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dg2...@gmail.com  
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 More options Mar 26, 9:05 am
From: dg2...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Mar 26 2009 9:05 am
Subject: [webc] & Hotmail
Hya,

I'm using webconverger 4.3 (mini, also tried 4.2, same issue) and
sending e-mail from hotmail.com is not possible. You can type a email
message (RTF/HTML or no text format) but when the message has been
send the one receiving gets a empty mail, only subject is filled in.
(tried from live.com / hotmail.com / live.nl e-mail addresses).
Sending to a hotmail/live address is nog problem, only sending from
those addresses something goes wrong

Anyone having the same issue / ever seen this issue before ? or any
possible solution ? please let me know.


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Kai Hendry  
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 More options Mar 28, 11:49 am
From: Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:49:09 +0000
Local: Sat, Mar 28 2009 11:49 am
Subject: Re: [webc] & Hotmail
Do you have the same behaviour in Firefox 3?

Any hotmail users out there? :-)


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dg2102@gmail.com  
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From: "dg2...@gmail.com" <dg2...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 07:52:21 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Apr 1 2009 10:52 am
Subject: Re: & Hotmail
Kai,

Behavior in Firefox 3 in windows isn't the same. In windows I tried it
and those e-mails are correct, so i don't think it's the browser
causing the issue.

Can u try on your end to run webc mini 4.3 and create a hotmail
address.(on www.hotmail.com) then send an e-mail to another address
(not a hotmail.com / live.com address) This to exclude that the
hardware I'm using is causing the issue.

Thx for the help in advance.

On 28 mrt, 17:49, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:


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lloydo  
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 More options Apr 5, 10:16 pm
From: lloydo <cortesg...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 19:16:41 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, Apr 5 2009 10:16 pm
Subject: Re: & Hotmail
Hello Kai,

You've developed a really great and secure distro. Thank you for all
your effort!

I volunteer to manage two free public Internet access machines running
Webconverger. Users have commented for several months about an issue
with Hotmail. As I didn't have a Hotmail account to test with (now I
do) I've only recently been able to confirm the issue exists.

As "dg2...@gmail.com" commented, Hotmail doesn't work properly with
Webconverger v4.3 and v4.2

I can confirm Hotmail also doesn't work with Webconverger v4.4, and
v4.1_mini.

I've tested these versions on a Compaq EVO D500 SFF 1.8GHz P4 with
628Mb RAM (same as the public access machines).

To determine if my hardware was an issue, I first tried using Hotmail
in the following 3 scenarios:
  ~ Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) GNOME 2.24.1 -- Firefox v3.0.8
  ~ Windows XP SP3 -- Firefox v2.0.0.20
  ~ Windows XP SP3 -- Internet Explorer v7.0.5730.13

Hotmail worked properly.

Then I tried Webconverger v4.4 and v4.1_mini on the same hardware.
Hotmail would not function properly.

I then ran the Webconverger versions on an HP Compaq NX6110 laptop,
just to check -- same Hotmail issues again.

My tests consisted of sending messages to and from my Hotmail and
Gmail accounts, to both accounts, for all of the scenarios listed
above. The only messages received were from the non-Webconverger
applications.

Using Webconverger, regardless of which format was used (Plain text,
RTF or HTML), the email's message pane text appears until the message
is sent, then doesn't even appear again in Hotmail's Sent mailbox. The
recipient receives the message body without any text. Only the Subject
line is received.

It seems as if Hotmail never ever receives any of the text typed into
the message pane of the Hotmail webpage.

The sender is probably not aware of this until a recipient mentions
it.

On any of of the above scenarios, and with any equipment, Gmail and
Yahoo Mail all work perfectly, and I've heard no complaints about any
other Webmail services not working. It's just Hotmail, and
unfortunately lots of people use it.

I'm mystified by the problem, and sure hope someone can shed some
light on it.

Thanks Kai.

Regards,

On Mar 28, 8:49 am, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:


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Kai Hendry  
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 More options Apr 6, 3:15 am
From: Kai Hendry <hen...@iki.fi>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 08:15:08 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 6 2009 3:15 am
Subject: Re: [webc] Re: & Hotmail

Ok I promise to look into it. Many thanks for verifying the problem.

Sent from a http://dabase.com/g1

On Apr 6, 2009 3:16 AM, "lloydo" <cortesg...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Kai,

You've developed a really great and secure distro. Thank you for all
your effort!

I volunteer to manage two free public Internet access machines running
Webconverger. Users have commented for several months about an issue
with Hotmail. As I didn't have a Hotmail account to test with (now I
do) I've only recently been able to confirm the issue exists.

As "dg2...@gmail.com" commented, Hotmail doesn't work properly with
Webconverger v4.3 and v4.2

I can confirm Hotmail also doesn't work with Webconverger v4.4, and
v4.1_mini.

I've tested these versions on a Compaq EVO D500 SFF 1.8GHz P4 with
628Mb RAM (same as the public access machines).

To determine if my hardware was an issue, I first tried using Hotmail
in the following 3 scenarios:
 ~ Ubuntu 8.10 (Intrepid) GNOME 2.24.1 -- Firefox v3.0.8
 ~ Windows XP SP3 -- Firefox v2.0.0.20
 ~ Windows XP SP3 -- Internet Explorer v7.0.5730.13

Hotmail worked properly.

Then I tried Webconverger v4.4 and v4.1_mini on the same hardware.
Hotmail would not function properly.

I then ran the Webconverger versions on an HP Compaq NX6110 laptop,
just to check -- same Hotmail issues again.

My tests consisted of sending messages to and from my Hotmail and
Gmail accounts, to both accounts, for all of the scenarios listed
above. The only messages received were from the non-Webconverger
applications.

Using Webconverger, regardless of which format was used (Plain text,
RTF or HTML), the email's message pane text appears until the message
is sent, then doesn't even appear again in Hotmail's Sent mailbox. The
recipient receives the message body without any text. Only the Subject
line is received.

It seems as if Hotmail never ever receives any of the text typed into
the message pane of the Hotmail webpage.

The sender is probably not aware of this until a recipient mentions
it.

On any of of the above scenarios, and with any equipment, Gmail and
Yahoo Mail all work perfectly, and I've heard no complaints about any
other Webmail services not working. It's just Hotmail, and
unfortunately lots of people use it.

I'm mystified by the problem, and sure hope someone can shed some
light on it.

Thanks Kai.

Regards,

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Kai Hendry  
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 More options Apr 6, 4:38 pm
From: Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:38:18 +0100
Local: Mon, Apr 6 2009 4:38 pm
Subject: Re: [webc] Re: & Hotmail
http://blogs.computerworld.com/hotmail_does_work_badly_with_linux

Looks like I need to set the UA string general.useragent.extra.firefox
to Firefox/2.0.

Hotmail seems to UA sniff which is a deplorable practice for Web sites. Grrr...


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Jamie Kitson  
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 More options Apr 6, 5:45 pm
From: Jamie Kitson <jamiekit...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, Apr 6 2009 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: & Hotmail
Hi,

yes the user agent affects hotmail, it worked fine with my default ua,
when I switched to ice weasel I no longer had any text in the body of
the emails I sent. You can see this in the sent folder.

Jamie


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Kai Hendry  
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 More options Apr 8, 4:24 pm
From: Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 21:24:47 +0100
Local: Wed, Apr 8 2009 4:24 pm
Subject: Re: [webc] Re: & Hotmail
Hey there Hotmail users,

Could you please test
http://build.webconverger.org/webconverger.2009-04-08.4.5-iso.iso to
see if I've solved the problem?

With thanks,


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Lloydo  
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 More options Apr 9, 5:10 pm
From: Lloydo <cortesg...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 14:10:24 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Apr 9 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: & Hotmail
Thanks Kai,

The Firefox/2.0 UA in the new build appears to have done the trick.
Hotmail works now.

Regards,

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