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  <title type="text">Wine 2.0 Google Group</title>
  <subtitle type="text">
  Discussion of how Web 2.0 principles apply to the wine industry.
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  <updated>2008-09-08T22:34:47Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>kelakemore</name>
  <email>kelakem...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-08T22:34:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/e9cb753110cced9c/3340509335b109c4?show_docid=3340509335b109c4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/e9cb753110cced9c/3340509335b109c4?show_docid=3340509335b109c4"/>
  <title type="text">Jessica Alba Wardrobe Malfu</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hottie Jessica Alba having Janet Jackson type problems &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://realvideo.freehostia.com?id=69924&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>vhaw1075</name>
  <email>vhaw1...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-09-06T05:42:49Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/533a1429266bef77/e79342b6b109a991?show_docid=e79342b6b109a991</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/533a1429266bef77/e79342b6b109a991?show_docid=e79342b6b109a991"/>
  <title type="text">Salma Hayek Amazing Boobs</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Are there two boobs that are more perfect in the universe? &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://freerealvideo.net/video.html?video=79767&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>ideadude</name>
  <email>idead...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-27T14:57:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/705cd10d18936a18?show_docid=705cd10d18936a18</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/705cd10d18936a18?show_docid=705cd10d18936a18"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Half stars is a common request. I&#39;ll bump it up the queue. &lt;br&gt; Jason
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jeff Stai</name>
  <email>j...@twistedoak.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-22T18:12:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/98b6bc3edcdf2be2?show_docid=98b6bc3edcdf2be2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/98b6bc3edcdf2be2?show_docid=98b6bc3edcdf2be2"/>
  <title type="text">speaking of &quot;can this be better&quot;...</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  ...it seems appropriate to bring the following blog post and associated discussion to the attention &lt;br&gt; of this group: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.californiawinehikes.com/winehiker/1/a-standardized-wine-rating-system-in-an-age-of-chaos-and-diversity/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; It seems to me that when we look at distributing this data, we should strive to make detailed data
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>D. Hageman</name>
  <email>dhage...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-20T00:34:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/2ef6613a4bc8db64?show_docid=2ef6613a4bc8db64</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/2ef6613a4bc8db64?show_docid=2ef6613a4bc8db64"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  You actually just illustrated what I call the biggest trade off - &lt;br&gt; visibility. In the web world we get very concerned about space and &lt;br&gt; presentation. I often feel that the rating stars often get too small to &lt;br&gt; be useful and when they get too big they look ... amateurish or &lt;br&gt; cartoonish. &lt;br&gt; Print graphics are much easier because you can ensure that everyone&#39;s
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jeff Stai</name>
  <email>j...@twistedoak.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-19T23:57:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/0dfd0dbbec2a9189?show_docid=0dfd0dbbec2a9189</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/0dfd0dbbec2a9189?show_docid=0dfd0dbbec2a9189"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  That&#39;s an interesting perspective, and I hadn&#39;t entirely thought of it that way. &lt;br&gt; I tend to prefer ten stars/objects because they&#39;re easier for nearsighted guy (meaning me) to see. &lt;br&gt; The half coloring of a half star is often too subtle for me. &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve seen them used well enough in Wired magazine, for example. To each their own, I guess.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>D. Hageman</name>
  <email>dhage...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-19T23:43:09Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/b617a940396cf2f4?show_docid=b617a940396cf2f4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/b617a940396cf2f4?show_docid=b617a940396cf2f4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I like your humor, but all jokes aside, you do realize there is a good &lt;br&gt; reason that all the rating systems just go up to five objects right? &lt;br&gt; It is quite a bit more visually appealing then having the 10 objects in a &lt;br&gt; row. People also have to stop and slowly count each rating object when &lt;br&gt; the number of objects get that high. Using the 5 objects in 1/2 increments
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jeff Stai</name>
  <email>j...@twistedoak.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-19T23:02:08Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/f32ee0ba862813ee?show_docid=f32ee0ba862813ee</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/f32ee0ba862813ee?show_docid=f32ee0ba862813ee"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  If you had a ten star system, you wouldn&#39;t need half stars...:)
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>D. Hageman</name>
  <email>dhage...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-19T23:00:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/2654dacd6fe63ebb?show_docid=2654dacd6fe63ebb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/2654dacd6fe63ebb?show_docid=2654dacd6fe63ebb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  We currently support the 5 wine glasses (stars) in 1/2 increments. During &lt;br&gt; implementation, we also agreed that the 5 stars needed the extra &lt;br&gt; granularity.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>winecast@gmail.com</name>
  <email>winec...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-19T21:33:05Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/ca985946e685f3af?show_docid=ca985946e685f3af</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/ca985946e685f3af?show_docid=ca985946e685f3af"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Jason, &lt;br&gt; It would be really cool if you supported half-stars. I would also ask &lt;br&gt; all the other sites interested in bloggers using your service and &lt;br&gt; posting back to their blogs to do the same. I think there is a lot of &lt;br&gt; potential for standardization on the 5-star system but we need the &lt;br&gt; granularity of half-stars. More on this in a post at Winecast later
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>James Jory</name>
  <email>ja...@scrugy.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-15T19:33:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/a2d3e8e6d32b558d?show_docid=a2d3e8e6d32b558d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/a2d3e8e6d32b558d?show_docid=a2d3e8e6d32b558d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  The wine extensions that I&#39;ve defined for hReview support multiple &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;varietal&amp;quot; elements that make up the wine&#39;s overall composition. &lt;br&gt; Percentages can optionally be applied to each varietal to describe the &lt;br&gt; breakdown for each varietal in the finished wine. Also, the &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;designation&amp;quot; field can be used to capture the special name given to
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>D. Hageman</name>
  <email>dhage...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-15T19:22:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/ef80d63556f376d0?show_docid=ef80d63556f376d0</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/ef80d63556f376d0?show_docid=ef80d63556f376d0"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  On bottlemonkey.com, we track up to 4 varieties per wine. &lt;br&gt; I like the solution already presented in regards to pricing with the size &lt;br&gt; and currency units. &lt;br&gt; Another thing we track is the alcohol percentage and if the wine is &lt;br&gt; unfiltered or a reserve or an estate wine.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>juicecowboy@gmail.com</name>
  <email>juicecow...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-15T19:16:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/2947a820d9541cfa?show_docid=2947a820d9541cfa</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/2947a820d9541cfa?show_docid=2947a820d9541cfa"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  I have to echo what Jeff is saying here about the blends. Those can &lt;br&gt; be some of the more interesting ones. Whats the proposal for how &lt;br&gt; they&#39;re handled?
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Jeff Stai</name>
  <email>j...@twistedoak.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-15T18:47:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/f83e904f5c102488?show_docid=f83e904f5c102488</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/f83e904f5c102488?show_docid=f83e904f5c102488"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  1. Not just one varietal, but blends - how do you designate? (I feel like I keep asking this.) &lt;br&gt; 2. User perspective on ratings of any kind. I use and value descriptors more, of course - but when I &lt;br&gt; am buying, say, a camera, I will look at the reviews of people who gave it a poor rating to find out &lt;br&gt; why they hated it, and the reviews of those who loved it for their reasons. Ratings aren&#39;t going away.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>James Jory</name>
  <email>ja...@scrugy.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2007-06-15T18:01:10Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/b37fe352a5cf90a1?show_docid=b37fe352a5cf90a1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/wine20/browse_frm/thread/8c746761d0def870/b37fe352a5cf90a1?show_docid=b37fe352a5cf90a1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: hReview WP plug-in, etc.</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Another option is to use the blogging APIs to post the TN right into &lt;br&gt; your user&#39;s blog when it&#39;s added to Winelog. That&#39;s the approach that &lt;br&gt; I&#39;m taking for the tool I&#39;m building now. &lt;br&gt; That would be great! &lt;br&gt; -James
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