BEE Thank you: [WikiEducator] Re: copyright and newspaper articles

[Mary]

Thank you so much, Bee! Wonderful applications of fantastic materials.
You are an inspiration!

On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Barbara Dieu <beeo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Mary,
Some time ago I  used an article from the Times for a reading
comprehension exercise and in order to have it online I had to ask for
a special permission and stick it on the page (or else pay $ 2000 to
have it.   See:
http://beespace.net/resources/hotpot/wtc1.html

Some published content can be easily downloaded and worked upon like
for instance
http://beespace.net/resources/logo/index.html

In some cases, however, especially for  articles placed under a
password, this permission was denied or I'd have to buy it (for a
single use).

Linking directly to the article poses problems  because of link rot -
if we have no access to the source,  the whole exercise is lost. For
foreign language teachers, topical articles in newspapers are a bonus
and so are some of the photographs. Maybe Wikieducator, as an
institution,  could try to dialogue with the main press publishers to
allows us to copy them into the wiki  and link back, mentioning and
crediting the source so as to have them more available. I am sure they
realize this would be a way to diffuse and give an added value to
their content as well.

Warm regards from Brazil,
Bee

BTW, I am planning to shift  most of this material from my website to
Wikieducator (time permitting).


--
Barbara Dieu
http://barbaradieu.com
http://beespace.net

[john stampe]

Hi, Mary

 

Sorry I did not get into the discussion earlier (computer problems :) ). I would basically agree with most of what already has been said. However, I will give you one warning on newspaper articles.

 

Associated Press (AP) has stated that quoting more than four words of an article or even linking to an article is violation of copyright (unless you pay a fee). And they have been agressive in filing lawsuits. So don't use or link to AP copyright articles.

 

See http://www.boingboing.net/2008/06/17/associated-press-exp.html for details.
 

http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS
http://johnsearth.blogspot.com

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From: Mary <light...@gmail.com>
To: wikied...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 2:52:16 AM
Subject: BEE Thank you: [WikiEducator] Re: copyright and newspaper articles

[Stephen Downes]

The right to link to articles has been well defended in court cases and is not open to serious challenge. So I wouldn't worry about linking.

Moreover, the right to excerpt even a few words is also well established.

AP may posture (or, at least, they did as of the BoingBoing article from 2008) but they are not a serious threat at this time to fair use (or mfair dealing). Link freely, and keep quotes to less than ten percent of the article, and you;re fine.

-- Stephen

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Stephen Downes  ~  Research Officer  ~  National Research Council Canada

http://www.downes.ca  ~  ste...@downes.ca         __\|/__ Free Learning

[Mary]

Thank you John for the heads up!

[Mary]

Thank you Stephen for you advice.