Stocks More likely to lose relative to how much you invest
steb
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From: "steb" <ste...@yahoo.com>
Newsgroups: seattle.business,pa.general,phl.politics,md.general
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: Stocks in US are Giant Gambling machines, Election Reform,
> PLEASE TELL OTHERS SEND THIS POST AROUND THE NET, Its based on truth and
> trying to protect people /We need election reform NOW tell others.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>> it use to be stocks were held for values, now they go down because they
>> can
>> usually the most or the more money you have in it. the more it goes down
>> or more likely it will go down. If these things are
>> not controlled then Humans don't breathe.
>>
>>
>> Supreme Court finds against investors. How surprising? This countries
>> needs
>> election reform now.The gov is now for and by big business, Oil
>> dependence,
>> big business allowed to steal from people, dependence on wrong things.
>> Rich
>> people allowed to make and interrpret the rules,
>> rippoffs based on how much you tinvest. The more you invest the more
>> chance
>> your stocks go opposite way. I had six stocks, the ones that my friends
>> invested the
>> most has tanked three times the market percentage almost and thats pretty
>> steeep. Great market segment, great recommendations and of course great
>> way
>> to take investors money cause it showed up.
>> Please pass this on to others from now on, remember the next time they
>> find
>> a good reason to take your money.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "steb" <ste...@yahoo.com>
>> Newsgroups:
>> misc.invest.stocks,alt.crme,alt.health,alabama.politics,fl.politics
>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:22 PM
>> Subject: Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate,
>> Values
>> ,
>> Spread
>>
>>
>>> Oil prices,Stock losses, Violence, Rich versus Poor, Hate, Values ,
>>> Spread
>>> of Nukes, Global Warming, Nutrition,Race and Religious Violence.
>>> Whats that say about this world when the country that is suppose to care
>>> most about doing the right things , the US, and freedom is now defauting
>>> to
>>> control and censureship and violence more rules for rich and big
>>> business?
>>> Do other places have it worse? Absolutely in fact the world is much more
>>> insane but that doesn't make what is
>>> happening here anybetter.The selling off of nuke secrets by the paks is
>>> inconceivable and this by a so called friend? This will utimately spell
>>> disaster for millions of people and the guy who did this is living in
>>> luxury.
>>> Please send this to all your relatives and friends ( even if they dont'
>>> talk
>>> to you anymore lol)
>>> My email: mcsantp...@yahoo.com
>>>
>>> I am going to try to shorten my post although its still going to be
>>> long.
>>> They talk about recession . You know how and when the recession will end
>>> ?
>>> When most people have lost and gotten out. you know why stocks tank
>>> fast
>>> after more people invest? To clean out your investment. Over and over
>>> the
>>> stock exchange is ascam allowed to happen by Congress who does little to
>>> take the human factor out of stock transactions but they can. The one
>>> area
>>> where automation would probably work they refuse to do it. Getting rid
>>> of
>>> market makers. We need election reform badly.
>>> When will markets go back up ? After you sell for loss When the most
>>> people get out, thats when the stocks will go
>>> back up, Bank on it. if you can that is, cause stocks are ponzi schemes.
>>> The more money you invest the MORE likely they take it opposite your
>>> investment. Day traders lost not because of 50/50 chance of loss its
>>> because they can go against your investment, take it down once money
>>> shows up and literally wait till you sell have brokers ready to tell
>>> you why , like changing conditions? You know whats the changing
>>> conditions? Your money shows up!!!!!
>>> I wonder why doing the right things often don't count anymore even in
>>> the
>>> US..Why around the world, people need to hate based on old stereotypes
>>> without rational compromise or determining who has what in terms of
>>> percentages of land and people or religion Because know that leaders
>>> and
>>> gov let bad things happen to keep control (Russia and China and Arab
>>> Govs)
>>> and democracy and freedom to diminsh. (US) I wonder why things go
>>> haywire and people need to cheat and lie in order to gain from people ,
>>> but thats not the least of problems. People are being killed in the US
>>> so
>>> help me God because of the ability of polluters to have a negative
>>> effect on people and not have tv news or government protect kids ,
>>> children and others most at risk, thats my asssertion.
>>> and over and over again its because leaders and governments refuse to do
>>> what is necessary to assure the common good of people.Even in bad times
>>> the
>>> rich do very well and control serves its purpose.In the US its often who
>>> is
>>> set up for pain pollution violence or loss in markets or Big business
>>> ripoffs in oil and
>>> credit
>>> cards etc.. Tell you some things that happen. Pollution causes my lungs
>>> constrict literally in so called moderate pollution.I have since seen
>>> its
>>> more then just my reaction, I have tested and seen the same conditions
>>> produce most asthma and respiratory diseases yet nothing is said,
>>> instead
>>> selling meds to you day and night You should see my black air filter
>>> also
>>> and you can if you look at the links at the end * I have to fear
>>> violence
>>> with over 400 murders a year in just one city. I have relatives shot and
>>> murdered by the way. Not much is done to counter it or talk about it
> I was charged with aphone by Sprint and have yet to get it or remedy the
> charges. With interest that has gone to 1200 charge and they can report
> that
> and lie and ruin my credit. How many bills and receipts do you need to
> save
> to prove your case after they put you on hold or talk to automated
> operators
> and still hang up on you laughing at times? I got a late feee of $39 from
> BP
> credit card sevice after they claim my payment came one day late. It was
> postdated days before they received it but still allowed to charge me and
> lie about it close to $40 dollars on top of the already incredible profits
> from the gas they have to make
> Why because they can,, they can afford to give you five percent in some
> charges if they can rip you like this. Then they have other protection
> service fees with contractors they let them bill and they can't take them
> off unless you complain for each one lol. Good luck with that.
> Another internet trading site offers you $100 to change to them.. You want
> to see how horrible the prices they give when they trade. As soon as you
> fill out the form to sell the price of stock rose sometimes up to 50cents
> and within seconds after I bought it was $50cents cheaper.Was it legal?
> Who
> knows and they say customer satisfaction? Heck no..They made more then
> 100
> dollars by giving you horrible prices.
>
>
>>> In the US my complaints center about the pain and violence coming about
>>> because people don't have jobs, because people who are our leaders
>>> ignore
>>> complaints, like illness from more and more pollution or more and more
>>> days
>>> without good air. , because the rules for the rich keep growing at the
>>> expense of doing what is right and the poor.Because more and more, you
>>> have
>>> to be rich to get elected to office or get a question answered about the
>>> cost of inflation or fear of violence or losses in the markets.
>>> Business
>>> is
>>> good when fair, its bad and contributes to recession when its
>>> unfair.Right
>>> now the rules to gouge consumers from utlities , our dependence on oil,
>>> and
>>> big business interest rates and their influence is not fair
>>>
>>> Now here are some of the consequences I see but can't fully prove.We
>>> will
>>> soon cease to be a democracy or republic with equal representation to
>>> all
>>> if
>>> we have not already lost all that.Here are some consequences.
>>> People who can't afford access are seldom heard complaining and are
>>> forgotten about even if they number in millions. People who can afford
>>> to
>>> complain but are the victims of these policies can be ignored because
>>> after
>>> all big companies can reach more people by paid access . Many people
>>> around
>>> me complain about limited access and censureship now from our local abc
>>> channel six website where the supposidly have message boards and from
>>> phillyblog where I routinely am censured. Yahoo use to have free message
>>> boards where you could see the meanspirited intention of people who
>>> don't
>>> trust , much of it misplaced towards hating all people equally for
>>> whatever
>>> reason. It was a place though at least to hear and show good reason to
>>> rationalize things if you could filter out the expressions of
>>> frustrations.Yahoo message boards which were national at least showed
>>> how
>>> frustrated real people are about everyday life. I at least try to show
>>> why
>>> I
>>> am . Its a real great mix if you can maintain greatness and freedom of
>>> all
>>> and everyone is given equal opportunity but its simply not happening
>>> anymore. >>>>> The most one can do is hope you can protect your family
>>> from more ways
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> seperate you and your money from Big business and oil . Each year the
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> business, credit card companies,stock brokerages and Market Makers
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Insiders and oil companies and utilities find more ways to rape
>>>>>> you,
>>>>>> without trying to sponser alternatives or fairer ways to act fast
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>>>>>>> This is what big business is now allowed to do to you because
>>>>>>>>>>> they can
>>>>>> and its not just one company. Sprint charged me for phone and time I
>>>>>> never used. Literally robbed me and reported to credit agency. I owe
>>>>>> 5000 for something I never received. When you complain you talk to a
>>>>>> machine that cant understand english or they put you on hold knowing
>>>>>> they don't know what to say to you cause so many complain about the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> things.. I
>>>>>> then after swearing all this happens ask people if they are
>>>>>> surprised,
>>>>>> they can then get away at poisoning you and not tell you enmass that
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pollution levels that constrict my breathing automatically at so
>>>>>> called
>>>>>> moderate or worse pollution levels is ok to ignore as long as you
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> want to move. Thats basically the argument is if you are having
>>>>>> breathing problems because you complain about quality of air, its not
>>>>>> whether the damages are real or rated f or not, its who can ignore
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> anyway or force you to move when you often don't even have a job
>>>>>> anyway
>>>>>> to pay for outrageous costs of fuel and housing anyway.Who said
>>>>>> making
>>>>>> sense or rational reasoning makes more sense then hate, ignorance and
>>>>>> control? It doesn't. We talk about manipulation of news and such
>>>>>> around
>>>>>> the world, but face it we are allowing almost the same consolidation
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the news stations in our country although like here on newsgroups I
>>>>>> still have the freedom to say things others don't. Even though Yahoo
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Philly blog and message boards on tv stations websites are now often
>>>>>> censured, I suppose technically speaking I can't claim we are not
>>>>>> totally censured in the US now as long as I have access to
>>>>>> newsgroups.Controlled yes, ignored by politicians yes, for big
>>>>>> business
>>>>>> and people who control? Yes, but not total censure ship.
>>
>> ----
>>
>>>> Once your money shows up in stocks or a horse in a race, especially
>>>> big
>>>> money the less chance your stock or gamble will win. . over and over
>>>> again
>>>> you will lose and believe me often they know why after of course you
>>>> lose.
>>>> Its like a factory where they try to rationalize your losss after you
>>>> already lost and they gained or right before. The streetcoms and market
>>>> gurus have quotes always ready about broker comments to justify the
>>>> loss.
>>>> Someone says the industry is tanking or crop is rising prices and thus
>>>> profit will suffer. Whats amazing these things like stocks tanking so
>>>> fast
>>>> in spite of terrific ratings for week after week prior to your
>>>> investment
>>>> tanking ...What makes the changing conditions happen where your
>>>> investment
>>>> loses so often? YOUR MONEY showing up ,, thats the golden rule in
>>>> horseracing or in stocks. once it shows up the big boys find ways to go
>>>> against your play.
>>> In fact I bet you, you will lose much more
>>>> then you will gain. Stocks have evolved.. to where your money shows up
>>>> its
>>>> played against.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I found the exact theory in horse racing too but like who cares right?
>>>> Look I try to explain in more detail below, but to be crude it all
>>>> comes
>>>> down to this: (stocks) They all go down relative to how many people
>>>> invested
>>>> and when. When the kitty ( pot) gets too saturated, its time to clean
>>>> out
>>>> the peoples investment no matter how good. sometimes its becauses
>>>> insiders
>>>> selling with good information and other times its because brokers know
>>>> something you don't but often they don't have to even have a
>>>> reason..they
>>>> say stocks move for no particular reason when they don't have to give a
>>>> reason Well don't believe it, believe this, once your big money shows
>>>> up
>>>> thats when the stocks start going opposite your play over and over
>>>> again
>>>> ..Thats the changing condition they talk about. This recent recession
>>>> where the nasdaq went down more in two weeks then in two years in the
>>>> up
>>>> market. Why because its easier to take your money faster then slower.
>>> This is not the first time the good stocks that were popular took a
>>> dive
>>> that way remember early 2000?
>>>>> coincidence when the markets tank they tank fast and take your money
>>>>> down
>>>> wih it Its no accident when they go up and write about
>>>> great movers, your stock is not the one they talk about you should
>>>> have
>>>> had. The stocks that skyrocket are always without your money in it just
>>>> under the radar. I guarantee your uncle was not in it either. Gosh I
>>>> just
>>>> missed playing that one! lol why is that?
>>>> Stocks are a bonafide ponzi scheme.. Why is that , because they can!
>>>> -----
>>
>>
>>> Pollution and global warming where people are being harmed and not told
>>> en
>>> mass. Why? Our dependence on dirty energy, diesel and oil and coal has
>>> harmed millions of people. People say its always been worse, but yes now
>>> we
>>> know more of the consequences and the changes while happening need to
>>> happen
>>> faster to reverse global warming and keep people from being harmed from
>>> pollution. News and tv of course can keep quiet about the damages in
>>> order
>>> to collect payment from drug companies and asthma and nebulizer
>>> medication
>>> companies instead of telling people why and if they are being harmed.
>>> Every
>>> day in this life I am made to breathe moderate or worse particulate
>>> pollution I have trouble breathing. I believe the only fact left that
>>> hasn't
>>> been proving conclusively is if MODERATE doesn't mean in reality
>>> harmful.
>>> I
>>> have trouble believing our government doesn't know of this damage and
>>> can't
>>> do more to stop it instead of making more rules for the companies that
>>> emit
>>> it to allow it to continue at least to the year 2020 or 2025 . Why do I
>>> have
>>> to then search for studies to show harm from pollution and be the only
>>> one
>>> to put some of the links together to show cause and effect. Are people
>>> going
>>> to see my links or believe me over their government or leaders? Of
>>> course
>>> not, yet that is what I am saying is happening . My air filter turns
>>> black
>>> in 29 days and this is what people who get moderate pollution face and
>>> of
>>> course even more ominous is also increasing illness much moret then
>>> people
>>> who get clean air too. My contention is and please remember this for
>>> your
>>> families, that people are being adversely harmed by breathing pollution
>>> the
>>> closer they live and work to polluted and congest streets, malls, bus
>>> depots
>>> and truck depots and in states and cities with few days of good air and
>>> or
>>> with most pollution compared to people with good air . There is a huge
>>> descrepency in health and lost savings that can be measured if they want
>>> to
>>> . One can though fill in the pieces with the links that I have from
>>> pollution damage, that more or less shows harm in areas that have been
>>> tested for pollution and its affects. Realize because of big business
>>> and
>>> our energy companies who are often very rich, and influential all this
>>> is
>>> not packaged together as being a major concern for danger from news and
>>> business. Please remember your city doesn't have to get the most
>>> pollution
>>> for you to be at risk because studies suggest and I am here to verify
>>> that,
>>> by just breathing moderate pollution can be harmful as in particulate
>>> pollution. Why this comparision of health based on pollution is not
>>> being
>>> done or compared is one way not to inform people of their probable harm
>>> from
>>> this. Yet the gov does put out the measurement of this pollution and
>>> other
>>> sites judge the quality of air in different places. Whats sad is even
>>> when
>>> one knows of the dangers some people can't afford to move , There are
>>> already tens of thousands homeless and basically thats the only way I
>>> could
>>> afford to move to clean air places. I will provide the links to some of
>>> the
>>> dangers after this.
>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>> . Business is good, if its fair, its horrible when Big
>>>>>> Business and people are allowed to honestly take advantage of
>>> people.There are many other differences between rich and poor that needs
>>> to be addressed.
>>>> . For ten years I tried to show how news and our epa is not
>>>>>> protecting people from harm from pollution, by at least showing the
>>>>>> links
>>> or asking for studies to show harm correlated to amounts of pollution
>>> people get. Or by comparing
>>> amounts of time people live and work near pollution or without clean air
>>>>>> .and then report about how much risk compared to others these living
>>>>>> and working conditions and exposure brings
>>> between polluted and non polluted population . Instead all the tv
>>> stations
>>> and major news has done is talk
>>> about global warming to some mild degree ignoring harm pollution
>>> brings.To
>>> see the links to damage ignored is like a lesson of ignoring the reasons
>>> for
>>> anything that makes sense. or that actually happened. The epa is simply
>>> not
>>> protecting people and even after being sued the leaders still default
>>> over
>>> and over again to allowing polluters more time to hurt people in
>>> different
>>> rulings that bypass protecting kids and babies and adults at risk. I
>>> claim
>>> there is more illness, more death , more money spent to treat
>>> conditions,
>>> more dependence on harm and less good sleeping less good learning and
>>> less
>>> productivity if measuring harm from pollution was really studied in
>>> detail.
>>> At the end you will see my links to pollution damage ignored by the news
>>> many times at the expense of those who can't move or are vulnerable
>>> with
>>> additional control allowing the news and tv stations to instead of
>>> telling
>>> people who are exposed, ,target advertise meds to treat the condition
>>> these
>>> people get after exposed and ignore the reasons why they get the
>>> condition.
>>> The incredible set up of hurting people and not protecting people
>>> because
>>> they can. is now a control and value system in the US.This somehow is
>>> good
>>> enough to produce jobs though.?
>>> If people were to see how seasons disappear practically in little less
>>> then
>>> 40 years is to see the damage global warming and possibly more pollution
>>> brings. They talk about one or two degrees swing in temperatures. In my
>>> area
>>> its produced seasons that use to get snow to seasons that seldom get
>>> snow.
>>> It produces averages that are often five or six degrees warmer and maybe
>>> even more harmful if the number of people who need asthma and
>>> respiratory
>>> drugs are factored into a study they dont' seem to want to do.
>>>
>>> >>> The big money from coal and utilities has made the changes slow
>>> because
>>> >>> any changes that doesn't immediately do much more to stop the
>>> pollution
>>> >>> harming people who get the greatest percent of days without clean
>>> air
>>> and
>>> >>> or greater amounts of polluted air isn't enough
>>> >>> Some places more affected
>>> >>> actually have less rules to follow in order to allow pollution of
>>> the
>>> air
>>> >>> and ocean to continue. You hear soo many studies about cancer or
>>> heart
>>> disease, rarely are
>>> >>> the studies based on pollution numbers although they could if they
>>> >>> wanted
>>> >>> to show harm.Yet they could . in more and more places the
>>> percentage
>>> of days without good air keeps growing .They don't often measure that
>>> stat,or the ramficiations But I did and its very harmful. Humans need
>>> good
>>> air to sustain good quality of life. instead many in policy say
>>> defaulting>> Now business in the US and stocks
>>>> Now (Stock
>>>> brokers and online trade investors often play against
>>>>>> your investment,,, finding every conceivable way to make sure once
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> on line
>>>>>> and trade stocks they will take your money. Its like
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> golden rule to them , and don't think they can't know your investment
>>>>>> history
>>>>>> or how likely or fast you will buy and sell ..All they are allowed
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> do is go against your play especially the more money you invest.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>> ulitmately means the more you now invest the more you now lose. .
>>>>>> Your
>>>>>> money
>>>>>> in or the most popular stocks pumped , the more chance they will find
>>>>>> reasons to short it or go long if you shorted it.. I honestly believe
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the stock market and horse racing is when the more investment
>>>>>> invested,
>>>>>> the more
>>>>>> people win when your play loses .. another wards more chances you
>>>>>> lose
>>>>>> based on how much you risked . Over and over again the investors
>>>>>> lose,
>>>>>> someone else gains. I am protesting is the unfair advantage
>>>>>> insiders
>>>>>> and market makers , maybe
>>>>>> brokerages have to leverage against your big money. Its like they
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> when it shows up often because the same people who bet against you
>>>>>> pump
>>>>>> the things they hope you invested in, so they can bet against you at
>>>>>> aMy
>>>>>> contention that stocks and other gambles are played against people
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> years
>>>>>> ago when relatives in college along with a professor worked out a
>>>>>> winning
>>>>>> strategy at the track. They followed the strategy for a year and were
>>>>>> fairly certain the system would work. It worked all the time fake
>>>>>> bets
>>>>>> ( on paper)
>>>>>> were placed. Once though the real money showed up. the horses and
>>>>>> plays
>>>>>> lost. That was the end of horse racing for them. Later as I invested
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> stocks, i saw basically the possibility that the same things
>>>>>> occurred.
>>>>>> Stocks that did good on paper, seldom matched that performance once
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> money showed up. The willful evolution of
>>>>>> trading stocks has matured to the point where playing against your
>>>>>> big
>>>>>> money is the goal of insiders and brokerages (fees for transactions
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> sure at least with them) and
>>>>>> market makers. Seriously REMEBER this ,it don't matter how good a
>>>>>> stock
>>>>>> is.. the people
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the market can find every conceivable reason to go opposite your play
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> they want to . and when reasoning fails they always have the excuse ,
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> said stocks are reasonable? Most of the time however they have
>>>>>> brokers
>>>>>> Quoted for explanations right while the stock tanks..Those links are
>>>>>> left at stock message boards for investors to ponder as why your
>>>>>> great
>>>>>> play has all of a sudden turned south. Broker says bla bla
>>>>>> .happened,
>>>>>> which is every possible reason changing conditions made your loss
>>>>>> inevitable I will tell you what made your loss REALLY The conditions
>>>>>> that made it lose... YOUR MONEY SHOWED UP and maybe others all long
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> short and that my friends are the changing conditions that allowed
>>>>>> insiders and brokers to go against your play and they can't lose..
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> must lose...Never put a stop order in , they almost certaintly will
>>>>>> take
>>>>>> it .
>>>> Take
>>>>>> going green. Sure some people did ok , but just as many lost allot ,
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> you invested in ethanol or biofuels even though its mandated. or
>>>>>> invested in defense industry or computer you probably lost. The
>>>>>> companies whose crop prices are used, are now said has gone up too
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> and demand is too low... . Whatever it takes to say whatever to
>>>>>> leverage
>>>>>> their money against yours is legal. This is my honest to Gods
>>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>> Can you make money ? I guess, I certainly have not and no one i know
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> . i don't know if this is how it use to be or its changes over the
>>>>>> years
>>>>>> but I am guessing its changed over the years. The only plays that win
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> the stock companies insiders
>>>>>> who know when to buy after you lose or get out and sometimes after
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> invest also and MM and I am guessing brokerages who are in it to pump
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> dump..and get commission fees.based on false so called market prices
>>>>>> or market prices that mysteriously are less or more then in real
>>>>>> time.
> .. How popular and great is your stock? The
>>>>>> more popular and the more money
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> put in the more reasons the people in the markets can bet against you
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> lose,.. the markets don't have to go down for you to lose, just
>>>>>> opposite
>>>>>> your positions!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> I suggest don't play the markets its a set up and I say it based on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> conclusions I le
>>>>>> Do you see the same news stories on tv?
>>>>>>> Do you see the same owners allowed to accumulate and consolidate tv
>>>>>>> ownership?
>>>>>>> Do you see our dependence on costly polluted energy and inflation?
>>>>>>> Do you see more violence in the US then many if not most countries
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> world?
>>>>>>> Do you see your stocks going up?
>>>>>>> Do you see kids bringing guns to school?
>>>>>>> Do you see 50 millions without health insurance
>>>>>>> Do you see millions without jobs ignored by news?
>>>> Do you see credit card companies and big business have a lock to ruin
>>>> your
>>>> credit and charge outrageous fees ? If they lie, how much time do you
>>>> have
>>>> to save every letter and transaction? And mark my words they will lie
>>>> to
>>>> collect and steal from you because they can. They will throw in charges
>>>> on
>>>> your bills and claim that was part of the game they call business , how
>>>> much time do you have to counter them?
>>>> Congress is now a group of people who basically make rules for the
>>>> rich
>>>> because
>>>> millionaires supported their wins in elections.
>>>, The stock
>>>>>>>>> market doesn't have to go down to prove its fixed it just usually
>>>>>>>>> goes
>>>>>>>>> opposite your big position.!!!! Thats all that it needs to do for
>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>> boys to capitalize over your investment and its legal too! .
>>>>>>>>> My email mcsantp...@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>> I got more mail from this then anything else I wrote.
>>>>>>>>> If you want real links to damage from pollution write me, this is
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> links
>>>>>>>>> to real studies .
>>>>>>>>> Now the fixing of the stock market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For ten years I did a survey on who gains and loses and who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> invested
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the stock market. Listen carefully.The stocks you buy in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually
>>> go down,
>>> especially if it allot of money you invested and you bought it to
>>> go up ( . But it can
>>> happen the reverse if you put allot of money on the short end.
>>>>>> Stocks go up after you get out. You end up saying I should have just
>>>>>> stayed.. Its always that way . but if you desire to get back don' be
>>>>>> surprised the stock stops going up again once your big money shows
>>>>>> up yet again.. If You do decide to catch a wave or hype or stock tip
>>>>>> chances are great your wave will break as soon as your big money
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> up.almost
>>>>>> guaranteed. Market makers just keep it down till you leave then bring
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> back up when your no
>>>>>> longer
>>>>>> in the stock .- Usually within a day or two with one big swing up (
>>>>>> usually when the least
>>>>>> amount of investors who just got out are not there). and you say to
>>>>>> yourself I should have just stayed in right? Who buys back so fast
>>>>>> after
>>>>>> you sell and make a loss Chances are its insiders or
>>>>>> stocks reserved for maket makers even brokers.
>>>>>> Then they can show the stock went up. and sell it back to
>>>>>> vulnerable at higher prices and only they make the profits.. and
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> start the process
>>>>>> over and over. Insiders and money market
>>>>>> peoplecapitalize and of course brokers like a big company I used
>>>>>> because
>>>>>>cause of commissions. I saw a stock in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time selling for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approx $11.68.. as soon as I go to sell form thAT price
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WITHIN
>>> SECONDS IT was $11.54,,
>>> dropped 13 cents in the five seconds it took to write out my
>>> sell order. after I sold the stock was selling for $11.68, again.seconds
>>> later
>>> Do I believe my sell order had resulted in worse then real time
>>> prices? OF COURSE this is normal for some people because they can
>>> get away with it, is it legal? Why should it be? . then I
>>> bought a stock in real time that was
>>> going for approx$ 44.39. I made
>>>>>> a buy order and within five seconds the price was$ 44. 80. Did I have
>>>>>> to
>>> buy ? no but I said to
>>> myself its remotely possible the market price is honest but as
>>> soon as I looked at real time
>>> after I bougght the price was $44: 38 again .. someone raised it
>>> close to fifty cents after I filled in the sell form ( just a
>>> coinciidence? LOL) and brought it down fifty cents seconds
>>> later. They can say I didn't have to buy but I can say is it
>>> legal to raise the price to whatever they can get after you fill
>>> out a market order/ maybe it is maybe its not, its surely not
>>> ethical!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ( coincidence again?) both trades within seconds.. this in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> addition to other ways to get your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money from big business.. Legal what? . Never ever
>>>>>>! They can keep your stock opposite the way you went
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> however long they want
>>>>>> and believe me they can make news to rationalize it too. Who fixes
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> like this?MM insiders? commission sellers? Your guess, its built
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> system. the investment sites will pump a play in one day and six
>>>>>> months
>>>>>> later talk how horrible the exact site they pumped a few months ago
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> this is really true.in order to take your hard earned dollars, its
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> ponzi scheme.
>>>>>> They say its because of changing conditions? Ha you know what causes
>>>>>> changing conditions? YOOUR MONEY showing up to be played against
>>>>>> Where
>>>>>> does
>>>>>> it say US stocks are all or nothing?The federal commerce agency
>>>>>> recent
>>>>>> decision ( I
>>>>>> think the exact name alludes me ftc? )that allows Tv station owners
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> increase the concentration of ownership almost assures fewer and
>>>>>> fewer
>>>>>> different owners, and different perspectives of freedom of diverse
>>>>>> viewpoints.
>>>>>> .. which will stifle the freedom of speech and different view
>>>>>> points.
>>>>>>> and truth..They often totally ignore the reality
>>>>>>>>..The stock that go
>>> go up the most ...all just happen to
>>>>>> fall beneath the
>>>>>> radar, and go up when no one you knew was in it...till someone says
>>>>>> something.like
>>>>>> .."TILL Wall Street
>>>>>> discovered it" . They say get in before Wall Street Discovers
>>>>>> it... Why woulda stock stop going up
>>>>>> when wall street discovers it? I thought the more investment the
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> likely to go up? OOPS Its seriously a giant ponzi scheme.? Of
>>>>>> course,
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> this is legal in the US as rich find more ways to rape people in the
>>>>>> US.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> pollution factor which kills people is ignored in this country.as
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> more links shows extra carbon dioxide and particulate pollution kill
>>>>>> people and harms people yet many children and adults are not
>>>>>> protected
>>>>>> from getting too much of this daily or informed of its dangers.
>>>>>> I have been saying that for years only recently has the links been
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> show studies of such things yet millions of people arestill not told
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> dangerous the places they live and work harms them.. They would
>>>>>> sooner
>>>>>> talk
>>>>>> about tummy tucks or depression in midwest then about real dangers
>>>>>> currently happening in their own backyard. yet media can get away
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> saw a study about depression in the Midwest. Our Kyw newsradio ran
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> story over and over again. Yet when I sent them a link to show here
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> city we are the most depressed. they ignored it? Thats the MOST
>>>>>> depressed
>>>>>> and most asthma,, totally ignored. Why because they can? and they
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> sell ads for health care instead. Suffice to say when i showed links
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> show harm here they ingored me as did the politicians.
>>>>>> They
>>>>>> can really sell meds easier if they ignore the damage that is going
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> here
>>>>>> or to not tell people why they need the meds. This is the meaness of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> power of the media and society values that filter down to people.
>>>>>> C O N T R O L and harm is more important then truth so help me god.
>>>>>> Face
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> jobs are expected from poor policies. that are allowed to go on. The
>>>>>> media
>>>>>> would rather stay mum about oil and coal and deisel pollution ,kill
>>>>>> their own population but then sell them
>>>
>>> nebulizers and asthma drugs all day and if some of you only knew
>>> pollution levels realitive to harm,
>>> , or percentage of days we don't get clean
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> air does to people you would know why ignorance is bliss and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not reporting things spells control of wrong values.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> you would know why they need to sell this all day to some of us and
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> tell you why you need these things and allow children and adults to
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> harmed at will and gov and industry know better. but do nothing
>>>>>> immediate
>>>>>> to save people most at risk. its shameful. Trust me its happening
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> certain areas., its the Gods truth. in the area.. People say
>>> write
>>> news stations or politiicans .. I Have almost zero answers from no
>>> responses.
>>> ya..Thats the mentality of leaders knowing your value to them. and thats
>>> the ,
>>> the meaness of society now. Where harming you can be ignored Of course
>>>>>> >> ..They often totally ignore the reality I
>>>>>> write bout here. The violence in society is often ignored in general
>>>>>> elections by politicians and national news and we have basically
>>>>>> come
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> expect over 189,000 shootings against our family members withoutdoing
>>>>>> anything different year after year. Whats amazing is the spin when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they say violence is down. Down 10 percent this year.. in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cities! and its still
>>>>>> more still then most of the world but thats not
>>>>>> even talked about ! Its amazing ! Why? Its a given 100,000 people
>>>>>> in the US
>>>>>> will be shot or killed each year, .30to 50 k will die from murder
>>>>>> or suicide Why should the people inpower care, they live in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in gated communities.. If its not happening to them,, they don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> care..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> basically only the rich get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected to office and rich keep consolidating and distancing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Only John McMCcain has talked about election
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reform.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oil, pharmacies, credit card and loan companis all
>>>>>> can't lose getting more rules to be able to take wealth from the
>>>>>> working class with outrageous fees that are allowed to keep
>>>>>> multiplying. I literally had a bill for something for 8 dollars go to
>>>>>>
>>>> 600dollars because they could .
>>>>Why well of course they can
>>>>>>>>> get your money fster that way!!! Make
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> mistake our kids think control is what motivates. Why do kids
>>>>>>>>> bully?
>>>>>>>>> Look
>>>>>>>>> around! Everything in the US is controlled based on how much money
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> or what you look like or how much power you can accumulate or the
>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>> mouse trap yu can make over others.
>>>>>>>>> The people without are totally ignored everyday.. treated like
>>>>>>>>> crap.....We
>>>>>>>>> are honestly slowly destroying ourselves. because the disparity
>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>> winners and losers and victims keeps increasing. If your a victim
>>>>>>>>> thats
>>>>>>>>> the price you
>>>>>>>>> pay by being ignored. and not represented by Gov. We need election
>>>>>>>>> reform badly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reporters would sooner ask question I want answered as the
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tooth
>>>>>>>>>>>> fairy.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea of
>>>>>>>>>>>> tv
>>>>>>>>>>>> and news
>>>>>>>>>>>> is to get cute
>>>>>>>>>>>> people to laugh all day and
>>>>>>>>>>>> talk about everything but the news like gossip talk shows and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>>>>>>> Springer type shows...They make their own questions and know
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>> watch and form conclusions based on what they tell you. . If
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> out of
>>>>>>>>>>>> state or another
>>>>>>>>>>>> country, know we are virtually not free anymore. Corporations
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>> oil
>>>>>>>>>>>> has taken our freedoms away.Our country is getting more mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> spirited,
>>>>>>>>>>>> WW
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrestling is becoming main stream,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wealth is not created equally. Our role models have left or are
>>>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>>>> drug enhancment pills, viagra or betting on their own games.
>>>>>>>>>>>> All I ever wanted was a job, good quality air without seeing
>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> love
>>>>>>>>>>>> and myself gasp for air or get disease thru policy I can't
>>>>>>>>>>>> control
>>>>>>>>>>>> or influence , and go to sleep
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> night without
>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying if my family members who I love dearly are going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> murdered.that night or the next day. our life is often but not
>>>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>>>> about decpetions and control. with no responses from
>>>>>>>>>>>> politicians.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Change might take place but its too slow and too late for many
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>> Seriously the next biggest concern I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> besides crime is
>>>>>>>>>>>> depression meds and how am I going to pay for health care and
>>>>>>>>>>>> transportation
>>>>>>>>>>>> costs.. Forget a job, no one responded to any job offers for
>>>>>>>>>>>> years..
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Phil says I need to go out and find a job.. oh ok... Right,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Go
>>>>>>>>>>>> outside see thousands of
>>>>>>>>>>>> people often poor people who look stunned. at bus stops.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thousands are in welfar line they never report on.
> They
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>> hope
>>>>>>>>>>>> for jobs. People in suburbia have no clue except when crime
>>>>>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>>>>>> close
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> them. We do virtually nothing to stop the progression of these
>>>>>>>>>>>> things.
>>>>>>>>>> People ask what can we do against crime? PLenty.. stop and frisk.
>>>>>>>>>> cameras,
>>>>>>>>>> teachers might teach about dysfunction in schools so parents and
>>>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> identify
>>>>>>>>>> danger before they are in jeopardy. Job Training! Do we empower
>>>>>>>>>> kids
>>>>>>>>>> to take back
>>>>>>>>>> control of their life in dysfunctional situations or do we let
>>>>>>>>>> gangs
>>>>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>> control for
>>>>>>>>>> them? Are social workers trained correctly? Are families
>>>>>>>>>> encouraged
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> stay together? .is it fair to give ex criminals jobs over people
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> need training and never did crime?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We should
>>>>>>>>>> literally tortue child and cop killers and put them away for
>>>>>>>>>> life. death penalty don't work. If I were to really describe real
>>>>>>>>>> deterrents most people would rather see the expectation of 30
>>>>>>>>>> thousand
>>>>>>>>>> kids and women and men murdered each year at least instead of
>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>> more to stop these criminals. Torture is when good people hear
>>>>>>>>>> horrible
>>>>>>>>>> stories how women and kids are murdered. It seems to keep going
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> word from politicians. The expectation of 40 thousand people
>>>>>>>>>> murdered
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> shooting
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of thousand s of people in the us every year goes on
>>>>>>>>>> inspite
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> advances in technology in every other area, Fbi is making a
>>>>>>>>>> database
>>>>>>>>>> for dna.. how about doing that at birth? .Not one idea to do
>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>> different!!!!!One of the top causes of death
>>>>>>>>>> for yg women is murder. Some people in cities fear losing their
>>>>>>>>>> health
>>>>>>>>>> paying for bread, being put down, and violent crime. and losing
>>>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>>> just for existing and the news media is pretty much ignoring all
>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>> Why because they can and many of these people just don't have
>>>>>>>>>> access
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> speak out.
>>>>>>> First of all we are country held hostage for oil and oil producers.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pledge alliance to oil , pollution and dependency on Arab
>>>>>>>>>>>>> production
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> pay more for it then everything In life and then we are bombed for
>>>>>>> it..Man Face it these countries we then give aid to have no
>>>>>>> obligation
>>>>>>> to fight for peace or freedom without hate..
>>>>> . when the same stations use the same stories over and over
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over at the same time and ignore others. you know its more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> coincidence. Their idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a story is Britney Spears and weather forecasts
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many people have families who look out for one thing, getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bye
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with enough food and health care,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without some drug induced nutcase killing or raping someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can you blame someone who sees the same things I see? Drugs or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> depression
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drugs are almost a necessity. There are more people taking
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deprression meds then in history.. Is the US based on doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things anymore or is it based on who can make the best mouse
>>>>>>>>>>>>> traps?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> we need to stop global warming now. we need rules where rich can't
>>>>>>>> keep
>>>>>>>> accumulating a greater percent of wealth at the expense of those
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> not.
>>>>>>>> Epas rating is not true or helping people adequately protect
>>>>>>>> families!
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> help me god.. Moderate particulate pollution harms a great deal
>>>>>>>> of people. This is simply another way to get people to accept the
>>>>>>>> damages
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> a modern society. Is there a God anymore. Do people actually care
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> helping people maximize their existence. Or are people paying with
>>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>> life for decisions they had no power about? First never smoke, I
>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> is one reason I am more sensitive to damages now . I am convinced
>>>>>>>> though,
>>>>>>>> the sensitivity I feel has led to me to now know what causes the
>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> damages from air conditions and pollution. I then went on to
>>>>>>>> examine
>>>>>>>> whatever studies were made to show damages from pollution and
>>>>>>>> where,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> completely UNSURPRISING I think there is great cause to show that
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> living and working in polluted conditions are not only losing their
>>>>>>>> health,
>>>>>>>> it could be proved its based on how much pollution and or how much
>>>>>>>> clean
>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>> they don't get , IN DIRECT Proportion when all things were compared
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> people who got good and bad air and ate the same things and had the
>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>> habits.
>>>>>>>> People are much more at risk simply living or working on streets
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> crowded traffic or near idling cars like fast food restaurants.I
>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>> anyway..
>>>>>>>> REMEMBER DON"T SMOKE EVER, .. and Its not how
>>>>>>>> good a company is its how much of your
>>>>>>>> money shows up in a stock and insiders and market makers allowed to
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> find reasons to bet against you and this is legal! unbelievable.
>>>>>>>> http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r31/mlarry51/?action=view¤t=filter2.jpg
>>>>>>>> need someone to listen to care, Our people are being murdered,
>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>> poisoned by coal and exhaust conditions without more being down.
>>>>>>>> How
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> know? My lungs constrict everyday in it and when I am not in that
>>>>>>>> type
>>>>>>>> of air I don't have
>>>>> constricted lungs.
>>>>> My air filters turn
>>>>> black in less then
>>>>> 30 days
>>>>> I >>> seriously have tried to do the best in my life and now I am
>>>>> thinking
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> were things I couldnt' get past and people are being unfairly not
>>>>>>>> protected
>>>>>>>> from refinery and industry pollution and auto exhausts and so many
>>>>>>>> days
>>>>>>>> without clean air.
>>>>>>>> Warmer temperatures where If you remember our past winters, this is
>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>> the twilightzone. so should we not complain when someone like me
>>>>>>>> sees
>>>>>>>> all this happening? Temperatures are often ten degrees warmer. We
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>> most depression and respiratory disease with commercials for
>>>>>>>> allergy
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> respiratory meds and inhalers without a news or big business
>>>>>>>> telling
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>> we need Our teams seldom win, American Idol was in
>>>>>>>> Philly
>>>>>>>> and someone with clean air in Oregon and California got the best
>>>>>>>> reviews.
>>>>>>>> Out of thousands of people , Philly people were not very good. The
>>>>>>>> negative
>>>>>>>> Philly people were showcased ( half were borderline or
>>>>>>>> schizophrenic
>>>>>>>> surprised@) .
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> and I say this with all seriousness, we were examined compared to
>>>>>>>> rest
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> people with clean air our health would show additionally how harmed
>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> been from this pollution both physically and mentally. . I
>>>>>>>> seriously
>>>>>>>> think we need
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> great lawyer to show how the most days without clean air, affected
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> people here. The most incredible poisoning that is allowed to
>>>>>>>> continue
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> years . Most days without good air. A very violent city , A very
>>>>>>>> depressed
>>>>>>>> city, more cancers and heart disease. Number one in asthma and
>>>>>>>> respiratory
>>>>>>>> disease and its all ignored. God help --\
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>> need to get lawyers to stop this pollution now and
>>>>>>>> stop the dirty coal now not in 2020, to change our percent of
>>>>>>>> gasoline,
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> innovate ways to immediate help kids not harm families.Please read
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071228/ap_on_re_us/aging_west
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as long as your sitting ducks for asthma and lung institutes and
>>>>>>>>> cancer
>>>>>>>>> hospitals and more and more hospital annexes and directly in path
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> coal
>>>>>>>>> pollution, oil refineries and concentrated exhausts with a city
>>>>>>>>> prettty
>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>> in denial about how to remedy it or to not even care about
>>>>>>>>> worsening
>>>>>>>>> traffic conditions to maybe improve
>>>>>>>>> things. I see the exact same things happeening here for coming ten
>>>>>>>>> years.
>>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>> You can bank on your kids getting more pollution, , more violence,
>>>>>>>>> (then
>>>>>>>>> average) kids not learning, and horrible health ratings and ads
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> target
>>>>>>>>> you from illness put upon you for no reason then because
>>>>>>>>> politicians
>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> happen.
>>>>>>>>> cares. Saw that guy Chitwood from homicide talk about murder or
>>>>>>>>> cab
>>>>>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>> ( another murder how surprising) the guy who is probably over 50
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> looks
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this is the link to air pollution and danger in exercising in it.
>>>>>>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=healthcheck&id=5653450
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070914/ap_on_sc/smog_study;_ylt=Aivfwa5A9fYk4.Q4F5tPYP2s0NUE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070918/hl_afp/ushealthvirusclimate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jul2007/clim-j19.shtml
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.megaportal.us/newsa/Avril.php?ArticleID=X3uu1Y3x2v1xG1Y1Z2k383e3
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=4935559
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> us life expectency falls to 42nd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2147617,00.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now heart disease worsens because of it.
>>>>>>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/heart_pollution_dc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pollution and heart disease
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ionizers.org/Heart-Disease.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> parituclate pollution dangers
>>>>>>>>> Ultra-fine particulate matter has been linked with premature
>>>>>>>>> death,
>>>>>>>>> cardiovascular disease and respiratory illness, according to the
>>>>>>>>> California
>>>>>>>>> Air Resources Board. Though it takes Americans an average of 25
>>>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> drive to work, according to 2005 U.S. Census Bureau figures, the
>>>>>>>>> board
>>>>>>>>> estimates that over 50% of a person's daily exposure to ultra-fine
>>>>>>>>> particles
>>>>>>>>> can occur during a commute.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Likewise, a 2005 study by researchers at the University of
>>>>>>>>> Southern
>>>>>>>>> California's Keck School of Medicine showed that long-term
>>>>>>>>> exposure
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> ambient particulate matter may contribute to atherosclerosis, the
>>>>>>>>> hardening
>>>>>>>>> and narrowing of the arteries.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Particle pollution kills people, whether they're breathing it in
>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> short period or day in and day out for a year," Nolen says. "It's
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>> being hit by a car, but it shortens the lives of people by months
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> years."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Even if you live in a city with low pollution levels, don't kid
>>>>>>>>> yourself;
>>>>>>>>> that doesn't necessarily mean your commute is healthy. A 2007
>>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Clean Air Task Force that investigated diesel exhaust levels
>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>> commutes
>>>>>>>>> in New York, Boston, Austin, Texas, and Columbus, Ohio, documented
>>>>>>>>> diesel
>>>>>>>>> particle levels four to eight times higher inside commuter cars,
>>>>>>>>> buses
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> trains than in those cities' ambient outdoor air.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The only commutes found to be low in diesel exposure were those on
>>>>>>>>> electric-powered subways and commuter trains, buses running on
>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>> fuels or retrofitted with diesel particulate filters, and in cars
>>>>>>>>> traveling
>>>>>>>>> with little truck traffic
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Exercising in polluted air causes harm
>>>>>>>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-rock-positano/exercising-outdoors-in-ma_b_66171.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DEATHS caused by pollution
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dying For a Change -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here's one small reason to join the save-the-environment cause:
>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> research indicates that some 40 percent of deaths worldwide are a
>>>>>>>>> direct effect of air, water, and soil pollution. Dirty air
>>>>>>>>> contributes
>>>>>>>>> to cancer and birth defects; unclean water accounts for 80 percent
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> all infectious diseases; and contaminated soil passes toxics to
>>>>>>>>> unwitting humans through direct contact or via food. According to
>>>>>>>>> researchers' review of data from more than 120 published papers,
>>>>>>>>> pollution combined with population growth contributes to
>>>>>>>>> malnourishment and disease susceptibility in 3.7 billion people,
>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>> about 57 percent of the world population. In 1950, when a mere 2.5
>>>>>>>>> billion humans roamed the earth, only 20 percent of the population
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> malnourished. Says lead researcher David Pimentel, "We have
>>>>>>>>> serious
>>>>>>>>> environmental resource problems of water, land, and energy, and
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> are now coming to bear on food production, malnutrition, and the
>>>>>>>>> incidence of diseases."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> straight to the source: Science Daily, 14 Aug 2007
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> straight to the source: The Ithaca Journal, Topher Sanders, 13 Aug
>>>>>>>>> 2007
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> assume people walk for a cure while not possibly realizing or
>>>>>>>>> caring
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> are doing more harm possibly by taking long walks and living in
>>>>>>>>> polluted
>>>>>>>>> air
>>>>>>>>> , or not worrying about their diet then worrying about a drugs
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> hospitals looking for a cure i. Maybe they don't need to give
>>>>>>>>> medical
>>>>>>>>> centers more money , because I can't think of a single drug that
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> reverse asthma or probably other cancers once they get it from the
>>>>>>>>> environment (if that can be proven). Since
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>> biggest differences in quality of health when everything else is
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>> like diet and bad habits is the differences between people who
>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> work in polluted air near coal and industry and refineries the
>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>> and those that don't. , People who wait in long traffic lines and
>>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>>> near
>>>>>>>>> crowded malls or work in heavy traffic are much much more prone ot
>>>>>>>>> lives
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> devastation from illness and yet they are rarely connected to the
>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>> levels and this is in fact on purpose. What I have seen in the
>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>> twenty
>>>>>>>>> years is babies crying more often , people who sleep less, people
>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>> more depression , asthma and respiratory illness often at exactly
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> fault
>>>>>>>>> of their own and politicians and newsmakers completely in together
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> ignoring the implications. The most incredible indifference to
>>>>>>>>> human
>>>>>>>>> suffering I have ever seen in my life. continues... so help me
>>>>>>>>> god.well
>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> if its a multiple choice of reasons. Face it some people were born
>>>>>>>>> too sensitive or different but I can't prove it. What I think I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> done
>>>>>>>>> greatly is alerted as many people as possible about the dangers of
>>>>>>>>> pollution
>>>>>>>>> (coal , transportation exhausts) , global warming and subsequent
>>>>>>>>> ill
>>>>>>>>> effects
>>>>>>>>> ignored for the most part by the people who have the ability to
>>>>>>>>> lessen
>>>>>>>>> them.. Whats that say about this world when the country that is
>>>>>>>>> suppose to care most about doing the right things and freedom is
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> defauting to control and censureship?
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