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Matt Youell

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Oct 30, 2009, 2:58:48 PM10/30/09
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Jesse asked for more info about Wheeler and sadly there really is
none. I'm still very much in the transition from pure vapor to awkward
code that barely functions. :) I have a slide deck from last month's
talk, but being the egotistical bastard that I am, I deliberately
design my slides so that I have to be there yapping for you to
understand what the heck is going on.

The other day I started a series on my blog which I'm calling the
"Road to Wheeler". (http://youell.com/matt/writing/) Over the next few
days and weeks I'm going to present some scattered ideas related to
what I'm trying to do. I hope by the time I've laid down some
groundwork that I'll have a shareable interpreter that does something
more than Hello World.


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Eric Wilhelm

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Oct 30, 2009, 6:07:58 PM10/30/09
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# from Matt Youell
# on Friday 30 October 2009 11:58:

>... which I'm calling the "Road to Wheeler" ...

That's not really a very satisfying name. I would expect something
involving soup. Speaking of which, I think the bowl, ladle, and spoon
are underused analogies.

--Eric
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mean "we don't like it".
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Matt Youell

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Oct 30, 2009, 8:19:32 PM10/30/09
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On Oct 30, 3:07 pm, Eric Wilhelm <enoba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> # from Matt Youell
> >... which I'm calling the "Road to Wheeler" ...
>
> That's not really a very satisfying name.  I would expect something

I actually have a new, more relevant name in mind. It would just
change the tone of discussion a bit and I'm not sure if that is what I
want.

I'm open to suggestions.

> involving soup.  Speaking of which, I think the bowl, ladle, and spoon
> are underused analogies.

Then there's chin dribble and bib. Soup crackers. Lentils and
barley...

Now I'm hungry.

Jesse Hallett

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Oct 30, 2009, 8:41:28 PM10/30/09
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Thanks Matt!  I look forward to reading your posts.

Eric Wilhelm

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Oct 30, 2009, 8:49:07 PM10/30/09
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# from Matt Youell
# on Friday 30 October 2009 17:19:

>Then there's chin dribble and bib. Soup crackers. Lentils and
>barley...
>
>Now I'm hungry.

Right. Which is why we don't use food examples in tutorials (the reader
becomes immediately distracted if you mention pizza.) I've finally
decided on a bug-tracking game and can now move forward with my perl
tutorial (I was about to use a rugby scoring thing, but that was a
narrow win over curling.) Examples with %customers just seem boring.
(And maybe that's true without the sigil, which says something in a
different vein.)

Meanwhile, for those wanting context... I'm writing a series of
tutorials for the Perl Foundation which will end up on learn.perl.org.
If you're interested, I would welcome your feedback on or off list.

http://learnperl.scratchcomputing.com/tutorials/

Also, I told Phil I would do a "Stupid Perl 6 Tricks" presentation at
the next full meeting (probably January, but maybe December depending
on how we choose to reschedule the next couple of months.)

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Matt Youell

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Oct 31, 2009, 8:02:06 PM10/31/09
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On Oct 30, 5:49 pm, Eric Wilhelm <enoba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> narrow win over curling.)  Examples with %customers just seem boring.  
> (And maybe that's true without the sigil, which says something in a
> different vein.)

But if you use Markus' approach and represent your customers as
vectors, then you can interpolate two kinds of imperfect customer to
locate the Perfect Customer.

I will leave that as an exercise.

>
> Meanwhile, for those wanting context... I'm writing a series of
> tutorials for the Perl Foundation which will end up on learn.perl.org.  
> If you're interested, I would welcome your feedback on or off list.

Cool!

> Also, I told Phil I would do a "Stupid Perl 6 Tricks" presentation at
> the next full meeting (probably January, but maybe December depending
> on how we choose to reschedule the next couple of months.)

Even cooler. Perl 6 is one of those things on my permanent
procrastination list. Maybe seeing some examples will fire me up. Or
scare us all away. :)


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Richard Fobes

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Nov 1, 2009, 12:55:48 PM11/1/09
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This presentation sounds fun and interesting. (I too haven't had time
to look at Perl 6.)

I too have a brief(!) "presentation" to offer. Something Markus said
prompted me
to realize that a surprisingly useful characteristic of my Dashrep
language would be
of interest to our frontier-exploring group. I can explain it in 5
minutes (including a
review of Dashrep), and then I'd like to allow 5 or 10 minutes for any
discussion.
Any interest?

(It requires the use of a projector, so it's not appropriate for a pub
meeting.)

Richard

Matt Youell

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Nov 1, 2009, 7:48:40 PM11/1/09
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On Nov 1, 9:55 am, Richard Fobes <p...@SolutionsCreative.com> wrote:
> of interest to our frontier-exploring group.  I can explain it in 5
> minutes (including a
> review of Dashrep), and then I'd like to allow 5 or 10 minutes for any
> discussion.
> Any interest?

Go for it. There have been short things that I've wanted to share in
the past as well. Maybe from time to time we just do a show and tell?
We've been heavy on long-form presentations lately, but I bet more
people have smaller tidbits they might want to share.

How did your Demolicious presentation of Dashrep go?

Richard Fobes

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Nov 2, 2009, 12:36:26 PM11/2/09
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On Nov 1, 4:48 pm, Matt Youell <softbuil...@gmail.com> wrote:
> .... Maybe from time to time we just do a show and tell?
> We've been heavy on long-form presentations lately, but I bet more
> people have smaller tidbits they might want to share.

Yes, I agree. (It's nice to have both.)

> How did your Demolicious presentation of Dashrep go?

It was appreciated.

For that presentation I created an interactive demo, which is at
Dashrep.org. I'll show it when I give my brief presentation.

What helped for the Demolicious presentation is that I applied what I
learned from reading books titled "Slide:ology" and "Presentation
Zen".

Soon I'll get yet more practice presenting because I'll be presenting
at Ignite Salem on November 12. I had submitted the talk for Ignite
Portland, was not chosen, and then got an invitation to present it at
Ignite Salem. It's titled "YIP movie rating and other creative
solutions".

BTW, another useful presentation resource is at http://www.bbc.co.uk/speaker/improve/

Richard
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