I'm pleased that you have reminded us of the Newsletter and blog ideas!
*
Thoughts about a Newsletter*
Yes -- the OER Foundation definitely wants to support and promote a
newsletter for the WikiEducator community. There is so much happening in
our family around the world and we need to keep folk up-to-date with what's
happening. A newsletter is also a great way to connect the disconnected
:-). It's difficult for WikiEducator's who are less active on the site to
know about all the exciting things that are happening. WikiEducator will
certainly be able to put the community journalism concept to good use (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_journalism)
In short - -the OER Foundation is very supportive of this idea and I want to
see a professional, high quality quarterly newsletter for our family. As you
know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate advertising on our open
education sites. However, I'm wondering about how the community feels about
advertising in a professional Newsletter? We need funding to support the
editorial and professional work associated with a high quality newsletter
(notwithstanding the contributions from WikiEducators around the world for
the newsletter.) Thoughts?
*
Thoughts about a WikiEducator blog*
Over the last three years -- I've been wanting to host a WikiEducator blog.
In fact, we installed Wordpress on our server with the view to a
WikiEducator community blog. However, we need to do a little thinking about
how best to implement a "community" blog for WikiEducator, for example:
- Do blog posts on a collective WikiEducator blog represent the views of
WikiEducator as a community? The blog sphere is typically a personal
publishing space -- as opposed to a collective community voice. What is the
approach that WikiEducator should adopt?
- For example, While WikiEducator was operating under the auspices of the
Commonwealth of Learning --- understandably a "blogging" policy was
introduced by the agency, which restricted freedom of speech of individuals
wanting to blog about different issues. Where do we draw the line between
personal views and collective organisational opinion of an international
project?
- The OER Foundation is very keen to host and support a community blog
for WikiEducator. However, we need advice and support from the community
regarding the best way to do this. Perhaps we need to establish a blogging
workgroup to think about all the issues and propose a set of guidelines for
a WikiEducator blog - technically, hosting a dedicated blog for WE is no
problem and the OERF will support this. However we need a clear set of
guidelines developed by the community regarding the best way to implement.
Thanks Valerie -- great suggestions and thanks for reminding us of these
gaps in our community :-)
> Did anything ever come of earlier suggestions that there be a
> WikiEducator blog with multiple contributors or a collaboratively
> written newsletter?
> Naturally, their first question - Where is the WikiEducator
> newsletter? Umm, I'll get back to you on that...
> Is there a good answer to this question?
> ..Valerie
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
My earlier email reads "As you know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate
advertising on our open education sites."
MEGA typo -- this should read "WikiEducator will *NOT *succumb to corporate
advertising on our open education sites."
WE don't do corporate advertising on our site and will not be doing this in
the future -- non-negotiable. Apology for the typo -- trying to do too much.
Cheers
Wayne
2009/11/4 Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
> I'm pleased that you have reminded us of the Newsletter and blog ideas!
> *
> Thoughts about a Newsletter*
> Yes -- the OER Foundation definitely wants to support and promote a
> newsletter for the WikiEducator community. There is so much happening in
> our family around the world and we need to keep folk up-to-date with what's
> happening. A newsletter is also a great way to connect the disconnected
> :-). It's difficult for WikiEducator's who are less active on the site to
> know about all the exciting things that are happening. WikiEducator will
> certainly be able to put the community journalism concept to good use (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_journalism)
> In short - -the OER Foundation is very supportive of this idea and I want
> to see a professional, high quality quarterly newsletter for our family. As
> you know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate advertising on our open
> education sites. However, I'm wondering about how the community feels about
> advertising in a professional Newsletter? We need funding to support the
> editorial and professional work associated with a high quality newsletter
> (notwithstanding the contributions from WikiEducators around the world for
> the newsletter.) Thoughts?
> *
> Thoughts about a WikiEducator blog*
> Over the last three years -- I've been wanting to host a WikiEducator blog.
> In fact, we installed Wordpress on our server with the view to a
> WikiEducator community blog. However, we need to do a little thinking about
> how best to implement a "community" blog for WikiEducator, for example:
> - Do blog posts on a collective WikiEducator blog represent the views
> of WikiEducator as a community? The blog sphere is typically a personal
> publishing space -- as opposed to a collective community voice. What is the
> approach that WikiEducator should adopt?
> - For example, While WikiEducator was operating under the auspices of
> the Commonwealth of Learning --- understandably a "blogging" policy was
> introduced by the agency, which restricted freedom of speech of individuals
> wanting to blog about different issues. Where do we draw the line between
> personal views and collective organisational opinion of an international
> project?
> - The OER Foundation is very keen to host and support a community blog
> for WikiEducator. However, we need advice and support from the community
> regarding the best way to do this. Perhaps we need to establish a blogging
> workgroup to think about all the issues and propose a set of guidelines for
> a WikiEducator blog - technically, hosting a dedicated blog for WE is no
> problem and the OERF will support this. However we need a clear set of
> guidelines developed by the community regarding the best way to implement.
> Thanks Valerie -- great suggestions and thanks for reminding us of these
> gaps in our community :-)
>> Did anything ever come of earlier suggestions that there be a
>> WikiEducator blog with multiple contributors or a collaboratively
>> written newsletter?
>> Naturally, their first question - Where is the WikiEducator
>> newsletter? Umm, I'll get back to you on that...
>> Is there a good answer to this question?
>> ..Valerie
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
One thing that comes to mind, is if the 'blog' or whatever, is well-planned,
it could take a page from Ken Udas' creation - Terra Incognita (Penn State).
> My earlier email reads "As you know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate
> advertising on our open education sites."
> MEGA typo -- this should read "WikiEducator will *NOT *succumb to
> corporate advertising on our open education sites."
> WE don't do corporate advertising on our site and will not be doing this in
> the future -- non-negotiable. Apology for the typo -- trying to do too much.
> Cheers
> Wayne
> 2009/11/4 Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
> Hi Valerie,
>> I'm pleased that you have reminded us of the Newsletter and blog ideas!
>> *
>> Thoughts about a Newsletter*
>> Yes -- the OER Foundation definitely wants to support and promote a
>> newsletter for the WikiEducator community. There is so much happening in
>> our family around the world and we need to keep folk up-to-date with what's
>> happening. A newsletter is also a great way to connect the disconnected
>> :-). It's difficult for WikiEducator's who are less active on the site to
>> know about all the exciting things that are happening. WikiEducator will
>> certainly be able to put the community journalism concept to good use (
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_journalism)
>> In short - -the OER Foundation is very supportive of this idea and I want
>> to see a professional, high quality quarterly newsletter for our family. As
>> you know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate advertising on our open
>> education sites. However, I'm wondering about how the community feels about
>> advertising in a professional Newsletter? We need funding to support the
>> editorial and professional work associated with a high quality newsletter
>> (notwithstanding the contributions from WikiEducators around the world for
>> the newsletter.) Thoughts?
>> *
>> Thoughts about a WikiEducator blog*
>> Over the last three years -- I've been wanting to host a WikiEducator
>> blog. In fact, we installed Wordpress on our server with the view to a
>> WikiEducator community blog. However, we need to do a little thinking about
>> how best to implement a "community" blog for WikiEducator, for example:
>> - Do blog posts on a collective WikiEducator blog represent the views
>> of WikiEducator as a community? The blog sphere is typically a personal
>> publishing space -- as opposed to a collective community voice. What is the
>> approach that WikiEducator should adopt?
>> - For example, While WikiEducator was operating under the auspices of
>> the Commonwealth of Learning --- understandably a "blogging" policy was
>> introduced by the agency, which restricted freedom of speech of individuals
>> wanting to blog about different issues. Where do we draw the line between
>> personal views and collective organisational opinion of an international
>> project?
>> - The OER Foundation is very keen to host and support a community blog
>> for WikiEducator. However, we need advice and support from the community
>> regarding the best way to do this. Perhaps we need to establish a blogging
>> workgroup to think about all the issues and propose a set of guidelines for
>> a WikiEducator blog - technically, hosting a dedicated blog for WE is no
>> problem and the OERF will support this. However we need a clear set of
>> guidelines developed by the community regarding the best way to implement.
>> Thanks Valerie -- great suggestions and thanks for reminding us of these
>> gaps in our community :-)
>>> Did anything ever come of earlier suggestions that there be a
>>> WikiEducator blog with multiple contributors or a collaboratively
>>> written newsletter?
>>> Naturally, their first question - Where is the WikiEducator
>>> newsletter? Umm, I'll get back to you on that...
>>> Is there a good answer to this question?
>>> ..Valerie
>> --
>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>> Director,
>> International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
-- Open Education is a sustainable and renewable resource.
As almost other sectors of communication, Blogs also have a very big mass of
audience. For this audience penetration, though Blogs are generally
considered personal publishing, almost all the Corporates in the world
maintain Corporate Blogs.
I hope we can combine together the ideas of Blog and News Letter. The major
items of the Blog in a given period will become the content for the
Newsletter, and as Dr. Wayne has mentioned, it will talk for the WE
community among those who are not active in WE site and not a frequent
visitor of our blog.
In the Blog and newsletter we may find place for corporate advertisements
that have deliverance to our mission. It can be advertisements about events,
ODL courses, publications, public awareness campaigns etc etc
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> I'm pleased that you have reminded us of the Newsletter and blog ideas!
> *
> Thoughts about a Newsletter*
> Yes -- the OER Foundation definitely wants to support and promote a
> newsletter for the WikiEducator community. There is so much happening in
> our family around the world and we need to keep folk up-to-date with what's
> happening. A newsletter is also a great way to connect the disconnected
> :-). It's difficult for WikiEducator's who are less active on the site to
> know about all the exciting things that are happening. WikiEducator will
> certainly be able to put the community journalism concept to good use (
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_journalism)
> In short - -the OER Foundation is very supportive of this idea and I want
> to see a professional, high quality quarterly newsletter for our family. As
> you know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate advertising on our open
> education sites. However, I'm wondering about how the community feels about
> advertising in a professional Newsletter? We need funding to support the
> editorial and professional work associated with a high quality newsletter
> (notwithstanding the contributions from WikiEducators around the world for
> the newsletter.) Thoughts?
> *
> Thoughts about a WikiEducator blog*
> Over the last three years -- I've been wanting to host a WikiEducator blog.
> In fact, we installed Wordpress on our server with the view to a
> WikiEducator community blog. However, we need to do a little thinking about
> how best to implement a "community" blog for WikiEducator, for example:
> - Do blog posts on a collective WikiEducator blog represent the views
> of WikiEducator as a community? The blog sphere is typically a personal
> publishing space -- as opposed to a collective community voice. What is the
> approach that WikiEducator should adopt?
> - For example, While WikiEducator was operating under the auspices of
> the Commonwealth of Learning --- understandably a "blogging" policy was
> introduced by the agency, which restricted freedom of speech of individuals
> wanting to blog about different issues. Where do we draw the line between
> personal views and collective organisational opinion of an international
> project?
> - The OER Foundation is very keen to host and support a community blog
> for WikiEducator. However, we need advice and support from the community
> regarding the best way to do this. Perhaps we need to establish a blogging
> workgroup to think about all the issues and propose a set of guidelines for
> a WikiEducator blog - technically, hosting a dedicated blog for WE is no
> problem and the OERF will support this. However we need a clear set of
> guidelines developed by the community regarding the best way to implement.
> Thanks Valerie -- great suggestions and thanks for reminding us of these
> gaps in our community :-)
>> Did anything ever come of earlier suggestions that there be a
>> WikiEducator blog with multiple contributors or a collaboratively
>> written newsletter?
>> Naturally, their first question - Where is the WikiEducator
>> newsletter? Umm, I'll get back to you on that...
>> Is there a good answer to this question?
>> ..Valerie
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
Let me correct the typo deliverance to relevance in the last paragraph.
In the strict sense it is not a typo, I was dictating my finger to type the
word relevance some tricky impulses played in between in made my fingers
type very different word deliverance J
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:30 AM, aprasad <aplett...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear friends,
> As almost other sectors of communication, Blogs also have a very big mass
> of audience. For this audience penetration, though Blogs are generally
> considered personal publishing, almost all the Corporates in the world
> maintain Corporate Blogs.
> I hope we can combine together the ideas of Blog and News Letter. The major
> items of the Blog in a given period will become the content for the
> Newsletter, and as Dr. Wayne has mentioned, it will talk for the WE
> community among those who are not active in WE site and not a frequent
> visitor of our blog.
> In the Blog and newsletter we may find place for corporate advertisements
> that have deliverance to our mission. It can be advertisements about events,
> ODL courses, publications, public awareness campaigns etc etc
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 6:21 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Valerie,
>> I'm pleased that you have reminded us of the Newsletter and blog ideas!
>> *
>> Thoughts about a Newsletter*
>> Yes -- the OER Foundation definitely wants to support and promote a
>> newsletter for the WikiEducator community. There is so much happening in
>> our family around the world and we need to keep folk up-to-date with what's
>> happening. A newsletter is also a great way to connect the disconnected
>> :-). It's difficult for WikiEducator's who are less active on the site to
>> know about all the exciting things that are happening. WikiEducator will
>> certainly be able to put the community journalism concept to good use (
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_journalism)
>> In short - -the OER Foundation is very supportive of this idea and I want
>> to see a professional, high quality quarterly newsletter for our family. As
>> you know, WikiEducator will succumb to corporate advertising on our open
>> education sites. However, I'm wondering about how the community feels about
>> advertising in a professional Newsletter? We need funding to support the
>> editorial and professional work associated with a high quality newsletter
>> (notwithstanding the contributions from WikiEducators around the world for
>> the newsletter.) Thoughts?
>> *
>> Thoughts about a WikiEducator blog*
>> Over the last three years -- I've been wanting to host a WikiEducator
>> blog. In fact, we installed Wordpress on our server with the view to a
>> WikiEducator community blog. However, we need to do a little thinking about
>> how best to implement a "community" blog for WikiEducator, for example:
>> - Do blog posts on a collective WikiEducator blog represent the views
>> of WikiEducator as a community? The blog sphere is typically a personal
>> publishing space -- as opposed to a collective community voice. What is the
>> approach that WikiEducator should adopt?
>> - For example, While WikiEducator was operating under the auspices of
>> the Commonwealth of Learning --- understandably a "blogging" policy was
>> introduced by the agency, which restricted freedom of speech of individuals
>> wanting to blog about different issues. Where do we draw the line between
>> personal views and collective organisational opinion of an international
>> project?
>> - The OER Foundation is very keen to host and support a community blog
>> for WikiEducator. However, we need advice and support from the community
>> regarding the best way to do this. Perhaps we need to establish a blogging
>> workgroup to think about all the issues and propose a set of guidelines for
>> a WikiEducator blog - technically, hosting a dedicated blog for WE is no
>> problem and the OERF will support this. However we need a clear set of
>> guidelines developed by the community regarding the best way to implement.
>> Thanks Valerie -- great suggestions and thanks for reminding us of these
>> gaps in our community :-)
>>> Did anything ever come of earlier suggestions that there be a
>>> WikiEducator blog with multiple contributors or a collaboratively
>>> written newsletter?
>>> Naturally, their first question - Where is the WikiEducator
>>> newsletter? Umm, I'll get back to you on that...
>>> Is there a good answer to this question?
>>> ..Valerie
>> --
>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>> Director,
>> International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
there a placeholder or a link?
The example Randy suggested - http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll have
to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
blogging in action.
The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
this take shape
..Valerie
On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
community.
Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
"natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
way to support our diverse community.
Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
items that may not be ideal for the blog.
Thoughts?
Wayne
On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
> there a placeholder or a link?
> The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
> The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
> contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll have
> to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
> blogging in action.
> The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
> blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
> I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
> reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
> this take shape
> ..Valerie
> On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
Randy wrote:
> One thing that comes to mind, is if the 'blog' or whatever, is well-planned,
> it could take a page from Ken Udas' creation - Terra Incognita (Penn State).
> http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ > He had a lineup of folks on a monthly basis who brought some pretty
> interesting news and perspectives to it...
That's an excellent example! Ken did a great job with that, I was the
guest presenter one month and it was a neat experience.
I believe that Ken has moved from Penn State to UMassOnline, and it
seems that Terra Incognita has languished in his absence. What about
asking him whether it's something we could take over and run in a
similar fashion to how he did it? We could host it at
ti.wikieducator.org or something like that.
This wouldn't be the same thing as having a newsletter, but there's no
reason we can't have different publications for different purposes.
All content posted on Terra Incognita was licensed under CC-BY-SA -- which
technically means we can create derivative works. I too had a very positive
experience posting a contribution to the project.
Understandably -- Terra Incognita was branded as a PSU project, but with
open licensing there is no reason why we couldn't port the content. Its a
great project and WE / OERF could become a good home for future
contributions along similar lines.
Hey -- the more publications we have on OER the better!
Let's ping Ken and see what he thinks? I'm sure Ken could provide us with
valuable pointers for the future.
> > One thing that comes to mind, is if the 'blog' or whatever, is
> well-planned,
> > it could take a page from Ken Udas' creation - Terra Incognita (Penn
> State).
> > He had a lineup of folks on a monthly basis who brought some pretty
> > interesting news and perspectives to it...
> That's an excellent example! Ken did a great job with that, I was the
> guest presenter one month and it was a neat experience.
> I believe that Ken has moved from Penn State to UMassOnline, and it
> seems that Terra Incognita has languished in his absence. What about
> asking him whether it's something we could take over and run in a
> similar fashion to how he did it? We could host it at
> ti.wikieducator.org or something like that.
> This wouldn't be the same thing as having a newsletter, but there's no
> reason we can't have different publications for different purposes.
> -=Steve=-
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
Hi friends,
Here is a pointer from an area were extremely cautious moderation is
required . THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF US ARMY!
http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/about/ . It is the higher end of
caution-in-moderation scale. Framing moderation policy for WE blog may not
be that much difficult. Let us start.
> I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
> improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
> Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
> exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
> blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
> about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
> respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
> creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
> comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
> consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
> processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
> community.
> Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
> processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
> I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
> connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
> surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
> "natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
> but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
> do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
> newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
> way to support our diverse community.
> Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
> in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
> items that may not be ideal for the blog.
> Thoughts?
> Wayne
> On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi All
> > Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
> > there a placeholder or a link?
> > The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ > > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
> > The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
> > contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll have
> > to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
> > blogging in action.
> > The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
> > blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
> > I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
> > reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
> > this take shape
> > ..Valerie
> > On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree let's start by constituting a WE workgroup to frame the guidelines
for our collective editorial policy -- hopefully a leading, open and
transparent set of guidelines developed by our community.
> Hi friends,
> Here is a pointer from an area were extremely cautious moderation is
> required . THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF US ARMY!
> http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/about/ . It is the higher end of
> caution-in-moderation scale. Framing moderation policy for WE blog may not
> be that much difficult. Let us start.
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Valerie, Anil and Randy
>> I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
>> improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
>> Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
>> exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
>> blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
>> about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
>> respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
>> creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
>> comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
>> consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
>> processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
>> community.
>> Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
>> processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
>> I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
>> connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
>> surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
>> "natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
>> but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
>> do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
>> newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
>> way to support our diverse community.
>> Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
>> in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
>> items that may not be ideal for the blog.
>> Thoughts?
>> Wayne
>> On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi All
>> > Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
>> > there a placeholder or a link?
>> > The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ >> > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
>> > The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
>> > contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll have
>> > to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
>> > blogging in action.
>> > The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
>> > blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
>> > I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
>> > reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
>> > this take shape
>> > ..Valerie
>> > On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
> I agree let's start by constituting a WE workgroup to frame the guidelines
> for our collective editorial policy -- hopefully a leading, open and
> transparent set of guidelines developed by our community.
> Hi friends,
>> Here is a pointer from an area were extremely cautious moderation is
>> required . THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF US ARMY!
>> http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/about/ . It is the higher end of
>> caution-in-moderation scale. Framing moderation policy for WE blog may not
>> be that much difficult. Let us start.
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Valerie, Anil and Randy
>>> I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
>>> improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
>>> Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
>>> exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
>>> blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
>>> about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
>>> respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
>>> creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
>>> comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
>>> consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
>>> processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
>>> community.
>>> Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
>>> processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
>>> I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
>>> connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
>>> surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
>>> "natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
>>> but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
>>> do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
>>> newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
>>> way to support our diverse community.
>>> Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
>>> in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
>>> items that may not be ideal for the blog.
>>> Thoughts?
>>> Wayne
>>> On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi All
>>> > Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
>>> > there a placeholder or a link?
>>> > The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ >>> > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
>>> > The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
>>> > contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll have
>>> > to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
>>> > blogging in action.
>>> > The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
>>> > blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
>>> > I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
>>> > reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
>>> > this take shape
>>> > ..Valerie
>>> > On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
I would love to see Ken leading a project like this :-) -- That would be
amazing! However that's a decision for Ken.
I know that Ken has significant demands on his time, and may not have the
time available to give this project the time it deserves. But no harm in
asking.
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Anil,
>> Great example!
>> I agree let's start by constituting a WE workgroup to frame the guidelines
>> for our collective editorial policy -- hopefully a leading, open and
>> transparent set of guidelines developed by our community.
>> Hi friends,
>>> Here is a pointer from an area were extremely cautious moderation is
>>> required . THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF US ARMY!
>>> http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/about/ . It is the higher end of
>>> caution-in-moderation scale. Framing moderation policy for WE blog may not
>>> be that much difficult. Let us start.
>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Valerie, Anil and Randy
>>>> I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
>>>> improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
>>>> Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
>>>> exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
>>>> blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
>>>> about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
>>>> respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
>>>> creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
>>>> comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
>>>> consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
>>>> processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
>>>> community.
>>>> Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
>>>> processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
>>>> I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
>>>> connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
>>>> surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
>>>> "natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
>>>> but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
>>>> do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
>>>> newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
>>>> way to support our diverse community.
>>>> Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
>>>> in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
>>>> items that may not be ideal for the blog.
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> Wayne
>>>> On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Hi All
>>>> > Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
>>>> > there a placeholder or a link?
>>>> > The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ >>>> > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
>>>> > The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
>>>> > contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll have
>>>> > to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
>>>> > blogging in action.
>>>> > The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
>>>> > blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
>>>> > I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
>>>> > reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
>>>> > this take shape
>>>> > ..Valerie
>>>> > On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> --
>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>> Director,
>> International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
> I would love to see Ken leading a project like this :-) -- That would be
> amazing! However that's a decision for Ken.
> I know that Ken has significant demands on his time, and may not have the
> time available to give this project the time it deserves. But no harm in
> asking.
>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Anil,
>>> Great example!
>>> I agree let's start by constituting a WE workgroup to frame the
>>> guidelines for our collective editorial policy -- hopefully a leading, open
>>> and transparent set of guidelines developed by our community.
>>> Hi friends,
>>>> Here is a pointer from an area were extremely cautious moderation is
>>>> required . THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF US ARMY!
>>>> http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/about/ . It is the higher end of
>>>> caution-in-moderation scale. Framing moderation policy for WE blog may not
>>>> be that much difficult. Let us start.
>>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Valerie, Anil and Randy
>>>>> I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
>>>>> improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
>>>>> Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
>>>>> exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
>>>>> blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
>>>>> about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
>>>>> respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
>>>>> creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
>>>>> comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
>>>>> consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
>>>>> processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
>>>>> community.
>>>>> Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
>>>>> processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
>>>>> I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
>>>>> connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
>>>>> surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
>>>>> "natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
>>>>> but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
>>>>> do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
>>>>> newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
>>>>> way to support our diverse community.
>>>>> Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
>>>>> in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
>>>>> items that may not be ideal for the blog.
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>> On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Hi All
>>>>> > Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
>>>>> > there a placeholder or a link?
>>>>> > The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ >>>>> > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
>>>>> > The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
>>>>> > contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll
>>>>> have
>>>>> > to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
>>>>> > blogging in action.
>>>>> > The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from the
>>>>> > blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
>>>>> > I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are good
>>>>> > reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
>>>>> > this take shape
>>>>> > ..Valerie
>>>>> > On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> --
>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>> Director,
>>> International Centre for Open Education,
>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
> --
> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
> Director,
> International Centre for Open Education,
> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org > Mobile +64 21 2436 380
> Skype: WGMNZ1
> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
We have moved beyond digital natives - we now talk about "visitors"
and "residents". :o)
http://blip.tv/file/2714106 I find this a more satisfactory characterization of a continuum along
multiple axises.
On Nov 4, 1:38 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Steve has consented to be the Convener of the WE Blog WorkGroup. Now all
those community members interested in framing policy for WE Blog may be
invited to enlist their name at:
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Anil,
>> I would love to see Ken leading a project like this :-) -- That would be
>> amazing! However that's a decision for Ken.
>> I know that Ken has significant demands on his time, and may not have the
>> time available to give this project the time it deserves. But no harm in
>> asking.
>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Anil,
>>>> Great example!
>>>> I agree let's start by constituting a WE workgroup to frame the
>>>> guidelines for our collective editorial policy -- hopefully a leading, open
>>>> and transparent set of guidelines developed by our community.
>>>> Hi friends,
>>>>> Here is a pointer from an area were extremely cautious moderation is
>>>>> required . THE OFFICIAL BLOG OF US ARMY!
>>>>> http://armylive.dodlive.mil/index.php/about/ . It is the higher end of
>>>>> caution-in-moderation scale. Framing moderation policy for WE blog may not
>>>>> be that much difficult. Let us start.
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Wayne Mackintosh <
>>>>> mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Valerie, Anil and Randy
>>>>>> I too like the "try it and tweak it school" -- a process of continuous
>>>>>> improvement, something WikiEducator does very well :-)
>>>>>> Please post a few links pointing us to a few good examples or
>>>>>> exemplars we might want to tweak for our own purposes. Given that a
>>>>>> blog is a personal publishing space -- we need to think carefully
>>>>>> about how to set this up -- If its a WikiEducator blog -- in some
>>>>>> respects it represents the "voice" of WikiEducator and we should thing
>>>>>> creatively about editorial processes. Individual posts are personal
>>>>>> comments, whereas the blog posts would be the community voice --
>>>>>> consequently we will need to have open and transparent editorial
>>>>>> processes that will support the editors in reflecting the voice of the
>>>>>> community.
>>>>>> Why don't we set up a "blogging" workgroup to review and propose the
>>>>>> processes and editorial guidelines for the WE blog?
>>>>>> I see the newsletter serving a "different" audience -- its a way of
>>>>>> connecting the disconnected, that is educators who may not regularly
>>>>>> surf and / or participate actively in the wiki project. The digital
>>>>>> "natives" are more likely to keep up-to-date through the blogsphere,
>>>>>> but WikiEducator has thousands of members in the developing world who
>>>>>> do not have the luxury of affordable and reliable connectivity. The
>>>>>> newsletter, which can be reproduced locally in print format is a great
>>>>>> way to support our diverse community.
>>>>>> Clearly there will be blog posts and items that we would want to carry
>>>>>> in the newsletter -- but at the same time, there would be news worthy
>>>>>> items that may not be ideal for the blog.
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>> On Nov 5, 3:20 am, valerie <vtay...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > Hi All
>>>>>> > Thanks Wayne - having Wordpress installed is a great first step. Is
>>>>>> > there a placeholder or a link?
>>>>>> > The example Randy suggested -http://blog.worldcampus.psu.edu/ >>>>>> > It is really Ken's blog with friends and colleagues as contributors.
>>>>>> > The WE way would be more open - a few editors and lots of
>>>>>> > contributors. There are plenty of examples of this working - I'll
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> > to dig up some links, but I'm sure most people have seen this team
>>>>>> > blogging in action.
>>>>>> > The glossy newsletter could wait until there is some content from
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> > blog to incorporate into a more formal (and costly) production.
>>>>>> > I'm very much of the "try it and tweek it" school, but there are
>>>>>> good
>>>>>> > reasons to take a more measured approach. Looking forward to seeing
>>>>>> > this take shape
>>>>>> > ..Valerie
>>>>>> > On Nov 3, 5:06 pm, Randy Fisher <wikira...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> --
>>>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>>>> Director,
>>>> International Centre for Open Education,
>>>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>>>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>>>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator,
>>>> www.wikieducator.org >>>> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>>>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>>>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>> --
>> Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
>> Director,
>> International Centre for Open Education,
>> Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
>> Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
>> Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org >> Mobile +64 21 2436 380
>> Skype: WGMNZ1
>> Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
> We have moved beyond digital natives - we now talk about "visitors"
> and "residents". :o)
> http://blip.tv/file/2714106 > I find this a more satisfactory characterization of a continuum along
> multiple axises.
> On Nov 4, 1:38 pm, Wayne Mackintosh <mackintosh.wa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >The digital "natives"
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
Anil wrote:
> Steve has consented to be the Convener of the WE Blog WorkGroup.
> Now all those community members interested in framing policy for
> WE Blog may be invited to enlist their name at:
> http://www.wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Blog
One thing I can report is that I briefly corresponded with Ken Udas
and he's interested in moving Terra Incognita to WikiEducator, and
that a neutral location like WE might be better than as part of a
university web site as it's been thus far. He's at a conference and
said we should discuss it further on his return.
While TI would be a very nice feather in WE's cap, I'd like to see a
few different blogs for different purposes, including a relatively
open access one where there are a few moderators but anyone can sign
up to contribute. But we can talk about many possibilities once we
get a working group together. :-)
BIG thanks to you both for volunteering to set-up and convene the Blog
workgroup :-) This workgroup is in very capable hands! I'll be signing up
-- and do my best to keep up (I have a lot on my plate at the moment --
setting up the foundations for OERF etc.)
WE would be a great home for Terra Incognita --- well aligned with our
values and community. TI will be a tremendous community asset which we can
nurture and help grow. I also like your thoughts for different categories
of blogs.
Do you envisage the workgroup to be informal or a Community Workgroup
constituted in terms of our Policy for Community Workgroups? See:
http://tinyurl.com/yebzyw7 -- The work of this group is certainly important
enough to qualify for a WE Community Workgroup.
> > Steve has consented to be the Convener of the WE Blog WorkGroup.
> > Now all those community members interested in framing policy for
> > WE Blog may be invited to enlist their name at:
> > http://www.wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Blog
> One thing I can report is that I briefly corresponded with Ken Udas
> and he's interested in moving Terra Incognita to WikiEducator, and
> that a neutral location like WE might be better than as part of a
> university web site as it's been thus far. He's at a conference and
> said we should discuss it further on his return.
> While TI would be a very nice feather in WE's cap, I'd like to see a
> few different blogs for different purposes, including a relatively
> open access one where there are a few moderators but anyone can sign
> up to contribute. But we can talk about many possibilities once we
> get a working group together. :-)
-- Wayne Mackintosh, Ph.D.
Director,
International Centre for Open Education,
Otago Polytechnic, New Zealand.
Board of Directors, OER Foundation.
Founder and Community Council Member, Wikieducator, www.wikieducator.org Mobile +64 21 2436 380
Skype: WGMNZ1
Twitter: OERFoundation, Mackiwg
>I'd like to see a
> few different blogs for different purposes,
One idea may be to have separate "personal" blogs and then have a
community blog aggregated from those. For example see http://planet.gentoo.org/ which is aggregated from different developer's blogs.
John
On Nov 6, 4:17 am, Steve Foerster <st...@hiresteve.com> wrote:
> Anil wrote:
> > Steve has consented to be the Convener of the WE Blog WorkGroup.
> > Now all those community members interested in framing policy for
> > WE Blog may be invited to enlist their name at:
> >http://www.wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Blog
> One thing I can report is that I briefly corresponded with Ken Udas
> and he's interested in moving Terra Incognita to WikiEducator, and
> that a neutral location like WE might be better than as part of a
> university web site as it's been thus far. He's at a conference and
> said we should discuss it further on his return.
> While TI would be a very nice feather in WE's cap, I'd like to see a
> few different blogs for different purposes, including a relatively
> open access one where there are a few moderators but anyone can sign
> up to contribute. But we can talk about many possibilities once we
> get a working group together. :-)
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 5:05 PM, john stampe <jwsta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Steve,
> >I'd like to see a
> > few different blogs for different purposes,
> One idea may be to have separate "personal" blogs and then have a
> community blog aggregated from those. For example see
> http://planet.gentoo.org/ > which is aggregated from different developer's blogs.
> John
> On Nov 6, 4:17 am, Steve Foerster <st...@hiresteve.com> wrote:
> > Anil wrote:
> > > Steve has consented to be the Convener of the WE Blog WorkGroup.
> > > Now all those community members interested in framing policy for
> > > WE Blog may be invited to enlist their name at:
> > >http://www.wikieducator.org/Workgroup:WikiEducator_Blog
> > One thing I can report is that I briefly corresponded with Ken Udas
> > and he's interested in moving Terra Incognita to WikiEducator, and
> > that a neutral location like WE might be better than as part of a
> > university web site as it's been thus far. He's at a conference and
> > said we should discuss it further on his return.
> > While TI would be a very nice feather in WE's cap, I'd like to see a
> > few different blogs for different purposes, including a relatively
> > open access one where there are a few moderators but anyone can sign
> > up to contribute. But we can talk about many possibilities once we
> > get a working group together. :-)
John wrote:
> One idea may be to have separate "personal" blogs and then have a
> community blog aggregated from those. For example see
> http://planet.gentoo.org/ which is aggregated from different developer's
> blogs.
Do you mean where people would have their own blogs, hosted wherever,
and if they posted something relevant to WE could tag it, say in
Delicious or something, and then those posts from various sources
would appear somewhere on the WE site?
There are lots of different ways to handle "aggregation"
- Plant Gentoo - each contributor listed maintains own blog whereever,
all posts are automatically? included in this blog - quick scan seems
to indicate that there isn't any editorial control over what appears
in the aggregated blog. Implies an honor system and single topic
contributor blog - everything posted to my blog will be broadcast via
the aggregation blog
http://planet.gentoo.org/
- single WE blog - many contributors, few editors - individual
contributions are not published by the author, only editors have
publish authority
?? individual blogs on the WE Wordpress installation with editors
pulling in what they want to publish as the WE blog - contributors can
publish as their own blog, editors publish to the WE blog
On Nov 6, 6:06 am, Steve Foerster <st...@hiresteve.com> wrote:
Neat thoughts going around here. I've been wanting to comment, so here we go. :-)
In my short jaunt into freelance writing, and in my (and my friends') experience as a reader, I find there are LOTS of reasons for writing blogs, and generally one set of reasons for writing newletters.
*corporate blogs*: These are done for two reasons. The first is to attract search engines to the corporate website. Websites that are frequently updated (most corporate site pages aren't, but a blog is) are frequently crawled, and as long as it is SEO, it will stay at or near the top of the search engine results page (SERP) longer. The other reason is to engage the public. This is a new thing and a big deal for product marketing. The idea is that if you can engage a potential client on more than just a salesperson to customer level, you are actually more likely to succeed in selling him or her that product. This is the same reasoning behind social network marketing.
*entertainment/informative blogs*: These come in two categories: independent and sponsored. Independent blogs tend to be used to interact with the public on a favoured subject. Examples of these are
These blogs run on a theme and usually stick with it. The blogs that are identified by a specific author will occassionally veer off into something different or personal, but the author tends to stick with a certain theme.
Sponsored blogs are organised by a single internet entity, are usually commisioned by the entity, and revolve around an umbrella subject that has lots of facets, but typically are not required to "represent" the sponsor in any specific way. This has the effect of engaging a wider audience on their potentially infinite range of interests, all within a specific "home space" on the internet. Examples are:
And then there are *newsletters*. These are a way of keeping the interested public aware of official goings on, and opinions. They can highlight internal blog articles or communications that reinforce organisation ideals. The blog concept can reciprocate by taking newsletter stories and engaging the public with them. Newsletters help keep people informed and aware of the organisational identity.
I think a newsletter would be a fantastic idea for WE. Contrary to the way the mail list works, it could be automatically sent via MW to all registered emails, keeping members connected. (We do have a lot of people that register but never come back, don't we?). There could be a preference that can be unchecked to stop sending the newsletter.
The blog thing, I believe, would require some analysis on what we want out of it, and then how to organise it. What would blogging do for us? Which of the above blogging sectors do we fit into? (Probably sponsored, informative) How much blog content do we want to have, ideally? What blog topics are integral to presenting a cohesive, professional blog umbrella to the public? Do we allow just anyone to blog, or restrict it to author/subject/ability approvals?
I do think there is a difference between the "freedom of speech" issue, and the "appropriateness" issue brought up by Anil's US Army example.
It is definitely ideal to edit for appropriateness, and I do think the newsletter should be edited for its adherence to WE's ideals, but I believe that blogging should be open to opinion, nevertheless containing an opinion disclaimer.
Anyway, just the things that were running through my head this week.
> Did anything ever come of earlier suggestions that there be a
> WikiEducator blog with multiple contributors or a collaboratively
> written newsletter?
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