web2py organization - important for consultants !!!
mdipierro
These days I am getting a lot of private requests from people/
businesses who need consulting development jobs in web2py. This is
more than can I can handle. I need to keep track who is available and
who is capable so that I can refer those jobs to them.
Long ago we had discussions on the list about giving a more
professional facade to the group (at least some part of the group) so
that members could bid for larger contracts as if we were a business.
If you think about IBM it is not more than a collection of
consultants, exactly as are we. The difference is that in their case
the shareholders take a cut of the revenues of the consultants and
they have a legal status. We do not.
One proposed solution was to create a professional organization. We
discussed options.
I came up with this:
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http://www.experts4solutions.com
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I registered experts4solutions as an LLC to shield myself from
liability and give it a more professional legal status.
If you have contributed to web2py or have created a public web2py
application you are invited to join. By joining you are saying you are
willing to work on paid web2py projects and have your work reviewed
(by me and other members).
I will initially review and approve applications until we have a solid
core of members who can help draft better rules, improve the page,
offer more services.
The more members the more strict the admission rules will be since
they will be revised.
Let's be clear on this... there is no cost of joining and it does not
take any cut in your revenues when you are contacted directly by a
client. experts4solutions will provide additional optional services
also provided by me and other members. For example you may want to
take a contract but you or your client may wants to purchase code
review, and/or a long time support contract, and/or something you
cannot provide as an individual but we may be able to provide as a
group. You can be listed even if you have a company (actually it is
better if you have one and your company name will be listed too).
Eventually this may replace:
http://web2py.com/examples/default/support
The point of this is that I am impressed by the expertise I find on
this list. Some of the skills you have are hard to find. I want to
help you capitalize on it.
I love working with you guys. web2py is what today keeps us together
but web2py is a tool and one day (2100?) it will be replaced by a
better one. Yet there is a value in our group and perhaps it may
outlive web2py.
experts4solutions is not a discussion group and will not affect this
mailing list.
Massimo
Branko Vukelic
> http://www.experts4solutions.com
Nice!
> I love working with you guys. web2py is what today keeps us together
> but web2py is a tool and one day (2100?) it will be replaced by a
> better one.
Yes, it's called web3py. \(^o^)/
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Stefaan Himpe
> http://www.experts4solutions.com
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Looks very slick :)
There's a typo on http://www.experts4solutions.com/e4s/default/companies
(it says "conact" instead of "contact")
Best regards,
Stefaan.
Stefaan Himpe
But there's a second typo on
http://www.experts4solutions.com/e4s/default/guidelines
In the first sentence of the RAD section it says "but a belief" where I
expected something like "by a belief"...
Best regards,
Stefaan.
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Stefaan Himpe
faled prototypes can be minimized by
=> failed prototypes can be minimized [also remove the word "by"]
it is not as an alternative to executing the full project project. =>
[it mentions project twice at the end of the sentence]
mjor contributor => major contributor
Use Open Standards and Interoprability => Interoperability
Europen Union => European Union
Use Industry Standard Tehcnologies => Technologies
singificantrole => significant role
wise-spread => wide-spread
an hedge vs our competitors => an edge vs our competitors
crytical => critical
The framework we use was reviewed by the checked against the top 10 ... =>
[remove the "reviewed by"]
written by client =>
written by the client
We build software is portable and can un efficienly =>
We build software that is portable and can run efficiently
Best regards,
Stefaan.
Branko Vukelic
These guys are really good. :D
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mdipierro
Luther Goh Lu Feng
VP
mailing list.
sources for learning about web2py. I hope this new venture is not
diminishing future improvements of both of these.
Branko Vukelic
> I truly hope so. Currently, the book and this mailing list are two
> sources for learning about web2py. I hope this new venture is not
> diminishing future improvements of both of these.
Oh, that's just silly. I don't see how experts4solutions could affect
mailing list or book at all.
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GoldenTiger
I hope to soon make good contributions to web2py,
When I discovered web2py, I turned to learn, thanks to that I now work
as a freelancer creating websites in web2py, and I'm messing with the
risks of several different servers, and learning which are the most
typical problems.
As I learn web2py, every day I can think of more ideas than I can
finish, I started to write too many applications and completed web2py
few (I can not help get carried away by the excitement of a new idea:
D) I hope to publish soon, and web2py contribute to the project.
And web2py organization is a big personal motivation.
I wonder what are the most commonly requests you receive about web2py.
José Ignacio Hurtado
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Un saludo,
José Ignacio Hurtado López
Michele Comitini
GoldenTiger
experts", then anyone can be an expert?
Before appearing as expert, I want to make merit :)
On 11 nov, 22:21, José Ignacio Hurtado <jose.i.hurt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Sounds interesting.
>
> 2010/11/11 Branko Vukelic <bg.bra...@gmail.com>
>
>
> > On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, VP <vtp2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I truly hope so. Currently, the book and this mailing list are two
> > > sources for learning about web2py. I hope this new venture is not
> > > diminishing future improvements of both of these.
>
> > Oh, that's just silly. I don't see how experts4solutions could affect
> > mailing list or book at all.
>
> > --
> > Branko Vukelić
>
mdipierro
know the people who filled the form, so I approved them. You
specifically have been a contributing member of this community for
some time. I will not be so prompt and may need to be reminded.
For now I will handle approval. When we reach a critical mass and I
start seeing people I do not recognize, we can together create a more
formal process for approval.
Massimo
On Nov 11, 4:06 pm, GoldenTiger <goldenboy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did login atwww.experts4solutions.comand now I appears at "our
Paul Gerrard
duplicates with other peoples' comments - but what the heck. ---> is
my suggestion
...Our choice of technologies is motivated but a belief in Rapid
Application Development(RAD)
--->by
...application. The occurrence of faled prototypes
----->failed
... A system analyst should be endowed with decision
----->systems --->granted
... It may compromise on aestetic issues and
--->aesthetic
... evelopment, but, it is not as an
-->remove comma
... executing the full project project.
------->remove repeated 'project'.
... we dare to say so and start again.
----> add 'or withdraw from the
project'?
... The business model behind FOSS is that
---> define FOSS
Use Open Standards and Interoprability
... by the Europen Union in its European Interoperability Framework:
---->add a link to the standard?
Use Industry Standard Tehcnologies
---->Technologies
... and it plays a singificantrole in the
--->significant role
... therefore less wise-spread. This gives us an hedge vs our
competitors.
--->widespread --->edge over our
competitors.
... Portability is crytical to maximize
--->critical
... We build software is portable and can un efficienly on most
computing Clouds.
--->add 'that' --->run
... optimization may be specific of each individual cloud
technologies
-->to
A more general point: There's no mention of Agile approaches - surely
we need to include that?
Question: Do you register an interest by using the 'Contact Us' page?
It's not clear, I'm afraid. I'm interested!
Albert Abril
Kenneth Lundström
the disappearing lightbulb is if you reload the frontpage and scroll
down immediately, after a couple of seconds the page shakes like an
earthquake.
the Experts page looks a little bit odd, you have the texts Filter by
country and Where are we? but then lots of space so All our experts is
almost outside of window. Maybe the Google map could be visible all the
time and before you select a country all experts could be seen on the map.
If I select a country (in my case Finland) I get a Google map with the
world but nothing on it. Would it be bether to only have relevant
Countries in the dropdown list?
When I select an expert all other experts disappears and I have to go
back to find next expert. Could all experts Expertieses be shown in the
list with all experts.
The Projects page is empty, one thing I hate about websites is empty
pages, why have a link in the menu if the page is empty. Maybe remove
the Projects link until there is something. Or atleast write something
there.
Kenneth
Kenneth Lundström
I went through all experts but one experts Internal error
http://experts4solutions.com/e4s/default/expert/7
Internal error
Ticket issued: e4s/81.17.193.228.2010-11-12.13-29-46.5651ebc2-31b8-43df-94f0-44b48c2d4647Kenneth
Bruno Rocha
mdipierro
incorporated them all. Please check.
Branko is already at work for a better layout.
Massimo
mdipierro
Some people have not uploaded a profile. You must upload one.
About the picture. You must upload a picture of yourself in decent
quality. An orange does not qualify.
Massimo
Branko Vukelic
> quality. An orange does not qualify.
Unless you actually are an orange, obviously. :)
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Anthony
e4s will certainly have my moral support (maybe some casual
proofreading, too ;-).
For those of us not directly involved in e4s, I think it would still
be interesting to hear what's going on from time to time, so hopefully
there will be some occassional updates posted on the web2py list.
I like the idea of e4s eventually replacing the web2py.com Support
page. I think something like that would really set web2py apart (as if
it's not already distinctive enough).
OK, as promised, here's some proofreading -- on the Guidelines page,
"Tehcnologies" should be "Technologies" in "Use Industry Standard
Tehcnologies".
Godspeed.
Anthony
mdipierro
always know what is going on but I will report things that I know.
Massimo
Branko Vukelic
> The idea is that clients contact the members directly so I may not
> always know what is going on but I will report things that I know.
You could add a page where clients can submit their impression of how
the project went. That way you'll know what is going on.
Branko Vukelic
in mind that the profile image will be (brutally) rescaled to 100px x
100px using width and height CSS properties so I suggest you crop and
scale your profile images. If you need a hand with that, please send
me the image (privately) and I'll send you the appropriate scaled
image. (No sex-change, youthification, or similar Photoshopping,
please.)
Stefaan Himpe
Branko Vukelic
> Could it be that the corrected version is not online yet ?
It's not online yet. I've sent Massimo the last version minutes ago.
Stefaan Himpe
One remark though: on my screen the white "experts4solutions" logo (as
inlined in the text) is hard to read.
Best regards,
Stefaan.
Branko Vukelic
> Hello, thanks for designing a beautiful theme!
>
> One remark though: on my screen the white "experts4solutions" logo (as
> inlined in the text) is hard to read.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I'll think of a better solution.
Stefaan Himpe
> Could it be that the corrected version is not online yet ?
To be clear: I'm referring to the spelling corrected version.
Branko Vukelic
Oh that. Massimo gave me the application files before the spelling
corrections were implemented, so I think they will need to be
corrected again (along with any new mistakes I might have introduced
while editing the text).
rochacbruno
The expert name at the top should be capitalized.
http://www.experts4solutions.com/e4s/default/expert/2
Would be good to have a badge for linking this.
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Anthony
From: Branko Vukelic <bg.bra...@gmail.com>
Date: Nov 14, 5:44 pm
Subject: web2py organization - important for consultants !!!
To: web2py-users
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Stefaan Himpe
<stefaan.hi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello, thanks for designing a beautiful theme!
> One remark though: on my screen the white "experts4solutions" logo (as
> inlined in the text) is hard to read.
Yes, I'm aware of that. I'll think of a better solution.
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Branko Vukelic
> e4s should probably have its own favicon too (currently using the web2py
> favicon)...
Mental note to self:
* Capitalize names of experts in subheader area
* Make a favicon for e4s
* Go over typos again
That should cover it? 1AM here, so if you'll excuse me, I'm off to
bed. :) If you guys catch anything else, please add to this list.
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