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valerie
Nov 17, 2009, 2:31:07 PM11/17/09
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I have been collecting and annotating lots of links to OER directories
and repositories.
http://www.wikieducator.org/WE_Collaborate/Science6
Now I would like to have a template for a one line status indicator
that can include a few basic bits of information from pull-down menus
(so I don't have to remember / lookup the values every time), and
perhaps some automatically provided values ? date this added or
changed.
I'd really appreciate some help with building the template - I can do
really simple ones, but this is beyond me.
Thanks
..Valerie
and repositories.
http://www.wikieducator.org/WE_Collaborate/Science6
Now I would like to have a template for a one line status indicator
that can include a few basic bits of information from pull-down menus
(so I don't have to remember / lookup the values every time), and
perhaps some automatically provided values ? date this added or
changed.
I'd really appreciate some help with building the template - I can do
really simple ones, but this is beyond me.
Thanks
..Valerie
Patricia Schlicht
Nov 17, 2009, 2:38:35 PM11/17/09
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That's great, Valerie. Could you link it to the Teacher collaboration
Portal in the appropriate place.
http://www.wikieducator.org/Teacher_Collaboration
Thanks,
Cheers,
Patricia
Portal in the appropriate place.
http://www.wikieducator.org/Teacher_Collaboration
Thanks,
Cheers,
Patricia
Wayne Mackintosh
Nov 17, 2009, 3:55:58 PM11/17/09
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Hi Valerie,
Looks like a great project concept and I like the idea of sourcing OERs which WE are free to adapt modify and redistribute :-). Therefore when categorising and listing content resources it would be useful to include licensing and or copyright information.
Sadly the majority of resource links on the WE_Collaborate page point to materials which we are NOT free to adapt, modify and redistribute :-(.
For example -- take a look at Merlot's Copyright License -- it is VERY misleading.
On the main landing pages they have a link which says:
"Content on this site is licensed under Creative Commons License Conditions " note that on this page they do not state what creative commons licenses." Further examination will reveal that this is not a licensing culture of permissions -- but rather a IP policy designed to restrict use.
Reading the Merlot licensing regime you will find that they have own complicated and restrictive licensing policy in place. The short answer is WE cannot touch these materials because they do not meet the requirements of the Free Cultural Works definition and from WikiEducator's perspective Merlot resources do not qualify is free/libre content.
Merlot provides different rights to different categories of people, and a convoluted and complex licensing policy which dishes out different freedoms to different people. In our view this is unacceptable.
"Partners Only" is a category of Merlot users who require written permission from Merlot -- Quoting from their site:
"Partner-only materials require written permission from MERLOT for reuse. After receiving such permission, the materials fall under the Creative Commons conditions described in Table 1 (which provides a complicated licensing framework for different types of materials). Partners who pay or contribute resources have access to a different set of materials from the general education public. Merlot members have different licensing conditions to the general public. Merlot also uses different licenses for different types of material, eg metadata, assignments, member comments". Moreover, the fact that MERLOT has applied additional licensing conditions than the standard Creative Commons licenses -- effectively restricts remix and reuse.
Reading further you will see that the use of Learning Materials by all other users is effectively all rights reserved copyright. Merlot's licensing requirements are not aligned with our values and IMHO we should not use valuable community time to reference WE resources on Merlot.
I think its a good idea to partner and support initiatives which subscribe to our values and meaning of freedom. Together we can achieve more than working alone.
It is up to us to ensure that the world will have access to free/libre content -- sadly, content which you are free to adapt, modify and reuse is still in the minority. However, WE are going to make a difference!
Cheers
Wayne
--
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Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
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Looks like a great project concept and I like the idea of sourcing OERs which WE are free to adapt modify and redistribute :-). Therefore when categorising and listing content resources it would be useful to include licensing and or copyright information.
Sadly the majority of resource links on the WE_Collaborate page point to materials which we are NOT free to adapt, modify and redistribute :-(.
For example -- take a look at Merlot's Copyright License -- it is VERY misleading.
On the main landing pages they have a link which says:
"Content on this site is licensed under Creative Commons License Conditions " note that on this page they do not state what creative commons licenses." Further examination will reveal that this is not a licensing culture of permissions -- but rather a IP policy designed to restrict use.
Reading the Merlot licensing regime you will find that they have own complicated and restrictive licensing policy in place. The short answer is WE cannot touch these materials because they do not meet the requirements of the Free Cultural Works definition and from WikiEducator's perspective Merlot resources do not qualify is free/libre content.
Merlot provides different rights to different categories of people, and a convoluted and complex licensing policy which dishes out different freedoms to different people. In our view this is unacceptable.
"Partners Only" is a category of Merlot users who require written permission from Merlot -- Quoting from their site:
"Partner-only materials require written permission from MERLOT for reuse. After receiving such permission, the materials fall under the Creative Commons conditions described in Table 1 (which provides a complicated licensing framework for different types of materials). Partners who pay or contribute resources have access to a different set of materials from the general education public. Merlot members have different licensing conditions to the general public. Merlot also uses different licenses for different types of material, eg metadata, assignments, member comments". Moreover, the fact that MERLOT has applied additional licensing conditions than the standard Creative Commons licenses -- effectively restricts remix and reuse.
Reading further you will see that the use of Learning Materials by all other users is effectively all rights reserved copyright. Merlot's licensing requirements are not aligned with our values and IMHO we should not use valuable community time to reference WE resources on Merlot.
I think its a good idea to partner and support initiatives which subscribe to our values and meaning of freedom. Together we can achieve more than working alone.
It is up to us to ensure that the world will have access to free/libre content -- sadly, content which you are free to adapt, modify and reuse is still in the minority. However, WE are going to make a difference!
Cheers
Wayne
2009/11/18 valerie <vta...@gmail.com>
--
Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org
Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
valerie
Nov 18, 2009, 3:00:32 PM11/18/09
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Thanks for pointing out the limitations with MERLOT copyright
notices.
MERLOT has achieved considerable recognition for its OER index and
reviews. While MERLOT has shortcomings, they are also the primary go-
to site for locating learning objects. The peer reviews lend great
credibility to any resources listed in MERLOT.
Sadly, there is no functional equivalent for WE content or
WikiEducator-reviewed OERs. As a result, WE OERs are missing out on
the notice they deserve.
I suggested that we add links and reviews for OERs located in
WikiEducator to the MERLOT listings. This will immediately raise
visibility and brand recognition for WikiEducator. As I understand it,
the MERLOT copyright information would not limit WikiEducators in
promoting their OER through MERLOT. In all my years of accessing
MERLOT listings, I have never encountered issues with access to any of
the resources. On the contrary, it has been a great pleasure to
discover so many wonderful resources on a wide range of topics and
grade levels. The category and search mechanism is robust, user-
friendly and works extremely well.
The WikiEducator OERs really need the visibility that can be bestowed
by MERLOT listing and reviews.
..Valerie
On Nov 17, 12:55 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
notices.
MERLOT has achieved considerable recognition for its OER index and
reviews. While MERLOT has shortcomings, they are also the primary go-
to site for locating learning objects. The peer reviews lend great
credibility to any resources listed in MERLOT.
Sadly, there is no functional equivalent for WE content or
WikiEducator-reviewed OERs. As a result, WE OERs are missing out on
the notice they deserve.
I suggested that we add links and reviews for OERs located in
WikiEducator to the MERLOT listings. This will immediately raise
visibility and brand recognition for WikiEducator. As I understand it,
the MERLOT copyright information would not limit WikiEducators in
promoting their OER through MERLOT. In all my years of accessing
MERLOT listings, I have never encountered issues with access to any of
the resources. On the contrary, it has been a great pleasure to
discover so many wonderful resources on a wide range of topics and
grade levels. The category and search mechanism is robust, user-
friendly and works extremely well.
The WikiEducator OERs really need the visibility that can be bestowed
by MERLOT listing and reviews.
..Valerie
On Nov 17, 12:55 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Wayne Mackintosh
Nov 18, 2009, 3:27:10 PM11/18/09
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Hi Valerie
Responses in text below.
Absolutely -- there is a lot WE and the OER movement at large can learn from the MERLOT experience, and you're right WE are lacking in easier way's to locate OER as well as a visible rating system. Duly noted. Implementation of these features, tweaked for the wiki model are on our development roadmap :-)
Yes it would be possible for the community to list and reference OERs hosted on WE through MERLOT. However, it not possible to host WE OER on the MERLOT site because of the license used by MERLOT.
Responses in text below.
2009/11/19 valerie <vta...@gmail.com>
Thanks for pointing out the limitations with MERLOT copyright
notices.
MERLOT has achieved considerable recognition for its OER index and
reviews. While MERLOT has shortcomings, they are also the primary go-
to site for locating learning objects. The peer reviews lend great
credibility to any resources listed in MERLOT.
Absolutely -- there is a lot WE and the OER movement at large can learn from the MERLOT experience, and you're right WE are lacking in easier way's to locate OER as well as a visible rating system. Duly noted. Implementation of these features, tweaked for the wiki model are on our development roadmap :-)
Sadly, there is no functional equivalent for WE content or
WikiEducator-reviewed OERs. As a result, WE OERs are missing out on
the notice they deserve.
Well not at the moment, but we are working on features to improve metadata and search & find capability across OER repositories. the first step is to implement WYSIWYG editing. Then we will be doing some code development for a metadata template. I visualise a pop-up window of sorts with the relevant text fields and radio buttons for describing the WE OER. We build features that will enable different repositories to harvest our metadata and find WE OERs.
I suggested that we add links and reviews for OERs located in
WikiEducator to the MERLOT listings. This will immediately raise
visibility and brand recognition for WikiEducator. As I understand it,
the MERLOT copyright information would not limit WikiEducators in
promoting their OER through MERLOT. In all my years of accessing
MERLOT listings, I have never encountered issues with access to any of
the resources. On the contrary, it has been a great pleasure to
discover so many wonderful resources on a wide range of topics and
grade levels. The category and search mechanism is robust, user-
friendly and works extremely well.
Yes it would be possible for the community to list and reference OERs hosted on WE through MERLOT. However, it not possible to host WE OER on the MERLOT site because of the license used by MERLOT.
The WikiEducator OERs really need the visibility that can be bestowed
by MERLOT listing and reviews.
AGREE, AGREE AGREE -- we're getting there one step at a time.
Our strength and advantage is that our work is value based. WE continue to respect, implement and maintain the essential freedoms in what we do. It is the lens that informs our decisions and priorities. In the long run our commitment to free/libre knowledge is more sustainable, IMHO. In this way we will prove that OER is a sustainable and renewable resource!
Our strength and advantage is that our work is value based. WE continue to respect, implement and maintain the essential freedoms in what we do. It is the lens that informs our decisions and priorities. In the long run our commitment to free/libre knowledge is more sustainable, IMHO. In this way we will prove that OER is a sustainable and renewable resource!
..Valerie
On Nov 17, 12:55 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Robert Kruhlak
Nov 18, 2009, 4:19:55 PM11/18/09
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Hi Valerie,
> Now I would like to have a template for a one line status indicator
> that can include a few basic bits of information from pull-down menus
> (so I don't have to remember / lookup the values every time), and
> perhaps some automatically provided values ? date this added or
> changed.
I have not come across the ability to have pull down menus in a
template. We can implement a hide/show feature like in
Template:Objectives2 or stringing them together like in
http://wikieducator.org/User:Kruhly/MCQ
Another way could be to get your extra information to show up in a
mouse over situation.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
Rob
>
> I'd really appreciate some help with building the template - I can do
> really simple ones, but this is beyond me.
>
> Thanks
> ..Valerie
> >
>
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North Vancouver, BC
CANADA
(M) +1 778 230 1875
(E) kru...@gmail.com
> Now I would like to have a template for a one line status indicator
> that can include a few basic bits of information from pull-down menus
> (so I don't have to remember / lookup the values every time), and
> perhaps some automatically provided values ? date this added or
> changed.
template. We can implement a hide/show feature like in
Template:Objectives2 or stringing them together like in
http://wikieducator.org/User:Kruhly/MCQ
Another way could be to get your extra information to show up in a
mouse over situation.
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
Rob
>
> I'd really appreciate some help with building the template - I can do
> really simple ones, but this is beyond me.
>
> Thanks
> ..Valerie
> >
>
Robert Kruhlak
North Vancouver, BC
CANADA
(M) +1 778 230 1875
(E) kru...@gmail.com
valerie
Nov 18, 2009, 5:49:32 PM11/18/09
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Thanks Wayne
I didn't know that MERLOT hosted content! Everything I have ever
accessed was hosted elsewhere and listed / reviewed in MERLOT with
links to the content location. No wonder I was confused about your
copyright concerns. I'm glad we got that straightened out. :o)
Great news about the plans for improved access and reviews within
WikiEducator. I can make do with my own little add-ons for the time
being. However, I'm really looking forward to there being state-of-the-
art tools for finding and remixing WE OERs. Can't happen soon enough!
..Valerie
On Nov 18, 12:27 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I didn't know that MERLOT hosted content! Everything I have ever
accessed was hosted elsewhere and listed / reviewed in MERLOT with
links to the content location. No wonder I was confused about your
copyright concerns. I'm glad we got that straightened out. :o)
Great news about the plans for improved access and reviews within
WikiEducator. I can make do with my own little add-ons for the time
being. However, I'm really looking forward to there being state-of-the-
art tools for finding and remixing WE OERs. Can't happen soon enough!
..Valerie
On Nov 18, 12:27 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
valerie
Nov 18, 2009, 5:54:35 PM11/18/09
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Hi Rob
I can follow your example well enough to get something to work. Won't
be pretty but...
Thanks much!
..Valerie
On Nov 18, 1:19 pm, Robert Kruhlak <kru...@gmail.com> wrote:
I can follow your example well enough to get something to work. Won't
be pretty but...
Thanks much!
..Valerie
On Nov 18, 1:19 pm, Robert Kruhlak <kru...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wayne Mackintosh
Nov 18, 2009, 6:17:00 PM11/18/09
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Hi Valerie,,
Me too! Now that we're operating independently under the OER Foundation, we now have the scope and freedom to invest time and energy into software refinements that will better serve educational needs.
Working under auspices of an international agency, understandably software development did not fall within the remit of core activities and it was extremely difficult to get project approvals for open source software development work.
Thankfully, WE were very fortunate in having community members who have donated their time freely in administering the WE servers. A big round of applause (and thanks) to Jim Tittsler, Wen-Chen Hol who have worked tirelessly in keeping WE ship-shape and making the magic happen behind the scenes. We're also indebted to Erik Möller for his solid technical advice and willingness to respond quickly to my barrage of emails seeking answers on numerous technical matters.
The OER Foundation and WikiEducator are very fortunate now to have a full-time software engineer. Having the calibre of Jim's extensive experience as CIO for WE is going to take our project to new levels. Our only limitation is going to be the speed at which we can implement all these ideas and features. However, assuming successful funding proposals and growing institutional memberships of the OER Foundation --- we will be able to speed up this process.
Watch this space -- WE is going places :-).
Cheers
Wayne
2009/11/19 valerie <vta...@gmail.com>
Great news about the plans for improved access and reviews within
WikiEducator. I can make do with my own little add-ons for the time
being. However, I'm really looking forward to there being state-of-the-
art tools for finding and remixing WE OERs. Can't happen soon enough!
Me too! Now that we're operating independently under the OER Foundation, we now have the scope and freedom to invest time and energy into software refinements that will better serve educational needs.
Working under auspices of an international agency, understandably software development did not fall within the remit of core activities and it was extremely difficult to get project approvals for open source software development work.
Thankfully, WE were very fortunate in having community members who have donated their time freely in administering the WE servers. A big round of applause (and thanks) to Jim Tittsler, Wen-Chen Hol who have worked tirelessly in keeping WE ship-shape and making the magic happen behind the scenes. We're also indebted to Erik Möller for his solid technical advice and willingness to respond quickly to my barrage of emails seeking answers on numerous technical matters.
The OER Foundation and WikiEducator are very fortunate now to have a full-time software engineer. Having the calibre of Jim's extensive experience as CIO for WE is going to take our project to new levels. Our only limitation is going to be the speed at which we can implement all these ideas and features. However, assuming successful funding proposals and growing institutional memberships of the OER Foundation --- we will be able to speed up this process.
Watch this space -- WE is going places :-).
Cheers
Wayne
Jan Visser
Nov 19, 2009, 11:03:30 AM11/19/09
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GEOSET (Global Educational Outreach for Science Engineering and Technology) is a repository of freely downloadable educational resources in the area of science, engineering and technology available at http://www.geoset.info/. I thought it might interest members of our WE community. Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, Harry Kroto, has been instrumental in putting this together and making it grow. Kroto participated in a panel discussion on NPR’s Science Friday last September 25. Listen to him (or download the mp3 file) at http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200909253.
Jan
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E-mail: jvi...@learndev.org
Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev
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kirby urner
Nov 19, 2009, 11:22:36 AM11/19/09
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Jan Visser <jvi...@learndev.org> wrote:
> GEOSET (Global Educational Outreach for Science Engineering and Technology)
> is a repository of freely downloadable educational resources in the area of
> science, engineering and technology available at http://www.geoset.info/. I
> thought it might interest members of our WE community. Nobel Laureate in
> Chemistry, Harry Kroto, has been instrumental in putting this together and
> making it grow. Kroto participated in a panel discussion on NPR’s Science
> Friday last September 25. Listen to him (or download the mp3 file) at
> http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200909253.
>
>
>
> Jan
>
This is interesting to me. I was tracking Kroto and others leading up
> GEOSET (Global Educational Outreach for Science Engineering and Technology)
> is a repository of freely downloadable educational resources in the area of
> science, engineering and technology available at http://www.geoset.info/. I
> thought it might interest members of our WE community. Nobel Laureate in
> Chemistry, Harry Kroto, has been instrumental in putting this together and
> making it grow. Kroto participated in a panel discussion on NPR’s Science
> Friday last September 25. Listen to him (or download the mp3 file) at
> http://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200909253.
>
>
>
> Jan
>
to the Nobel, looking over shoulder of one E.J. Applewhite.[1] Got to
meet the guy at first international conference on Buckyballs at Santa
Barbara, 1995. I include mention of said buckyballs on my Martian
Math page @ Wikieducator (nanotechnology section).
Kirby
[1] http://4dsolutions.net/synergetica/eja1.html
>
>
> --
>
> Jan Visser, Ph.D.
>
> President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute
>
> E-mail: jvi...@learndev.org
>
> Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev
>
> Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> >
>
>>> from mars import math
http://www.wikieducator.org/Martian_Math
Jan Visser
Nov 19, 2009, 11:57:51 AM11/19/09
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Yes, that's another connection with Kroto. I like your Martian Math page.
Thanks also for the link to the page on "The Naming of
Buckminsterfullerene." Kroto, of course, got the Nobel in 1996 for his part
in the co-discovery of buckminsterfullerene, a form of pure carbon made up
of 60 carbon atoms, which you also mention on your Martian Math page.
Thanks also for the link to the page on "The Naming of
Buckminsterfullerene." Kroto, of course, got the Nobel in 1996 for his part
in the co-discovery of buckminsterfullerene, a form of pure carbon made up
of 60 carbon atoms, which you also mention on your Martian Math page.
I have followed Kroto's work at Florida State University in setting up the
repository I mentioned over the past couple of years. Its growth has been
impressive. He has been very effective in mobilizing his friends and
colleagues from around the world to contribute.
Jan
--
Jan Visser, Ph.D.
President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute
E-mail: jvi...@learndev.org
Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev
Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
valerie
Nov 19, 2009, 12:05:33 PM11/19/09
to WikiEducator
Thanks Jan
I heard the Science Friday program and really enjoyed Dr. Kroto's
participation. Of course, that sparked my interest and I accessed the
site - great content.
Thanks to all.
..Valerie
On Nov 19, 8:03 am, "Jan Visser" <jvis...@learndev.org> wrote:
> GEOSET (Global Educational Outreach for Science Engineering and Technology)
> is a repository of freely downloadable educational resources in the area of
> science, engineering and technology available athttp://www.geoset.info/. I
>
> Check out:http://www.learndev.organdhttp://www.facebook.com/learndev
>
> Blog:http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
I heard the Science Friday program and really enjoyed Dr. Kroto's
participation. Of course, that sparked my interest and I accessed the
site - great content.
Thanks to all.
..Valerie
On Nov 19, 8:03 am, "Jan Visser" <jvis...@learndev.org> wrote:
> GEOSET (Global Educational Outreach for Science Engineering and Technology)
> is a repository of freely downloadable educational resources in the area of
> thought it might interest members of our WE community. Nobel Laureate in
> Chemistry, Harry Kroto, has been instrumental in putting this together and
> making it grow. Kroto participated in a panel discussion on NPR's Science
> Friday last September 25. Listen to him (or download the mp3 file) athttp://www.sciencefriday.com/program/archives/200909253.
> Chemistry, Harry Kroto, has been instrumental in putting this together and
> making it grow. Kroto participated in a panel discussion on NPR's Science
>
> Jan
>
> --
>
> Jan Visser, Ph.D.
>
> President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute
>
> E-mail: jvis...@learndev.org
> Jan
>
> --
>
> Jan Visser, Ph.D.
>
> President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute
>
>
> Check out:http://www.learndev.organdhttp://www.facebook.com/learndev
>
> Blog:http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
Randy Fisher
Nov 19, 2009, 12:12:47 PM11/19/09
to wikied...@googlegroups.com, Anil Prasad (India)
Hey all,
Do you think the WikiEducator community can extend an invitation to Dr. Kroto, so that he can do a seminar with us -- or how we can extend our WE magic to what he cares about?
We already have a high flyer among us...I believe, Dr. Swaminathan - father of India's Green Revolution - http://www.worldbank.org/html/cgiar/newsletter/sept99/timemag.htm
- Randy--
Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource.
________________
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Senior Consultant & Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada
Senior Consultant, Organization & Business Development
International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand
Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org
+1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST)
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* Organization Design & Development
* Sustainable Project Implementation & Community-Building
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* My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com
Do you think the WikiEducator community can extend an invitation to Dr. Kroto, so that he can do a seminar with us -- or how we can extend our WE magic to what he cares about?
We already have a high flyer among us...I believe, Dr. Swaminathan - father of India's Green Revolution - http://www.worldbank.org/html/cgiar/newsletter/sept99/timemag.htm
- Randy
Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource.
________________
Randy Fisher, MA, OMD
Senior Consultant & Facilitator, Intersol Group, Canada
Senior Consultant, Organization & Business Development
International Centre for Open Education / OER Foundation, New Zealand
Elected Member, WikiEducator Community Council, www.wikieducator.org
+1 613.230.6424 x144 (EST)
Skype: wikirandy
Twitter: wikirandy
* Stakeholder Engagement, Change / Transition Management & Performance
* Organization Design & Development
* Sustainable Project Implementation & Community-Building
* E-Learning, Online Collaboration & Communities of Practice
* Coaching & Facilitation
* My Bio: http://www.communitybuildingexpert.com
Jan Visser
Nov 19, 2009, 1:06:44 PM11/19/09
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He is quite approachable and may be interested in the opportunity to increase global visibility of his work. On the other hand, the dynamics by which GEOSET works is different from that of WE. But that need not be a problem. Listening to him on Science Friday you can hear that he has a clear interest in mobilizing the potential of technologies such as Wiki.
Jan
--
Jan Visser, Ph.D.
President & Sr. Researcher, Learning Development Institute
E-mail: jvi...@learndev.org
Check out: http://www.learndev.org and http://www.facebook.com/learndev
Blog: http://jvisser-ldi.blogspot.com/
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Hey all,
kirby urner
Nov 19, 2009, 3:19:01 PM11/19/09
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On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Jan Visser <jvi...@learndev.org> wrote:
Yes, that's another connection with Kroto. I like your Martian Math page.
Thanks also for the link to the page on "The Naming of
Buckminsterfullerene." Kroto, of course, got the Nobel in 1996 for his part
in the co-discovery of buckminsterfullerene, a form of pure carbon made up
of 60 carbon atoms, which you also mention on your Martian Math page.
I think it's highly apropos having buckminsterfullerene on "ET math" page given Dr. Kroto was scanning the intragalactic cosmos when he found this spectral peak in the C60 region.
Many polymer chemists were sure it was just a long carbon chain, however Rice University in Texas had the laser power to simulate the cosmos in the lab, where C60 could be purified and studied in some detail.
That the third allotrope of carbon is like a soccer ball was one of the great discoveries of the 20th century, led to carbon cage studies more generally, including of nanotubes.
I have followed Kroto's work at Florida State University in setting up the
repository I mentioned over the past couple of years. Its growth has been
impressive. He has been very effective in mobilizing his friends and
colleagues from around the world to contribute.
Jan
That's good to know about.
I hang out with a bunch of Cal Tech alums (isepp.org), some of whom knew Linus Pauling, another Nobel, with a special collection at Oregon State University (shared with Ava). Our meeting house is Pauling's boyhood home, where his passion for chemistry really took off (or so we might speculate).
That cuboctahedral packing of what look to be wooden balls in my user page gallery is actually from this OSU collection, photo taken when on tour.
http://www.wikieducator.org/Image:Cuboctahedralpacking.jpg
http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2008/11/excellent-adventure.html (more local history, field trip to OSU)
Looking forward to more chatting,
Kirby
User:KirbyUrner
(linked from Kirbyurner on Wikipedia)
Randy Fisher
Nov 19, 2009, 3:33:07 PM11/19/09
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Hi All,
Gee, maybe WE can be a virtual meeting place / sharing space, for Nobel-types to gather and share with the world...?
- Randy
Gee, maybe WE can be a virtual meeting place / sharing space, for Nobel-types to gather and share with the world...?
- Randy
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