Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

[Patricia Schlicht]

Dear Friends,

 

I had a few recent discussions regarding the need to inform about copyrights and I was wondering if it was a good idea to expand the WikiEducator Learning4Content Tutorials and add  a ‘’Copyright’ Tutorials that addresses the need for more information, options and enhances open questions of how deal with certain scenarios that are being brought forward.

 

Some information on WE can be found here, but I think it is time that we formally developed a tutorial that works to educate about options. What do you think?:

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Copyrights

 

 

Cheers,

Patricia

 

Patricia Schlicht

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[Phil Bartle]

I like the idea of a set of tutorials, and that they can each be taken at any time, maybe focusing on two or three topics each.

The topic of copyrights can be included on one of them, along with a few related topics, such as various ways to collaborate, and when to leave someone's work untouched.

Unlike the introductory tutorials, which are excellent as they are, these proposed secondary tutorials may have fewer facilitators, and those facilitators be responsible for topics that particularly interest them.

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[Patricia Schlicht]

Hi Phil,

 

As you say, we do have brilliant Learning4Content tutorials 1-10 which teach how to use wiki technology, plus a few more on other important subjects such as the use of Kaltura (video editing) for instance, and how to create a learning resource and others etc that are not taught in the bottom line course but are available for self learning.

 

Awareness of copyright options is something that is important to our work in OER development and while there is  information, there is no tutorial that teaches us the meaning of what each license actually means.

 

Copyrights are a large topic and it is important to know how to interpret and apply them correctly in your OER work.

 

Cheers,

Patricia

[Steve Foerster]

Patricia wrote:

<< I had a few recent discussions regarding the need to inform about
copyrights and I was wondering if it was a good idea to expand the
WikiEducator Learning4Content Tutorials and add a ‘’Copyright’
Tutorials that addresses the need for more information, options and
enhances open questions of how deal with certain scenarios that are
being brought forward. >>

How would you approach that the regulations on various readers will
differ depending on which country they are in? That sounds like a
monumental task....

-=Steve=-

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[Patricia Schlicht]

Hi Steve,

That is a very good question, Steve and there is no easy answer. There
are many books out there that in no way provide all the answers but
attempt to give a general overview of what the license restrictions mean
and refer or provide references to more information elsewhere.

I don't think you could do one tutorial for everything there is but one
could start at the bottom line and give you some idea of what certain
license restrictions mean and what your options are.

I don't claim to be the expert on this subject but the I can clearly see
through the experiences I have had over the years, that there is a need
for this

Cheers,
Patricia

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Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Should we develop an additional
tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching
Copyrights

[Patricia Schlicht]

...or develop them country specific and in the process develop the
largest copyright information resource pool there is....

[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi Patricia,
I think it is a super idea and commend Gladys and you for taking the initiative and moving things along.
Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
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Doctoral Student
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[Nadia El Borai]

I would join a tutorial on copyright please count me in if you are having one.

Nadia

Nadia El Borai

[Patricia Schlicht]

Absolutely, Gladys is offering an extra session this morning as pre-workshop session in her current Learning4Content workshop, starting Monday. The need is there, no doubt about it, the question for me is, how best to go about starting the development of a copyright tutorial.

 

Thank you, Nadia for offering to help and I am hoping that we can find many more volunteers with expertise in copyrights that are willing to extend themselves. So I went ahead and created a new page to work from :

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights

 

I encourage everybody to come out to address this important issue. I am in now way an expert in this area but I am willing to help where I can.

 

Cheers,

Patricia

[Patricia Schlicht]

I should also mention that Nellie Deutsch and Gladys Gahona are both volunteering her time and effort in raising awareness and building capacity among the educators around this world in the copyrights education.

 

http://www.wiziq.com/public/Session_Details.aspx?detail=189267_Education%20in%20%c2%a9opyright%20Law_teacher_Nellie_Deutsch

 

Come join them today, the session is starting shortly.

Cheers,

 

 

Patricia

[Nadia El Borai]

I would like to learn! So I am not sure how much help I can be.

Nadia 

[Kim Tucker]

Good idea. Perhaps in the process the following could used and enhanced:

Brief History of Copyright:
http://wikieducator.org/Brief_History_of_Copyright

Is there a Category for learning resources on copyright?

Here is another relevant page:
http://wikieducator.org/A_copyright_bibliography

K

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Patricia Schlicht wrote:
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I had a few recent discussions regarding the need to inform about
> copyrights and I was wondering if it was a good idea to expand the
> WikiEducator Learning4Content Tutorials and add a ‘’Copyright’
> Tutorials that addresses the need for more information, options and
> enhances open questions of how deal with certain scenarios that are
> being brought forward.
>
> Some information on WE can be found here, but I think it is time that
> we formally developed a tutorial that works to educate about options.
> What do you think?:
>
> http://www.wikieducator.org/Copyrights
>
> Cheers,
>
> Patricia
>

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[Ebert, Sheri]

That is a very good idea, do to the number of students that use pbworks in education.
Sheri L Ebert
Science, Technology, School Forest
Adams-Friendship Middle School
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(608)339-4064

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Cc: WikiEducator
Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

[Omutujju Ronald]

It is avery brilliant idea but the law should be universal to cater for all countries. Those with legal experience can come in handy. Otherwise members could look up the law in their countries and post for others to see.

 

Patricia

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Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 7:19:46 AM

[maud hyde]

Hi Patricia,
I support developing the tutorials as copyright is a big issue and folks tend to not pay enough attention to the topic.

Regards,

Maud


--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org> wrote:

[Patricia Schlicht]

Wow, Maud this is wonderful news. Thank you!

 

Would you enter your name on the list of supporters on the WE site below. You will find the section under the tutorial Sandbox link at the bottom

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights

 

Applying your name, you open the “edit” page of that page, go to “List of Volunteers” and where you want the signature to appear, click on the button and save.

 

Thank you again.

Cheers,

Patricia

[Patricia Schlicht]

Thank you, Sheri for your comment and Kim for your suggestions. I have
entered the links on the WE page, so we won't loose the information in
the wealth of info that is coming through.

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrig
hts/tutorial_Sandbox

Cheers,
Patricia

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From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On

[Dr R C Sharma]

Greetings to all,

 

Since we are working on copyright issues, hopefully this below message would be of interest to all:

 

Sent by Alan Story

~~~~~~~~~~

NEWS RELEASE FROM THE COPYSOUTH RESEARCH GROUP  OCTOBER 2009.
                                                          
What are the basic nuts and bolts (and traps and dead ends) of copyright
law? Who owns copyright (hint: it is usually not the author)? What rights do
users have? Do international copyright conventions work in the interest of the
peoples of the world, and, if not, why not?

These are a few of the questions that are taken up and answered in “An
alternative primer on national and international copyright law in the global
South: eighteen questions and answers”. It has been written by Alan Story
and was published in September 2009 by the CopySouth Research Group.

The intended audience: librarians, musicians, downloaders and book readers,
information activists, students, and others who want to know how the
copyright system actually works in practice in your country in Latin America,
Africa, and Asia.

In 68 pages of straightforward and non-legalistic writing, this primer tries to
unpack and explain a number of both simple and complicated concepts.You will
NOT find it on the list of texts recommended by the World Intellectual
Property Organisation (WIPO)…. but your comments and criticisms are
welcome on the website below.

The Primer can be downloaded at:  
http://copysouth.org/portal/copyright-primer

A Spanish and Portuguese translation of the Primer will be completed and
available in the next six months.

Alan Story teaches intellectual property law at Kent Law School in the United
Kingdom.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

COMUNICADO DE PRENSA DEL GRUPO DE INVESTIGACIÓN COPYSOUTH -
OCTUBRE DE 2009.
                                                           
¿Cuáles son las tuercas y los tornillos (y las trampas y callejones sin salida) en
la base de la ley de derecho de autor? ¿Quién posee los derechos de autor
(pista: no es generalmente el autor)? ¿Qué derechos tienen los usuarios? Los
tratados internacionales de derecho de autor funcionan en interés de las
personas del mundo, y, si no, ¿por qué no?

Estas son algunas de las preguntas que se hacen y responden en “Un manual
alternativo de leyes nacionales e internacionales de derecho de autor en el
Sur global: dieciocho preguntas y respuestas”. Fue escrito por Alan Story, y
se publicó en septiembre de 2009 por el Grupo de Investigación CopySouth.

El público objetivo: los bibliotecarios, músicos, quienes descargan de Internet,
lectores, activistas de la información, estudiantes y otras personas que
quieren saber cómo funciona el sistema de derechos de autor en la práctica en
su país en América Latina, África y Asia.

En 68 páginas de texto directo y no legalista, este manual trata de
desempaquetar y explicar una serie de conceptos tanto simples como
complicados. No lo encontrará en la lista de textos recomendados por la
Organización Mundial de la Propiedad Intelectual (OMPI)… pero sus
comentarios y críticas son bienvenidos en la página web que se anuncia más
abajo.

El Manual puede descargarse en:
http://copysouth.org/portal/copyright-primer

La traducción al español y portugués del Manual estará disponible en los
próximos seis meses.

Alan Story es profesor de derecho de propiedad intelectual en la facultad de
Derecho de la Universidad de Kent, en el Reino Unido.

~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

regards

ramesh

[Patricia Schlicht]

Thank  you, Ramesh, I have included it under the references we will be looking at later.

Cheers,

Patricia

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights/tutorial_Sandbox#References_used_to_develop_this_tutorial

<br

[Patricia Schlicht]

Thank you, Omutujju for suggestions. They have been noted.

Warm wishes,

Patricia

 

From: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com [mailto:wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Omutujju Ronald
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:25 AM
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

 

It is avery brilliant idea but the law should be universal to cater for all countries. Those with legal experience can come in handy. Otherwise members could look up the law in their countries and post for others to see.

 

Patricia

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From: Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org>
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com; wikied...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 7:19:46 AM
Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

[Kim Tucker]

Hi all,

I have posted a question on the sandbox's discussion page about the tone
of the tutorial suggesting:
"/Sharing is good/. Emphasise the benefits of sharing in education and
how to do it right (legally) and most efficiently. "

http://www.wikieducator.org/Talk:Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights/tutorial_Sandbox

A few relevant gems:

http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/
http://creativecommons.org/videos

- added to the list of references in the tutorial sandbox:
http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights/tutorial_Sandbox

K

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Patricia Schlicht wrote:
>
> Wow, Maud this is wonderful news. Thank you!
>
> Would you enter your name on the list of supporters on the WE site
> below. You will find the section under the tutorial Sandbox link at
> the bottom
>
> http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights
>
> Applying your name, you open the “edit” page of that page, go to “List
> of Volunteers” and where you want the signature to appear, click on
> the button and save.
>

[Dr R C Sharma]

Dear Patricia

Greetings

 

Thanks, yes I noticed it there.

 

with regards

ramesh

[Chris Babowal]

Patricia, I am willing to help develop a workshop on copyright.  I have lived the nightmare of international intellectual property litigation.  If I can help others avoid this nightmare, I am more than willing to help. Chris Babowal President Babowal & Associates, Inc. San Jose, CA 95128 Skype: babceo --- On Mon, 10/26/09, Dr R C Sharma <rcsh...@ignou.ac.in> wrote:

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[Patricia Schlicht]

Wow, Chris, this is fantastic news, thank you, we can use all the help we can get. Would you enter your name under volunteers on the wiki page below

 

See here:

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights

 

Warm wishes,

Patricia

[R C Sharma]

Dear Chris,

thanks, this is a good idea and will definitely be useful to all to learn the nitty gritty of IPR laws.
 

with best wishes

ramesh

 

R. C. Sharma, Ph.D.
Director
Institute of Distance and Continuing Education (IDCE),
Flat 5, Queen's College Compound,
Camp Road, Gerogetown, Guyana (South America)

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From: Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org>
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wed, October 28, 2009 3:25:12 PM

OCTUBRE DE 2009..

[Chris Babowal]

Hi! I got excited this morning about helping develop the Copyright page.  I have started a very practical page of  explanation, sources and recourse about copyright.  The page includes information for universities and the Teach Act (US).  I have included information about various countries and international law information.  I have not included much for the private sector. I hope this is a good first step. I could not find the volunteer list so I have not added by name.  If someone could point me directly to the sign up list I would appreciate it. I would love feedback on the page.  Chris Babowal Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899 --- On Sat, 10/24/09, Kim Tucker <kctu...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Kim Tucker <kctu...@gmail.com> Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com

[Chris Babowal]

Please view and reply: http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Images_and_Media/Types_of_Copyright_Licenes

Chris Babowal Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899

[Patricia Schlicht]

Dear  Chris,

 

This is amazing! You have contributed a lot of information already with the input of this. Thank you!!This is very useful information and a great start.

 

 I am going to leave your input  under the “Types of Copyrights” tab for now, it is however possible that it will find a new subpage along the process, once the community is starting discussions on intended objectives, to help us determine the optimal structure for the copyright tutorial.

 

I am asking all our WikiEducator friends in the world community, to give their input on this, I have therefore established a subpage called “Objectives for this tutorial “on the wiki page below. Kindly input your thoughts there. Please apply your e-signature, when making your comments.

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights

 

Cheers

Patricia

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[Patricia Schlicht]

Dear Friends,

 

I gave some thought to objectives for the copyright tutorial we are planning to develop. It would be great if we could find a course writer and designer who would be willing to work with us.

 

Here is a first draft. In no way written in stone. I am also raising  two questions.

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights/Objectives_for_this_Tutorial#What_should_the_intended_objectives_to_determine_the_structure_of_this_Tutorial_be.3F

Warm wishes,

Patricia

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi everyone

This is a great initiative --- clearly an important need in our community. 

Given the complexity of copyright, it may be a good idea to have a dedicated planning page, for example the one Patricia created here:

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights/tutorial_Sandbox

Perhaps it would be better to list tentative ideas on the outcomes / objectives on the planning page rather than creating a separate sub-page for the objectives at this stage? 

I think we need to spend a little time grappling with the design questions being listed on the planning page, as this will help inform the structure and intended outcomes.

Wow -- lots of energy with this project -- lets make it happen.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/10/29 Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org>

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[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Patricia,
Are you looking for a volunteer to develop the course?

Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Sharing is Caring!
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction

Integrating Technology @ http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd

Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/
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[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi Nellie

Would be great if a couple of WikiEducators could share the load?  --- We have a wide range of experience and talents within the family to develop a master piece :-)

Cheers
Wayne

2009/10/29 NELLIE DEUTSCH <nellie.mul...@gmail.com>

[Michael Piper]

Nellie,

 

I am still in this can you withdraw me,

 

Michael Piper

Assistant Principal

St Josephs School Onehunga

021 0327772

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From: NELLIE DEUTSCH [mailto:nellie.mul...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 29 October 2009 1:27 p.m.

[Patricia Schlicht]

Absolutely, Wayne, thanks for coming in. I had intended the “Tutorial Sandbox” as “Idea page” or “Planning Page”, thanks for making it clearer.

We can move the content on the Objective page I had created over to the planning page, no problem

As for structure and ideas, what’s there is only intended to jolt our memory and get our creative ideas flowing – nothing is written in stone as you say. It is definitely a little early. Thanks

Cheers,

Patricia

[Chris Babowal]

Patricia, I am sorry if I over stepped the copyright page.  I only wanted to add to the page.  I get sick easily and need to do things when I am able.  I thought having a page with references could be very helpful.  I will gladly remove the information upon your request. A suggestion:  maybe there is a law professor out there that can advise us on the development of the course.  I have had lots of experience with lawyers who do not specialize in this area.  They get things wrong regularly.  I would not like to see us provide bad information

Chris Babowal Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899

--- On Wed, 10/28/09, Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org> wrote:

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi Chris --

The page you posted provides extremely valuable materials and is an excellent draft which we would love to incorporate into the tutorials. You did the right thing -- this is a wiki and you should be bold in adding content :-)

If the page is in the wrong place -- not too worry, Its very easy to move the page and incorporate this with the work of the copyright tutorial pages  --- I'm pretty sure that the team collaborating on the development of this tutorial will figure out the best way to incorporate your generous contribution.

Given your experience in this area -- I hope that you will be able to review and advise as we go along.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/10/29 Chris Babowal <bab...@sbcglobal.net>

[Patricia Schlicht]

Hi Chris,

 

You haven’t done anything wrong, Chris! We just have to think about Objectives, outcomes etc first before we can input content on a page as the location is  likely to change. Your input has been wonderful and the community will and has I am sure appreciated it already. I was only trying to point this out to you, that’s all. You concern is a very valid, there are many facets one has to think about. I am not an expert in this area either but each in their own right, our WikiNeighbours will make contributions and we will definitely need to find someone who will look this over. This is why I raised the question who do we want to target. We should start small and build from there. It is good to have a solid foundation and build on this. I agree with Kim and Sherry who made earlier comments, to keep it simple for now

Cheers,

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[NELLIE DEUTSCH]

Hi Everyone,
We have Dr. Bob Diotalevi as adviser. He volunteered to present at the live session and invited everyone to email him for questions. The information and recording is available on the current L4C workshop:  http://www.wikieducator.org/Learning4Content/Workshops/Online_schedule/eL4C31/Copyright

Warm wishes,
Nellie Deutsch
Sharing is Caring!
Doctoral Student
Educational Leadership
Curriculum and Instruction
Integrating Technology @ http://www.integrating-technology.com/pd
Get ready for CO10: http://connecting-online.ning.com/
Free online workshops on WikiEducator: http://www.wikieducator.org/Workshops

[Chris Babowal]

This is a great idea. I started providing some country info on the page I developed.  By the way, I will make the listing changes you suggested tomorrow.  I think Internet falls under Madrid Protocol.  I'll try to check tomorrow and post something.

Chris Babowal Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899

--- On Sun, 10/25/09, Omutujju Ronald <romu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Patricia Schlicht]

Hi Nellie,

 

That’s great. I have added the link to the references on the Tutorial Planning page:

 

http://www.wikieducator.org/Wikieducator_tutorial/Learning_about_Copyrights

 

Cheers,

Patricia

[john stampe]

Chris,

 

>I think Internet falls under Madrid Protocol.

 

I thought the Madrid Protocol was for trademarks, not copyright.

 

Cheers,

John
 

http://www.wikieducator.org/User:JohnWS
http://johnsearth.blogspot.com

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From: Chris Babowal <bab...@sbcglobal.net>
To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 8:41:45 AM

Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: [WikiEducator] Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

[Chris Babowal]

Sorry it was WIPO Copyright Treaty

Chris Babowal President Babowal & Associates, Inc.

2588 Pioneer Ave. San Jose, CA 95128 Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899 --- On Thu, 10/29/09, john stampe <jwst...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[Chris Babowal]

I am concerned about Wikieducator providing a course on any IP issue.  I am concerned that providing a course without appropriate legal education or a disclaimer statement could put Wikieducator in legal problems. I know that this sounds really far out but it is not.  We need to be very very careful.

Chris Babowal President Babowal & Associates, Inc. 2588 Pioneer Ave. San Jose, CA 95128 Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899

Business Tel.: (408) 874-6774 --- On Wed, 10/28/09, Wayne Mackintosh <mackinto...@gmail.com> wrote:

2009/10/29 Chris Babowal <bab...@sbcglobal.net>

Thank you for your input.  I do have to repeat my concern.  I think we should find a IP attorney if we are going to provide a course.  if not, then a reference page is all we want to provide, we can be held accountable for giving legal advise.

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi Chris --

I agree -- While the content is under development we should post a clear statement that the tutorials are Work in Progress using {{WIP}} on every page.

Then subject to successful donor support / fund raising, the OER Foundation could then commission legal opinion on the draft course materials.

Cheers
Wayne

2009/10/30 Chris Babowal <bab...@sbcglobal.net>

[Chris Babowal]

I often look for grant money for a service club I belong to, would you like me to look for funding for a IP lawyer to conduct these course?

Chris Babowal President Babowal & Associates, Inc. 2588 Pioneer Ave. San Jose, CA 95128 Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899

[Wayne Mackintosh]

Hi Chris,

Any support in finding funding support in helping the OER Foundation and WikiEducator achieve its aims is alway's well received.

In terms of priorities, I think that getting an international IP lawyer to review any copyright tutorials we develop would be a good starting point.  We can then think about alternatives for providing training opportunities -- possibly using the Learning4Content model with qualified IP lawyers facilitating -- that would be amazing.

If I can be of any help in providing information regarding the OER Foundation -- feel free to ask.

[Chris Babowal]

What are the basic nuts and bolts (and traps and dead ends) of copyright law?

Most international copyright laws are under Berne Convention and the WIPO Act.  Otherwise, you need to find the copyright laws of the country you are using the copyright in.  Most countries have a trademark and or patent office, which usually includes all intellectual property laws.

Who owns copyright (hint: it is usually not the author)?

Under most copyright laws the creator owns the rights to the copyright unless it was done for hire.

What rights do users have?

Fair use rights differ from country to country unless covered under international law and that country is a signature to the agreement.

Do international copyright conventions work in the interest of the peoples of the world, and, if not, why not?

International copyright laws do try to look out  for the creator but not neccessaily to people who want to use the material.

Chris Babowal Skype: babceo Cell: (408)504-8899

--- On Mon, 10/26/09, Dr R C Sharma <rcsh...@ignou.ac.in> wrote:

From: Dr R C Sharma <rcsh...@ignou.ac.in>

Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com

To: wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Re: Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

Hi Patricia,

I support developing the tutorials as copyright is a big issue and folks tend to not pay enough attention to the topic.   Regards,   Maud

--- On Fri, 10/23/09, Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org> wrote:   > From: Patricia Schlicht <PSch...@col.org>

> Subject: [WE Teacher Collaboration] Should we develop an additional tutorial to the Learning4Content tutorials for the purpose of teaching Copyrights

> To: "WikiEducator" <wikied...@googlegroups.com>, wikieducator-teacher...@googlegroups.com > Date: Friday, October 23, 2009, 7:39 PM > > > >  >  > > > > > > >  > > >

> Dear Friends,

> >    > > I had a few recent discussions > regarding the need to inform > about copyrights and I was wondering if it was a good idea > to expand the > WikiEducator Learning4Content Tutorials and add  a > ‘’Copyright’ > Tutorials that addresses the need for more information, > options and enhances open > questions of how deal with certain scenarios that are being > brought forward. > >    > > Some information on WE can be found > here, but I think it is > time that we formally developed a tutorial that works to > educate about options. > What do you think?: > >    > > http://www.wikieducator.org/Copyrights > > >    > >    > > Cheers, > > Patricia > >    >

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