Apache vs Cherokee vs all the rest

[David]

I recently setup a VPS host over at Santrex.net for testing web2py.
It took me about two shifts to get Cherokee installed and running with
Web2Py. What a pain. For those others that seemed to miss
"libcherokee-mod-libssl" that was a painful lesson that could have
been remarked elsewhere and saved a lot of time.

One of the things I noticed was that while working on the server that
sometimes I could get the HTML source output starting with a "0"
followed by the headers and then the page content. Ultimately this
would cause an error and the page would fail to load. I noticed this
happened about every 10th request or sooner depending on the speed at
which I was moving through the site.

Fed up with this problem, I decided to install Apache server and
configure a VirtualHost. This installation took about 20 minutes
including apt-get, ssl gen, and virtualhost setup etc. It also works
flawlessly even though it is a touch slower for what I am working on
right now.

Do any other people here use Cherokee? Is it worth my time to chase
down this page display problem? The only drawbacks for Apache with me
are the default memory configuration issues (it's a pig out of the box
on a vps and limited if your memory is limited) and that it happens to
be the slowest, as far as I can see, based on performance reports.
That being said it's still rock solid when it comes to working with
Web2Py.

[Thadeus Burgess]

I use apache on virtualhost at slicehost running multiple web2py virtualhosts.

With one web2py instance, my server stands at around 90MB average for memory, it *might* spike up to 115MB if I start some ram caching, however my reports have never reported anything higher. I am running apache with mod_wsgi. Also I havn't seen anything faster :) I would say it's a toss up between "Just Working" and "A couple more microseconds".

-Thadeus

[Graham Dumpleton]

On Nov 10, 3:10 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> I use apache on virtualhost at slicehost running multiple web2py
> virtualhosts.
>
> With one web2py instance, my server stands at around 90MB average for
> memory, it *might* spike up to 115MB if I start some ram caching, however my
> reports have never reported anything higher. I am running apache with
> mod_wsgi. Also I havn't seen anything faster :) I would say it's a toss up
> between "Just Working" and "A couple more microseconds".

The important thing is to use daemon mode of mod_wsgi on memory
constrained systems and not embedded mode. Although Apache is slower
at serving static files than nginx or Cherokee, if configured
correctly you wouldn't expect to see much difference for your actual
web2py application requests. This is because the underlying web server
isn't going to be the bottleneck. Instead the performance bottleneck
is going to be your web2py code and the database access.

FWIW, a good middle ground is to use nginx as front end to Apache/
mod_wsgi (daemon mode). The nginx server will serve static files and
proxy everything else to Apache. This gives benefit of fast static
file serving from nginx and nginx will also isolate Apache from slow
HTTP clients due to how nginx buffers request/responses. This means
that Apache is only bothered for absolute minimum time required to
handle request and thus can do more with less Apache processes/threads
and thus less memory.

Graham

[Alex Fanjul]

Hi Graham,
I have configured an Apache+web2py corretcly in VPS hosting, but I'd
like to give a try to Nginx (I tried to set it up but without success),
could you give us an example configuration of Nginx+Apache+web2py? My
Apache conf (now) its the typical one with the DaemonProcess,
ProcessGroup and ScriptAlias...

Thanks
Alex F


El 09/11/2009 22:58, Graham Dumpleton escribi�:

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[Graham Dumpleton]

Do a Google search for 'nginx Apache mod_wsgi proxy'. Various people
have documented it.

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