> I have been reading one of the iPhone reviews on ComputerWorld
> Online and have been very amused by how the reviewer keeps saying
> how sexy the device is while describing functionality that I
> consider very basic. I have attached a draft of a blog for my PDA
> Guerrilla blog on ComputerWorld Online in response, in the hopes
> that some of you will read it and give me your thoughts.
>
Just a couple of comments. I agree for the most part with what you've
written - this, as you, from one who has not used the device.
I think some of the missing features will be addressed with software
updates including some of the missing features in the broswer. (I
mean, come on - who ever heard of modern day cell phone without voice
dialing? I'm still thunderstruck that Apple let this out in the wild
without such a basic feature). And are you sure you can't answer the
phone with a BT headset? I know you can with the included wired headset.
Again, I believe I've read that some of the corporate email issues
will be addressed through a software update. But don't forget - this
device isn't really being targeted to the corporate market. In fact,
Apple is almost 100% focused on the consumer and creative
professionals. (XServes being the exception).
There is some, kinda sort of, development allowed through Safari. Not
sure how far that can be taken though.
The inability to use a BT keyboard is almost insane - another case in
my mind of "what was Apple thinking"?
In its current form, I can not even conceive of buying one of these
things - it's too limited compared to what I'm used to. But honestly,
I suspect that you and I and most folks in this group aren't Apple's
target either. Me - I'll take the HTC Touch over an iPhone in its
current form. But there will be an iPhone 2.0 - and I'll bet it'll
evolve into a more droolworthy device as it grows.
Don
> 16 The iPhone.doc
> 43KDownload
Bert, that is indeed the case. I was talking to someone over the
weekend who was telling me all that the iPhone could do. He was amazed
when I told him that my Q could do just as much, and had some features
(such as adding software) missing from the Apple. Frankly I just don't
see what is groundbreaking about this device. It's a very nice piece
of design, but unless you need to carry an iPod around, it's a lot of
money just for a phone. I had to drive to a closing this morning
(total time in the car: 2+ hours) and I listened to a book for the
whole trip on my Q, As someone else on this site has said (I can't
remember who) this device will appeal to people who don't know what
existing smartphones can do.
Bert
On Jul 2, 4:54 pm, "Bert Latamore" < bert.latam...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been reading one of the iPhone reviews on ComputerWorld Online and
> have been very amused by how the reviewer keeps saying how sexy the device
> is while describing functionality that I consider very basic. I have
> attached a draft of a blog for my PDA Guerrilla blog on ComputerWorld Online
> in response, in the hopes that some of you will read it and give me your
> thoughts.
>
> --
> Bert Latamore
> Freelance Writer/Photographer
> ComputerWorld Online Columnist
>
> 16 The iPhone.doc
> 43KDownload
Don
I did read (I think on one or another of the Apple blogs) that Apple
may be in negotiations to license the ActiveSync Exchange technology
to allow Exchange integration on the iPhone. I don't know whether we
can take that seriously or not.
By the way, Don, I don't think any Blackberry device allows voice
dialing. As one reviewer of the 8700 (the model my employer provides
me) said, "What does RIM have against voice dialing?"
>
> Just posted the first part of my thoughts on the iPhone: http://
> www.jeffkirvin.net/2007/07/02/the-iphone-is-a-bad-phone/
>
It's ironic that I own three Apple computers, an iPod and an Airport
Extreme 802.11n, which would probably make me qualify as a fanboy,
but I agree that I don't see the value in this phone as it currently
exists. Oh the technology is cool and I'd LOVE to see a standalone
iPod with the iPhone's iPod features. But as a whole, I think the
device lacks a BUNCH.
Imagine if Microsoft had put out something like this - the whole
world would be trouncing it. (Although for all its flaws, it is an
elegant piece of gear and Microsoft is hardly known for elegance -
Zune being a major case in point here). But it seems that Golden Boy
Jobs can do no wrong these days and quite frankly, I find that
disturbing. I gotta side with Jeff on this one - it just ain't all that.
Don't get me wrong - I love my Macs and my iPod and I'm really
looking forward to the release of Leopard. But I think the iPhone is
hardly worth all the hype it received and I wonder how many folks
will wind up regretting the purchase or fiercely defending it because
they don't want to admit they paid too much for something that does
too little.
It will be very interesting to see how the iPhone develops because I
think it has potential. But in its current state... get real.
Don
It has no groundbreaking features, but it does have a groundbreaking
interface. It looks like it is head and shoulders above anything else
out there.
First, it is gorgeous. I'm not aware of any mobile interface that is
like it. Dave Winer said that using the iPhone gives him the same
feeling as driving a BMW. He also said:
"You don't want to give it to someone, you want to just hold it. I
know it sounds silly and dorky, geez it's just a phone, after all, but
it's not. It's a totem. A symbol. A charm. A fortune cookie. It's
personal. It's mine.
Yes I know I sound like Gollum. ;->"
( http://www.scripting.com/stories/2007/07/02/whyILoveTheIphone.html )
This is the kind of thing that makes a device popular, moreso than the
spec sheet.
Second, it seems very well thought out. It appears that nothing is
more than a few taps away from the home screen. I haven't heard
anyone grumbling about critical settings being buried under obscure
menus.
Third, the input innovations, such as flick, double tap (as in 2
fingers, not 2 taps), and pinch in/out, are great. Until the iPhone,
that kind of stuff could only be seen in prototype demos. The
combination of hardware and software controls to do things like lock
the screen and power off, are really quite clever, too.
Yes, it's feature set is pretty anemic compared with what we're used
to. And it's an Apple product, so they're going to do stupid stuff
like not allow any third party programs. Therefore, I probably won't
own one. However, I am looking forward to the copycats!
John
http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2007/07/04/iphone-hands-on/
iPhone Hands-on
Okay, I’ve seen the iPhone in person now and my opinion still stands. It’s sleek, stylish and completely ill-suited to any of its intended uses. The phone we’ve covered, so I won’t belabor the point. But what about the rest?
The user interface
The UI on the iPhone is amazing, just gorgeous. The animation between screens is quick but just enough to serve as a useful visual transition from screen to screen. Zooming in and out in Pictures or Safari is quick and intuitive and scrolling using a thumb couldn’t be easier. The Palm-esque home button works reliably and every screen makes maximum use of every pixel on the likewise Palm-esque HVGA screen. This is what the Palm TX should have looked like.
I did find it odd that the auto-sensing rotation worked for some apps but not others. Even without the keyboard up, there’s no way to view the Notes application in landscape, for example.
In many ways, the iPhone reminds me of the HTC Touch in reverse. While both devices sport finger-friendly and artistically gorgeous home screens, on the Touch you find yourself digging for the stylus and familiar Windows Mobile complexity once you get past the veneer. On the iPhone, by contrast, once you get past the beauty and style of the UI, you pretty much have nothing.
Media
The iPhone is just another iPod in many ways, and the user interface makes it the most fun iPod to date. The big on-screen buttons, easily scrollable lists and gigantic album art make this more fun than browsing your old LP collection (what we old timers had before CDs, kids). Displaying pictures and playing music is a breeze.
As well it should be, on a $600 Nano. This is an iPod where you’re paying over $100 per gigabyte. Not even the original iPod was that expensive for what you got.
Web
Safari works as advertised. It’s easy to zoom into the page you want, the device rotates automatically to portrait or landscape depending on how you hold it, and opening and managing “tabs” is both easy and slick. Text is surprisingly readable even at small sizes. It’s great for reading web pages, and I found that dragging the screen around worked surprisingly well to find stuff. Even zoomed out, links were easy to tap on and I didn’t miss a one. If your web activity is primarily as a consumer, the iPhone is hard to beat as a web tablet.
However, text entry sucks. I have big fingers so I expected to have some difficulty with the keyboard. Using a Windows Mobile Professional device, however, I also have a lot of experience with touchscreens so I wasn’t too intimidated. It worked adequately for me, and I was able to smoothly work around most of the issues I had (by the way, the keyboard works much, much better in Safari if you tip it over landscape, though it does take up over half the screen that way).
But the telling factor wasn’t how well I adapted to the iPhone. I’m an old pro with mobile tech and I expected to master the device quickly. More interesting was the reaction of my friend Roland’s daughter Lori. She’s twelve and thin with long, lean fingers. Like most of her generation, she also takes to cell phones like they’re a body part. So I watched to see what she thought of it.
“This sucks!” she shouted in frustration. She’d been trying to log in to a web site and her user name contains an underscore. This is a fairly common character in a lot of user_names and email_addresses so she was frustrated that she couldn’t find it at all on the iPhone keyboard. I showed her that she had to type the alphabetic characters, then tap the numbers key on the keyboard, which takes you to ten digits and most of the more common punctuation, but not the underscore. Then she had to tap the number key again to get to the next (third) layer of the keyboard, where the underscore finally appeared on the same key as the dash before it and the letter A before that.
The iPhone’s vaunted simplicity is only skin deep, in other words. Once you try to actually do anything with it, like type a username with an underscore, you have to jump through non-intuitive hoops to get there. Assuming there is a there there at all. The camera only takes pictures in 2MP size, and only sends them by email and only sends them resized to VGA. No way to override any of that, and no way to set the camera for presets like sport, burst, MMS, etc.
Several people have pointed out that the iPhone is what Palm should have been working on instead of the Foleo, and I’m inclined to agree that a big-screened, high-resolution tablet phone would have been a better investment. But only because I know Palm would have succeeded where Apple has failed. The Zen of Palm would have dictated a TX-based cell phone be simpler and more intuitive than something like the HTC Touch, but Palm wouldn’t have simplified the device by crippling its use.
I got your post at the same time an iPhone commercial came on. I think
it was the first time I paid attention to the narrator. I paraphrase,
but he mentioned how this is an iPod like no other. I guess that answers
how we should view the iPhone. If you come at it from the iPod
perspective, then I guess one might be willing to have an iPod that does
extra (answer calls, design and Apple premium.)
Your friend's daughter sounds like a phone power user. Anyone who does
anything more than answer calls or listens to music on a portable device
will likely be disappointed by the iPhone. Although it is a stereotype,
I think anyone under 25 is a power user of consumer electronics. It will
be hard to see how this demographic will be satisfied once, as you put
it, it gets beneath the good looks. Which suggests that Apple is aiming
for the broad middle that still is wary of a device that does too many
things.
Yup, more peanut gallery pop psychology.
I think I don't have a reaction at all to the iPhone; it didn't strike
me as succeeding wildly nor do I see it failing. I know when it first
was announced, I was excited because the lack of precise specs made the
iPhone seem like the Palm Tx on crack. Imagine my surprise when Apple
announced that no SDK will be forthcoming and no 3rd party developers
will be fostered. That killed the joy. The lack of an SDK is what makes
the iPhone a skin deep beauty.
All the problems you mentioned can probably be patched over by 3rd party
developers. Think about people like Dmitry Grinberg, Alex Pruss, Paul
Nevai, and Tyler Faux who have gone beyond writing programs to patch
things at the "kernel level". With that said, I still don't see the
iPhone falling on its face. It will be the cool thing to have; the price
point will move, however slightly. For the mass consumer who entertains
notions that he's a tech geek, this is a pleasant enough way of dipping
into the waters.
mcc
Jeff Kirvin wrote:
>
> http://www.jeffkirvin.net/2007/07/04/iphone-hands-on/
>
> iPhone Hands-on
>
> Okay, I’ve seen the iPhone in person now and my opinion still stands.
> It’s sleek, stylish and completely ill-suited to any of its intended
> uses. The phone we’ve covered, so I won’t belabor the point. But what
> about the rest?
>
> *The user interface*
>
> The UI on the iPhone is amazing, just gorgeous. The animation between
> screens is quick but just enough to serve as a useful visual
> transition from screen to screen. Zooming in and out in Pictures or
> Safari is quick and intuitive and scrolling using a thumb couldn’t be
> easier. The Palm-esque home button works reliably and every screen
> makes maximum use of every pixel on the likewise Palm-esque HVGA
> screen. This is what the Palm TX should have looked like.
>
> I did find it odd that the auto-sensing rotation worked for some apps
> but not others. Even without the keyboard up, there’s no way to view
> the Notes application in landscape, for example.
>
> In many ways, the iPhone reminds me of the HTC Touch in reverse. While
> both devices sport finger-friendly and artistically gorgeous home
> screens, on the Touch you find yourself digging for the stylus and
> familiar Windows Mobile complexity once you get past the veneer. On
> the iPhone, by contrast, once you get past the beauty and style of the
> UI, you pretty much have nothing.
>
> *Media*
>
> The iPhone is just another iPod in many ways, and the user interface
> makes it the most fun iPod to date. The big on-screen buttons, easily
> scrollable lists and gigantic album art make this more fun than
> browsing your old LP collection (what we old timers had before CDs,
> kids). Displaying pictures and playing music is a breeze.
>
> As well it should be, on a $600 Nano. This is an iPod where you’re
> paying over $100 per gigabyte. Not even the original iPod was that
> expensive for what you got.
>
> *Web*
> Once you try to actually /do/ anything with it, like type a username
> with an underscore, you have to jump through non-intuitive hoops to
> get there. Assuming there is a there there at all. The camera only
> takes pictures in 2MP size, and only sends them by email and only
> sends them resized to VGA. No way to override any of that, and no way
> to set the camera for presets like sport, burst, MMS, etc.
>
> Several people have pointed out that the iPhone is what Palm should
> have been working on instead of the Foleo, and I’m inclined to agree
> that a big-screened, high-resolution tablet phone would have been a
> better investment. But only because I know Palm would have succeeded
> where Apple has failed. The Zen of Palm would have dictated a TX-based
> cell phone be simpler and more intuitive than something like the HTC
> Touch, but Palm wouldn’t have simplified the device by crippling its use.
>
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