just zipped all the assemblies J

Laurent

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Corrado Cavalli
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 3:14 PM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

Hey Jaime,

What a diet! Can i ask how did you trimmed it to 1/3rd of the 3.5 SP1? Just
sport & Diet Coke? J

Thanks

Corrado

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Jaime Rodriguez
Sent: mercoledì 4 novembre 2009 09:39
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

Hey Corrado, your numbers look right.  

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Corrado Cavalli
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] .NET 4.0 Full Size

I’m a little confused: from what I read v4.0 is about 54 MB (x86+x64) vs.
nearly 250 MB of 3.5 Sp1.

Am I right? Is the full size so small compared with other versions?

I’m not speaking about client profile that should be around 37 MB.

Corrado

I think they just dropped all the DataSet-related crapola. ;)

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft <

No - no assemblies were removed with .NET 4.0.  Instead we optimized the setup technology and compression and did a few other tricks which made the package smaller.

Note that 54MB is x86+x64.  There is also a smaller package (I think 36MB) for just x86.  There is then the client profile which is under 30MB for WPF/WinForms and client development.

Thanks,

Scott

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Josh Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:28 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

I think they just dropped all the DataSet-related crapola. ;)
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft <laur...@galasoft.ch<mailto:laur...@galasoft.ch>> wrote:
Holy cow. Did you guys just went ahead and removed all unused stuff, like WinForms, ASP.NET<http://ASP.NET> WebForms and other legacies from the past? (ducks and runs ;))

Cheers,
Laurent

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com<mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com> [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com<mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.co m>] On Behalf Of Jaime Rodriguez
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 9:39 AM

To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com<mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

Hey Corrado, your numbers look right.

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com<mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com> [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com<mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.co m>] On Behalf Of Corrado Cavalli
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 12:26 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com<mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [WPF Disciples] .NET 4.0 Full Size

I'm a little confused: from what I read v4.0 is about 54 MB (x86+x64) vs. nearly 250 MB of 3.5 Sp1.
Am I right? Is the full size so small compared with other versions?
I'm not speaking about client profile that should be around 37 MB.

Corrado

Excellent work. Small footprint is nice.

Excellent news Scott - I know a few of the WPF gainsayers on Code Project
that I can shut up with this. I owe you a pint or two for that;->

Right, it's important to stress out that the uncompressed versions are still
big framework whales.

The full .Net 4.0 uncompressed takes about 400MB~ (.Net 3.5SP1 is 385MB~),
and Client profile is around 250MB~.

All in all, Silverlight uncompressed is about 24MB and 4MB~ compressed, and
takes less than 10 seconds to install.

Silverlight is the framework equivalent of a blowfish.

Mono and Moonlight (which are alternative .Net implementations for "other"
operating systems) have similar size stats.

But as someone described last week: "Mono isn't a whale, it's a beautiful
and regal manatee".

-- Justin

(Really, how often do you get to use pictures of manatees in this job? This
is my first time.)

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Guthrie
Sent: November-04-09 9:12 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

No - no assemblies were removed with .NET 4.0.  Instead we optimized the
setup technology and compression and did a few other tricks which made the
package smaller.

Note that 54MB is x86+x64.  There is also a smaller package (I think 36MB)
for just x86.  There is then the client profile which is under 30MB for
WPF/WinForms and client development.

Thanks,

Scott

From: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com [mailto:wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Josh Smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:28 AM
To: wpf-disciples@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WPF Disciples] Re: .NET 4.0 Full Size

I think they just dropped all the DataSet-related crapola. ;)

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Laurent Bugnion, GalaSoft

Corrado

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