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  <title type="text">Wind Fun St. Louis Google Group</title>
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  St. Louis&#39; Windsurf and Kiteboard community.
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  <updated>2009-11-28T00:56:04Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>ted basler</name>
  <email>ted.bas...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-11-28T00:56:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/c98823b2841be20a/4089524daee308df?show_docid=4089524daee308df</id>
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  <title type="text">windsurfed creve couer thanksgiving 2009</title>
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  Thanksgiving day windsurfing at Creve Couer. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;put wet suit on over dry suit. stayed warm except for feet which were numb &lt;br&gt; the whole time. was on the water for 2.5 hours. had a few good runs but got &lt;br&gt; out too late for the good wind. need to get boots that are real thick. If i &lt;br&gt; can figure out how to keep feet warm with like 10 mil boots I can withstand
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  <author>
  <name>Juan</name>
  <email>arhan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-25T14:59:37Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/84731d1a000721f9/946f9c8e681838b6?show_docid=946f9c8e681838b6</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/84731d1a000721f9/946f9c8e681838b6?show_docid=946f9c8e681838b6"/>
  <title type="text">Good wind early this afternoon (Wednesday before Thanksgiving)</title>
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  14 mph base wind with gusts to 26mph from 9AM until 4 pm forecasted &lt;br&gt; for today Wednesday at Alton. 15 mph base wind from 1pm to 3pm. The &lt;br&gt; direction is not perfect but nearly so: straight from the W (perfect &lt;br&gt; would be WNW or ESE). Anybody willing to go? Carlyle is another &lt;br&gt; option; however, further away. The wind there will be very stable at
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Juan</name>
  <email>arhan...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-20T21:33:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/a0122f43757c4c13?show_docid=a0122f43757c4c13</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/a0122f43757c4c13?show_docid=a0122f43757c4c13"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My accident...</title>
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  Wes, i&#39;m sorry to hear about your accident. It seems reasonable to &lt;br&gt; assume that the wet sand at the shore, very compact, much more so than &lt;br&gt; dry sand on the beach had a lot to do with the magnitude of what &lt;br&gt; happened. If the sand is fine and the slope is low it&#39;s very hard &lt;br&gt; (very easy to wak on). It also looks like you have a propensity to
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  <author>
  <name>wes</name>
  <email>wes.brown...@noaa.gov</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T20:41:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/b720bbd0dbfe31c1/c651c02761373ae2?show_docid=c651c02761373ae2</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/b720bbd0dbfe31c1/c651c02761373ae2?show_docid=c651c02761373ae2"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Wes.</title>
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  Thanks Kees!
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  <author>
  <name>wes</name>
  <email>wes.brown...@noaa.gov</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T20:35:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/64194fffa574fb5c?show_docid=64194fffa574fb5c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/64194fffa574fb5c?show_docid=64194fffa574fb5c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My accident...</title>
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  Thanks Dave for the kind words, and yes Chris, I suspect the list will &lt;br&gt; be longer before I finally die, but I hope to put that off for a long, &lt;br&gt; long time. With regard to the other 5 broken bones, I&#39;d prescribe &lt;br&gt; none of them to machismo, but rather clumsiness, impatience, or just &lt;br&gt; plain stupidity :( !
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  <author>
  <name>kees dejong</name>
  <email>keesdejon...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T18:12:58Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/b720bbd0dbfe31c1/8a7c2b0359cd98d7?show_docid=8a7c2b0359cd98d7"/>
  <title type="text">Wes.</title>
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  Wes &lt;br&gt; Also sorry to hear about your accident. &lt;br&gt; As a kid growing up I sailed alot and later learning how to fly, the one thing my dad taught me was to always respect the weather and the oceans and especially your limits. &lt;br&gt; If you over estimated any one of those you could be punished severly. &lt;br&gt; Now we surfers and kiters are always trying to push that envelope which makes it fun for us to go out on a windy day.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>kees dejong</name>
  <email>keesdejon...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T18:02:59Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/8b4b64d025bf063c/54d278ec92604868?show_docid=54d278ec92604868</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/8b4b64d025bf063c/54d278ec92604868?show_docid=54d278ec92604868"/>
  <title type="text">Please help me w/ this. / Need stuff for Honduras</title>
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  Mom&#39;s Dad&#39;d, Friends surf buddies, Soccer mom&#39;s &amp;amp; dad&#39;s etc etc. &lt;br&gt; I believe all of you know of my involvement with our cause for the children in Honduras called &amp;quot;Just Because We Care&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; They had a bad earth quake earlier this year and problems with their government. Hardly anybody is working because of the government problems.
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  <author>
  <name>wakeb0ardn@gmail.com</name>
  <email>wakeb0a...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T17:58:45Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/ca69b2ec3f1e7aab?show_docid=ca69b2ec3f1e7aab"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My accident...</title>
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  Wes, &lt;br&gt; Very sorry to hear about your accident, but as other said, great to &lt;br&gt; hear it wasn&#39;t a head injury and your OK. Wish you luck lots of fun &lt;br&gt; in perhaps picking up windsurfing. &lt;br&gt; -Dave from Boulder
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  <author>
  <name>Richard Hunter</name>
  <email>richshun...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T16:57:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/805187bcc3d271f8?show_docid=805187bcc3d271f8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/805187bcc3d271f8?show_docid=805187bcc3d271f8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My accident...</title>
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  Bones break falling down stairs, falling on ice, auto accidents and on and on. Wes, you&#39;ll have to explain the other five to convince us the broken bones were due to machismo. :-) &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; Let me start. As you may recall from a previous post by me, I broke my left fibula at the Gorge windsurfing a 3.8 sail one year ago Aug 30. No other broken bones before then, so 205 bones to go for me.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Richard Hunter</name>
  <email>richshun...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T16:45:53Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/fd00bdd367ccd7a1/e71634719805fc54?show_docid=e71634719805fc54</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/fd00bdd367ccd7a1/e71634719805fc54?show_docid=e71634719805fc54"/>
  <title type="text">Fw: RE: My accident...</title>
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  Marcos, &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; I was thinking of Coles Creek when you wrote about the Creve Coeur kitemare, so I think you told me about that, though I don&#39;t recall the specifics. However, you seemed to quit kiting at Carlyle several years ago, and I have always been curious about the reason for that. Was it related to the Creve Coeur incident? I think at the time I attributed it to your kite being no longer functional and you not replacing it.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Chris Mihill</name>
  <email>cmih...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T16:38:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/100dcc3ce52d1cbe?show_docid=100dcc3ce52d1cbe</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/100dcc3ce52d1cbe?show_docid=100dcc3ce52d1cbe"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My accident...</title>
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  The human body has 206 bones. &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; You have a way to go Wes. &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; CM &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;To: &amp;quot;Wind Fun St. Louis&amp;quot; &amp;lt;windfunstl@googlegroups.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Tim, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Believe me, I really would love to continue kiteboarding, but I have &lt;br&gt; to consider the consequences of another injury not only to me but to &lt;br&gt; my family, coworkers, etc.  I am convinced that kiteboarding can be
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Richard Hunter</name>
  <email>richshun...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T16:18:34Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/da564bdc89e8cc67?show_docid=da564bdc89e8cc67</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/da564bdc89e8cc67?show_docid=da564bdc89e8cc67"/>
  <title type="text">RE: My accident...</title>
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  Marcos, &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; I had noticed that you were no longer joining me in kiting a while back, when it was just you and me with kites. That&#39;s the first time I heard of your kitemare. What happened specifically? &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; Having only kited Carlyle, Creve Coeur two or three times, and the Gorge, I can say I have had too many close calls to count, including ones away from shore. I believe the sport is much riskier than we let ourselves believe.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Richard Hunter</name>
  <email>richshun...@sbcglobal.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T16:07:04Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/bafd2366d0754bcf?show_docid=bafd2366d0754bcf</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/bafd2366d0754bcf?show_docid=bafd2366d0754bcf"/>
  <title type="text">RE: My accident...</title>
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  Wes, &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; I am considering retiring from kiting for safety reasons. In my opinion, the sport is particularly risky when one is a beginner and then, perhaps even riskier, when one does not practice it regularly, as is now the case for me. Presumably bones get brittler with age, so that should also be another consideration.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Marcos Vidal</name>
  <email>vidalmar...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T14:55:27Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/816e7c6e2e90c7cc?show_docid=816e7c6e2e90c7cc</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/816e7c6e2e90c7cc?show_docid=816e7c6e2e90c7cc"/>
  <title type="text">RE: My accident...</title>
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  Hi guys,Everybody has kitemares. I almost kill myself when launching at Creve Coeur lake on a very strong gusty day, but left the beach without any injury. I did never again kited on that gusty lake. I prefer to windsurf when the wind is strong and gusty. We all made mistakes, it&#39;s just a matter of luck the price you pay for such mistakes. There are pro kiters who were fighting for the word title and are now on wheelchairs so it&#39;s not a matter on how good you are. But it&#39;s an extreme sport and it&#39;s good that some people want to take risks; look at this recent article and video from the BBC: &amp;quot;Two kite surfers jump over pier&amp;quot;.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>wes</name>
  <email>wes.brown...@noaa.gov</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-11-19T13:47:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/cfe3169bcd8f6757?show_docid=cfe3169bcd8f6757</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/windfunstl/browse_thread/thread/cdfcfeb336d3e0cf/cfe3169bcd8f6757?show_docid=cfe3169bcd8f6757"/>
  <title type="text">Re: My accident...</title>
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  Tim, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Believe me, I really would love to continue kiteboarding, but I have &lt;br&gt; to consider the consequences of another injury not only to me but to &lt;br&gt; my family, coworkers, etc. I am convinced that kiteboarding can be &lt;br&gt; done relatively safely by those who are much better than I at not only &lt;br&gt; recognizing risk, but properly reacting to it. There were many times I
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