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Dan Peterson  
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From: Dan Peterson <dpeter...@google.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:05:43 +1100
Local: Tues, Nov 10 2009 11:05 pm
Subject: Re: Google Wave Federation Protocol port open on WaveSandbox.com and Other Updates

Hey Aldon,

There have been several different efforts in the Drupal and wave space:

Drupal waves: How to add a Google Wave to a fresh Drupal installation.

   - http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=18009

Google Wave Drupal Integration: A Drupal module and corresponding robot that
enabled the embedding of Google Waves

   - http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=18013
   -
   http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2009/08/prototyping-drupal-module-f...

Drubot: A Robot for posting wave to a drupal site.

   - http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=36020

Cheers,
-Dan

On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Aldon Hynes <Aldon.Hy...@orient-lodge.com>wrote:

> As a quick response, the blog posts I've been writing and posting on
> http://www.orient-lodge.com are all in Drupal
> I'm using this server for hosting quite a few Drupal sites, as well as
> Elgg,
> Joomla, Laconi.ca, probably wordpress and who knows what else.

> It is the same site that I'm running my Openfire XMPP server and the Fedone
> server.

> Setting up FedOne on a server running Drupal is really no different than on
> any other server.

> I should also note that I'm running on a VPS server.  Setting up FedOne on
> a
> shared host probably just isn't possible, and would probably violate ToS
> for
> most shared hosting services.  I sure wouldn't want to try.

> I should also note that laconi.ca is written in PHP and makes extensive
> use
> of XMPP.  I'm pretty sure it uses XMPPHP.  I hope to do some
> laconi.ca/FedOne testing when my FedOne instance is a little more stable.

> As to connecting all of this to Drupal, my thoughts are that Drupal
> developers should be looking more at Google Gadgets than at Federated
> servers.  In particular, I think Drupal developers should be paying
> attention to Shindig and the Drupal Shindig shim as a means of working with
> gadgets, but that is just my thinking at this point.

> Has anyone on this list done anything interesting with Shindig, Gadgets,
> Drupal, or some combination of the three?

> Enough for now.

> Aldon

> -----Original Message-----
> From: wave-protocol@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:wave-protocol@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Kipp
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:33 PM
> To: Wave Protocol
> Subject: Re: Google Wave Federation Protocol port open on
> WaveSandbox.com and Other Updates

> For anyone who may be interested, I've written an article describing
> my thoughts, from the perspective of a Drupal developer, about this
> announcement of the opening of the federation port at WaveSandBox at
> http://sites.google.com/site/federationprototypeserver/.

> Ciao for now,

> Kipp

> On Nov 2, 1:18 pm, Dan Peterson <dpeter...@google.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone,

> > Just a little bit ago we opened the federation port for Google Wave's
> > developer instance, so we can all begin experimenting with federating
> waves
> > against WaveSandbox <http://wavesandbox.com/>.com
> <http://wavesandbox.com/>.
> > Since that is the developer preview instance, please keep in mind that it
> is
> > an experimental service, and it is likely that there will be unforeseen
> > glitches in the coming weeks. Please share your progress here in the
> > wave-protocol forum, so we can work through issues together.

> > Over the next several weeks we plan to add some important features to
> this
> > service:

> >    - TLS for XMPP:
> >       - The protocol itself specifies two distinct security mechanisms:
> >       delta signing and XMPP over TLS. Delta signing is required to be
> able to
> >       verify the authenticity of the source of the operations. TLS is an
> >       additional layer of security to the XMPP protocol, but it can be
> > a bit hairy
> >       to configure. In order to encourage prototyping, TLS is not enabled
> on
> >       WaveSandbox.com, but it will become required in the coming
> > weeks. This gives
> >       existing FedOne instances an opportunity to get signed certificates
> and
> >       configure their XMPP servers properly.
> >    - Reliable Delivery:
> >       - For any communication mechanism it is important that there is a
> >       contract for delivery of the message contents, and we are working
> on
> a
> >       reliable delivery mechanism from WaveSandbox.com.

> > With that said, to get started federating with WaveSandbox.com, you
> should
> > visit the wave-protocol project <http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/

> and
> > review the installation
> > instructions<http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/Installation>.
> > If you have previously installed and configured FedOne to talk to
> > other FedOne instances, you will need to upgrade to the latest revision
> > (revision 08b5eecb93) to properly interoperate with WaveSandbox.com. For
> > those of you building your own clients or servers, please take special
> care
> > to review the documentation that describes the

> errata<
> http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/DifferencesFromSpecificat
> ...>
> > between
> > the protocol specification and the current FedOne implementation between
> the
> > protocol specification and the current FedOne implementation, and
> > coincidentally, WaveSandbox.com.

> > If you don't have a WaveSandbox.com account, you may request a developer
> > account here <https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignupfordev/>.
> We
> > hope to provision those accounts within a week or so.

> > As you are developing, please keep in mind we welcome contributions to
> the
> > growing open source reference implementation; please check out this guide
> > on submitting open source
> > code<http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/wiki/SubmittingCode>
> > .

> > On the specification front, the Google Wave Conversation Model draft
> > specification has been revised and updated to include the blip document
> > schema, which defines the representation of rich text necessary for
> proper
> > interoperation with WaveSandbox.com. That document is available
> here:
> http://www.waveprotocol.org/draft-protocol-specs/wave-conversation-mode
> l

> > The updated specifications and FedOne code introduce new changes to the
> wave
> > model, but they aren't the last; we expect more changes to come as we
> > iterate with you on the implementation and learn from these early
> > experiments in federation. Once the specifications and reference code
> have
> > converged and become reasonably stable we will begin to federate
> > wave.google.com, until then we have a lot of work to do. Looking forward
> to
> > hearing your feedback.

> > Cheers,
> > -Dan


 
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