Hardware acceleration for flash video
edv-te...@marel.at
I miss hardware acceleration for flash video (stage video support).
This should be possible with VDPAU library. Is this feature scheduled
near future? Would be great if we can use your product as "standalone"
flash client.
BR, Mike
Kai Hendry
I would have included it earlier if I knew the name of the package. :)
x220:~$ curl -s
http://build.webconverger.org/webconverger.2012-01-21.packages | grep
nvidia
nvidia-vdpau-driver 195.36.31-6
Could folks with nvidia hardware please try
http://build.webconverger.org/webconverger.2012-01-21.iso and report
if it works?
Kind regards,
Kai Hendry
http://build.webconverger.org/
I want to do a new release with Linux 3.2, the improvements in the
Firefox extension (tab groups removed and proper download blocking!)
and hopefully the improved nvidia performance! :)
Many thanks,
edv-te...@marel.at
thank you for fast response! I tested both images (from 21th and 24th) and there's no effect about hardware acceleration with nvidia cards. At the moment it is a little tricky to add this feature to Flash player, because it seems Adobe doesn't support stage video on official releases. At Ubuntu I install Firefox Addon "Flash-aid". This allows to install latest beta (currently 11.2.202.183) of flash player and run some tweaks (/etc/adobe/mms.cfg) to add hardware acceleration. This works, but at fullscreen a wrong color space is set. This means red color is shown as blue and other way. So it's still beta development, but it even plays 1080p video with 20fps on a low CPU system (instead of 7 fps with CPU only).
Here are some links:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1856830
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplatformruntimes/flashplayer11-2/flashplayer11-2_p4_install_lin_32_011912.tar.gz
I will check further updates and let you know about it.
BR, Mike
Kai Hendry
> thank you for fast response! I tested both images (from 21th and 24th) and
> there's no effect about hardware acceleration with nvidia cards. At the
Drat. :/ Should I remove the nvidia-vdpau-driver then?
> and other way. So it's still beta development, but it even plays 1080p video
> with 20fps on a low CPU system (instead of 7 fps with CPU only).
> I will check further updates and let you know about it.
Please do. Though I'm kinda keen to ween people off Flash. Have you
experimented with 1080p and HTML5 video?
Have a play with http://m.vid.ly/ I think it helps convert between formats.
Kind regards,
edv-te...@marel.at
Drat. :/ Should I remove the nvidia-vdpau-driver then?
Please do. Though I'm kinda keen to ween people off Flash. Have you
experimented with 1080p and HTML5 video?
Have a play with http://m.vid.ly/ I think it helps convert between formats.
Kai Hendry
> I understand your statement. For our streaming solution flash is nearly
> perfect, because we can handle streaming byte for byte. With Adobe AIR it
> works on several operating systems too and - instead of HTML5 - one file
> format is needed only. I tried HTML5 video with Webconverger at Youtube.
> WebM codec is supported only and hardware acceleration doesn't work. Welcome
> to the codec jungle ;-)
I thought these two blogs lately were pretty interesting.
http://www.longtailvideo.com/html5/
http://hsivonen.iki.fi/webm-share/
It's a bit of a shame streaming and even blasted fullscreen isn't very
easy in HTML5 video. :/
Rok Škufca
1024x765, i need 1280x1024? I tested it on another pc with resolution
1366x768 but max resolution is not work.
Have you some idea what is wrong?
BR,
Rok
On Jan 21, 4:26 pm, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
>
> > I miss hardware acceleration for flash video (stage video support).
> > This should be possible with VDPAU library. Is this feature scheduled
> > near future? Would be great if we can use your product as "standalone"
> > flash client.
>
> I would have included it earlier if I knew the name of the package. :)
>
> nvidia
> nvidia-vdpau-driver 195.36.31-6
>
> Could folks with nvidia hardware please tryhttp://build.webconverger.org/webconverger.2012-01-21.isoand report
Rok Škufca
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
no idea how to solve problem.
BR, Rok
On Jan 26, 5:51 am, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
>
> > thank you for fast response! I tested both images (from 21th and 24th) and
> > there's no effect about hardware acceleration with nvidia cards. At the
>
> Drat. :/ Should I remove the nvidia-vdpau-driver then?
>
> > and other way. So it's still beta development, but it even plays 1080p video
> > with 20fps on a low CPU system (instead of 7 fps with CPU only).
> > I will check further updates and let you know about it.
>
> Please do. Though I'm kinda keen to ween people off Flash. Have you
> experimented with 1080p and HTML5 video?
>
> Kind regards,
Kai Hendry
> When i run xrandr --auto get this:
> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
> no idea how to solve problem.
Have you Googled about with "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for
output default"? There seems to be a few long threads.
I generally find if xrandr fails, it usually down to odd unsupported
hardware. :/
Rok Škufca
maybe i must manual configure xorg.conf?
Kai Hendry
> I test webconverger on pc with nvidia graphic, max resolution is only
> 1024x765, i need 1280x1024? I tested it on another pc with resolution
> 1366x768 but max resolution is not work.
> Have you some idea what is wrong?
Since I don't have nvidia hardware, this is pretty hard for me to figure out.
The Debian packaged nvidia-vdpau-driver didn't seem to help:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/webc-users/S8OUpjU5HaU/SAU6tIt1HWsJ
I think I need to figure out how the proprietary driver is packaged in
Ubuntu and think how to offer it in Webconverger:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
You could try installing Ubuntu packages in Debian... :)
Kind regards,
Rok Škufca
webconverger, but dont know why not working properly?
On Feb 1, 3:32 pm, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
> 2012/1/31 Rok Škufca <r...@skufca.net>:
>
> > I test webconverger on pc with nvidia graphic, max resolution is only
> > 1024x765, i need 1280x1024? I tested it on another pc with resolution
> > 1366x768 but max resolution is not work.
> > Have you some idea what is wrong?
>
> Since I don't have nvidia hardware, this is pretty hard for me to figure out.
>
Kai Hendry
> the driver must be Nouveau for nvidia, this driver is instaled in
> webconverger, but dont know why not working properly?
Can you inspect the logs? Compare them to Ubuntu's?
I did notice: http://www.unixmen.com/script-to-install-nividia-driver-in-debian-squeeze-with-one-click/
Rok Škufca
same problem.
maybe is problem in kernel 3.2, becouse the script not find package
nvidia-kernel-3.2, can you prepare one webconverger iso with kernel
2.6 and i test the nvidia script with kernel 2.6, and we will see what
will happen?
Rok Škufca
ubuntu have kernel 2.6.
i run the command "lshw -C video" and find the difference. on ubuntu
have information "driver:nouveau", on webconverger is without this
information, so i think that webconverger doesn't find the right
driver.
Kai Hendry
> i compare webconverger and ubuntu.
> ubuntu have kernel 2.6.
> i run the command "lshw -C video" and find the difference. on ubuntu
> have information "driver:nouveau", on webconverger is without this
> information, so i think that webconverger doesn't find the right
> driver.
Thanks Rok for taking the time to investigate this.
I've since added xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
https://github.com/Webconverger/Debian-Live-config/commit/66529f341f3d06d9479621944122bdcf5e14e9d1
Could you please test the latest daily and let us know if it worked
for you and your nvidia hardware?
http://build.webconverger.org/webconverger.2012-02-01.packages
Many thanks!
Rok Škufca
Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
No drivers available.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
On Feb 2, 4:43 am, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
> 2012/2/2 Rok Škufca <r...@skufca.net>:
>
> > i compare webconverger and ubuntu.
> > ubuntu have kernel 2.6.
> > i run the command "lshw -C video" and find the difference. on ubuntu
> > have information "driver:nouveau", on webconverger is without this
> > information, so i think that webconverger doesn't find the right
> > driver.
>
> Thanks Rok for taking the time to investigate this.
>
Rok Škufca
Using config file: "/etc/X11/xconf.org" is before
No drivers available.
Fatal server error:
no screens found
Rok Škufca
Using config file: "/etc/X11/xconf.org"
Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
Fatal server error:
no screens found
Using config file: "/etc/X11/xconf.org"
Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
[drm] failed to open device
Fatal server error:
no screens found
> before i forgot 1 line
>
> Using config file: "/etc/X11/xconf.org" is before
> Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> No drivers available.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
>
> On Feb 2, 9:37 am, Rok (c)kufca <r...@skufca.net> wrote:
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> > I test the latest build. the system not boot. here is the error:
> > Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
> > No drivers available.
>
> > Fatal server error:
> > no screens found
>
> > Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
>
> > On Feb 2, 4:43 am, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
>
Steve Robson
video driver (correctly called as "vmware" in your example). However,
you have to install it. It is part of a bundle that VMWare calls
"vmware-tools". The "vmware" driver then passes the video to the "real"
hardware. AFAIK, you can't use any other driver in a VMWare VM.
-Steve
Kai Hendry
Will check the daily in an hour or two to see if I've botched it.
Kai Hendry
The latest dailies include Iceweasel 10 which newly includes the
inspector which I might leave enabled. Since the Inspector remarkably
seems to play well within a tab, and unlike View Source, it doesn't
pop out a window. Very cool!
Rok (cool name btw), moving forward, since you have the nvidia
hardware. Could you please launch the latest daily in DEBUG mode and:
1) sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
2) sudo pkill X
And try to debug what's going on?
http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Installation
Kind regards,
Rok Škufca
sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is already the newest version.
kind regards,
Rok
Rok Škufca
i run comand sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
and then run sudo pkill X , then resolution work :). so i think the
nouveau driver is problem, it`s not compatible with nv driver?
Rok
Kai Hendry
> woho...:)
> i run comand sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
> and then run sudo pkill X , then resolution work :). so i think the
> nouveau driver is problem, it`s not compatible with nv driver?
Interesting. I feel like an idiot because I thought I was toggling the
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package by (un)mentioning in the
package-lists/webc.list.chroot, but it was there all the time. Doh.
x220:~$ curl -s http://download.webconverger.com/webc-11.0.txt | grep
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5
So the nv driver works a lot better for you? Is it fast for example
when you scroll a Webpage?
If you think it's better to remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, I can
add a hook, though it would be good to get a bug report on
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
To refer to. I'm trusting you here Rok. :)
Rok Škufca
resolution is ok.
but yes, when scroll webpage there i notice a litle litle delay, on
youtube flash works ok.
today i test on another PC with diference nvidia graphic and i will
report how it work.
BR,
Rok
On Feb 3, 7:07 am, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
> 2012/2/3 Rok Škufca <r...@skufca.net>:
>
> > woho...:)
> > i run comand sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
> > and then run sudo pkill X , then resolution work :). so i think the
> > nouveau driver is problem, it`s not compatible with nv driver?
>
> Interesting. I feel like an idiot because I thought I was toggling the
> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package by (un)mentioning in the
> package-lists/webc.list.chroot, but it was there all the time. Doh.
>
> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-5
>
> So the nv driver works a lot better for you? Is it fast for example
> when you scroll a Webpage?
>
> If you think it's better to remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, I can
Rok Škufca
i tested it on pc with graphic card NVIDIA Geforce GT 330M - 1GB of
ram. The resollution work ok, scolling the webpage work ok, when
shutdown or reboot machine, there show a white screen with black
lines, i mean that this happend becouse of nv driver - like something
is not ok with driver?
Tested with old nvidia graphic card with 64MB ram, resolution work ok,
scrolling webpage - there is maybe a litle litle delay in webpages
with a lot of pictures and information. when shutdown there show white
screen without black lines.
i`m not still persuaded that all work ok.
BR,
Rok
Rok Škufca
driver, and graphic resolution is not work.
The nvidia graphic in webconverger work well only with nv drivers
without nouveau.
BR,
Rok
On 3 feb., 14:21, Rok Škufca <r...@skufca.net> wrote:
> Hi Kai,
>
> i tested it on pc with graphic card NVIDIA Geforce GT 330M - 1GB of
> ram. The resollution work ok, scolling the webpage work ok, when
> shutdown or reboot machine, there show a white screen with black
> lines, i mean that this happend becouse of nv driver - like something
> is not ok with driver?
>
> Tested with old nvidia graphic card with 64MB ram, resolution work ok,
> scrolling webpage - there is maybe a litle litle delay in webpages
> with a lot of pictures and information. when shutdown there show white
> screen without black lines.
>
> i`m not still persuaded that all work ok.
>
> BR,
> Rok
>
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> > my feeling is that it works better without nouveau driver, the
> > resolution is ok.
> > but yes, when scroll webpage there i notice a litle litle delay, on
> > youtube flash works ok.
>
> > today i test on another PC with diference nvidia graphic and i will
> > report how it work.
>
> > BR,
> > Rok
>
> > On Feb 3, 7:07 am, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
>
Kai Hendry
> i`m not still persuaded that all work ok.
Hmmm, ok. On that note I will make a 11.2 release based on the current
state of the dailies. http://build.webconverger.org/
Probably on Monday morning.
A fellow named David wrote to me about a nvidia kernel hook for use in
Debian Live boot, which looks likely to solve this problem. I'll look
into integrating it next week.
Please be patient nvidia users!
Rok Škufca
On 4 feb., 12:48, Kai Hendry <hen...@webconverger.com> wrote:
> 2012/2/3 Rok Škufca <r...@skufca.net>:
>
> > i`m not still persuaded that all work ok.
>
> Hmmm, ok. On that note I will make a 11.2 release based on the current
Kai Hendry
> Ok. so we will testing it next week :)
Sure, though I would greatly appreciate testing of the dailies with
Firefox 10. :)
http://webconverger.org/testing/