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Judy Miriga  
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 More options Nov 18 2012, 12:01 pm
From: Judy Miriga <jba...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 09:01:46 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Nov 18 2012 12:01 pm
Subject: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis

Folks,

The Coalition Government failed comply with the Reform Accord and equally
did not honor or value their Oath of Office as was required to deliver public
mandate; which is why the Coalition Government of Kenya must Shape up or
Ship out .......(their Term of Office is ending in December 31st 2012).......They
cannot be trusted and there is no reason why they should go on with the
campaign.........The Integrity Test must send them packing in order that they
should open room for a Transitional Caretaker Committee to Complete
Fundamental Essentials of Constitution Making.

It is the law that all people vying for Public Office must prove otherwise their
Responsibility and Integrity before they can be considered to stand for the
top position of Public Office leadership.

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com

--- On Sun, 11/18/12, Cosmos Omondi <cosmos.omo...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Cosmos Omondi <cosmos.omo...@gmail.com>
Subject: [PK] ANOTHER SAD BREAKING NEWS
To: "Progressive Kenyans" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 18, 2012, 9:02 AM

An explosive has been hurled in a Kariobangi bound Matau near St
Theresas Church. 5 dead according to the breaking news.

Cosmos Omondi

--- On Sun, 11/18/12, roz kahumbu <rozkah2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: roz kahumbu <rozkah2...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Baragoi murders
To: "wanakenya@googlegroups.com" <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, November 18, 2012, 12:57 AM

Kuria,

These are the ones who can't face the truth however many times they chant their mantras,,,Au Sio...and.... Peace , Love and Truth. Their 'sources' are all cocked up in their own heads and peddled to create confusion.

Pole OOO...with you in spirit.

roz

From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwa...@gmail.com>
To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: Baragoi murders

How could Omwenga even entertain such gossip which came from no govt but being spin by akina Jagem? You spit it a latrine once you hear they were not police. Does Omwenga ever watch TV or read papers? He amazes me.
On Nov 17, 2012 12:34 PM, "Okiya Omtatah Okoiti" <omta...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Jambo Samuel Omwenga:

Three of the dead policemen came from my home area, and one is missing. His body could even have been eaten up by hyenas. And the missing man is well in his 40s, which according police regulations on deployments is well beyond the age of being in such operations unless one is in senior command positions.

Omtatah

From: Samuel Omwenga <somwe...@gmail.com>
To: Progressive-Kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; KOL <kenyaonl...@yahoogroups.com>; Wanakenya <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 8:04 PM
Subject: Baragoi murders

There appears to be more to this Baragoi murders than we are led to believe. I spoke to a source who is a senior government official who seems to believe that this was a politically motivated killings and is also of the view these were not even police who were murdered. I also have been told the same thing by several other sources. Although I have been too busy to chase the story, I hope to do so in the coming days and fully blog about it.

Peace, Unity and Truth

Omwenga

--- On Sat, 11/17/12, Tebiti Oisaboke <tebit...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Tebiti Oisaboke <tebit...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Wananchi] Re: (VVM Forum) Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] RE: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis
To: "VuguVuguMashin...@yahoogroups.com" <VuguVuguMashin...@yahoogroups.com>
Cc: "Mwanyagetinge" <mwanyageti...@yahoogroups.com>, "mwamogusii Moderator" <mwamogu...@yahoogroups.com>, "Wananchi" <Wanan...@yahoogroups.com>, "Wanakenya" <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>, "Mwananchi Mwananchi" <mwanan...@yahoogroups.com>, "kiswah...@yahoogroups.com" <kiswah...@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 17, 2012, 11:28 PM

Oduor,

You right, I have also been told the same story. Actually, the same leaders who made lots of senseless noises about the deployment of the KDF to the affected areas are said to be the chief beneficiaries of these "looted" livestock. They use these ill conceived robbers to loot cows for them, ship them to the city, have them slaughtered and ship the "meats" to the Middle East. The proceeds are then sent to these master minders who use them for their political campaigns. We have a long way to go bro!! I have always complained about this man called Iteere because he is the most useless Police Commissioner Kenya has ever had. Even Ben Gethi was a little bit better even though he participated in the gruesome elimination of the late J.M. Kariuki. His lieutenants were never massacred in large numbers as we are seeing now. There are so many illegularities which have happened under this man's nose. He has never arrested and prosecuted any drug baron or powerful
 college student murderous from Mt. Kenya region who have been left to go scot free for a long time. We need a new Police IG and a new spay man to streamline our security organs. If the peace keepers such as the police officers are being massacred in such brutal ways, what about the common mwnanchi? Who should we turn to to protect us with our animals? Something needs to be done and the sooner it is, the better it will be for us. As we approach the end of year holidays, things will be even more worse than what we see now.

TOI

From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejod...@gmail.com>
To: africa-o...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: Progressive Kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; wanakenya@googlegroups.com; VVM Vuguvugu Mashinani <VuguVuguMashin...@yahoogroups.com>; Kiswahili <Kiswah...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:58 PM
Subject: (VVM Forum) Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] RE: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis

Simon,

Word on the street is that these cattle rustlers are not really neighbouring tribes. They are very sophisticated thieves from Nairobi who are even maybe sponsored by the law-enforcement personalities. They do their investigation and survey an area then they come with lorries/trucks to ship the animals. They deliver these animals to slaughterhouses in Dagoretti and other places.
This issue should be investigated thoroughly.

Courage

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Simon Okongo <sokongo2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Cyprian,
The massacres of 42 police officers need to be
looked and argued with sober mind. Do you know how painful it is to loose the
person who provides the daily bread to the family? At no place on earth, you
can kill a peace officer and get away. Recently, I saw police being killed at Mombasa by MRC;Tana Delta,Nairobi and now Baragoi! Sober Kenyans, how
many times are we going to sit and watch this show of crooks taking over the country?
We have few corrupt Police but this doesn't give one a permit to kill the peace
officer. There ought to be a tough law when one kills police officer
intentional.

1. The president should have taken
immediate action on the same day to send the police, GSU and even the army to
condone the area before the bandits finds the escape route to Ethiopia or Uganda. A week later! Probably the
real criminals will never be apprehended. This action could have minimized the
chances of harassing innocent people. Sending police now, will harass the
majority of people who had nothing to do with the killing.

2. The are so many loops when police
officers are encountering with danger before acting. I was watching police
officer narrating how their power has been taken away. By the way Police have
been restricted from shooting unless authorized by the inspector. Hullooooooo,
the criminal is not going to wait for the inspector to give orders.

3. Police commissioner must be given
power to act right away when his department is in danger. The safety of police
officers should be emphasized all the time. They're there to enforce and keep
peace. There will be meaningless to have police force if the criminals are
butchering our good guys. I would like our society to respect Police as the good
guys who can protect us but not to harm them.

3. The interest groups: Humans right groups and others, are making our society breakdown. When a police officer shoots regitimate criminal, they get accused of extra killing. When Mungiki was murdering innocent citizen, few raised the concern but when police started eliminiting them, majority including human right came out protesting. My friend was murdered by mungiki. Did they have more right to kill than Police? Hell no. Police are given mandate to keep peace in the country. This is one reason criminals have more rights to kill police.
I have hundreds of reasons to praise our
police but I will stop here.

Simon Okongo

--- On Sun, 11/18/12, Jonathan ekambi <jeka...@daystar.ac.ke> wrote:

From: Jonathan ekambi <jeka...@daystar.ac.ke>
Subject: Re: [PK] My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis
To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 18, 2012, 12:27 AM

I think Cyprian should join the intelligence and give advice from within. He is very right that the exercise is futile for now, but can't we allow the government to do their job without poking them now and again. For now, I think he is working for the stomach against those suffering.

Ekambi

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Cyprian O NYAMWAMU <orinao...@yahoo.com> wrote:

What are the army going to do in Samburu/Baragoi now? Rose, tell me what is the mission of the army? People have already fled their homesteads... the killers already ...

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Judy Miriga  
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 More options Nov 19 2012, 1:24 pm
From: Judy Miriga <jba...@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 10:24:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 19 2012 1:24 pm
Subject: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis

John Munyes, you are one of the bold leaders I give credit for coming out and
telling it like it is.........it is only the Truth which shall set us free......

What is Kibaki going to do with armed forces sent to Turkana??? To wipe them
all out....???....Is this the exercise meant to force people out of their homes by
force to pave way for investors....???

We want answers people and in solidarity, we will stick with the Turkanas to the end.
Let the law takes its course and together we must push for it so the Truth must be
exposed and the world to witness Real Time crime, violation and abuse against human rights live live..........
 
 
 

Be in the look out people......!!!

Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
 
 

Turkana MPs on Baragoi killings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omZjlPlH4EA
Published on Nov 15, 2012 by K24TV

Labour minister and Turkana South Member of Parliament John Munyes says the killing of over 40 security officers in Baragoi was an act of self defence. Munyes accompanied by Turkana South MP Josphat Nanok and their Turkana Central counterpart Ekwee Ethuro, claimed that Samburu warriors with the help of government troops had planned to surround their Manyattas and eliminate everyone.
 
 
 

The Baragoi Massacre Dilemma Thickens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--MSK64m7L8
Published on Nov 14, 2012 by kenyacitizentv

Could the Baragoi massacre have been politically instigated? And could the top command of the police force in Rift Valley have been arm-twisted by nominated MP Maison Leshomo to dispatch a security contingent to pursue armed cattle raiders, without adequate intelligence? The Turkana professionals association, led by lawyer Dr. Ekuru Aukot has warned the government against what it terms 'collective punishment' of the community, in pursuit of the cattle rustlers who killed over 30 police officers last Saturday. But as Francis Gachuri reports, the nominated MP has denied any wrong doing, and cautioned the Turkana professionals against politicizing the conflict.
 
 

Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:37:08 -0800
From: rozkah2...@yahoo.com
Subject: FRACAS JUJA RD
To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com; uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com; kenyaonl...@yahoogroups.com

Dennis Itumbi

ALERT: Riots in Juja Road eastleigh between somalis and non somalis. several people injured - I insist, Terrorists are just that terrorists, they have no community except that of terror

--- On Mon, 11/19/12, Paul Nyandoto <oderoga...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Paul Nyandoto <oderoga...@gmail.com>
Subject: IS IGNORANCE A SIN OR IS NOT KNOWING WHAT OTHERS KNOW IN SECRECY STUPIDITY??
To: "wanakenya" <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 11:29 AM

Guys:

People look almost everywhere for God to render help, healing etc. BUT do God help in all cases even when people do bomb themselves?.

These 2 events which have happened in our country kenya needs good and precise investigations. The 2 events do not add up and the explanation being given by authority is a disgrace to our intelligence.

EVENT no 1. Ordinary cattle rustlers gunning down well trained kenyan police force like jungle boys or herds men. This does not add up and not true.

Those kenyan police men`s death still needs proper explanation.

EVENT no. 2. Why would an Al shabaab sympathizer or radical plant a bomb in the mostly dense somalis area in Nairobi?. This one also does not add up. there are gnus in our country who are doing these things and want us to blame the innocents.

We kenyans can not keep on living with cheating, corruption and being constantly ruled by criminals which belong to the jails.

Kenyans do deserve better explanations on these 2 events. May be one is done to deviate people`s mind from the policemen`s deaths. You can call me names, but being a man of science I still strongly believe that the deaths of kenyan police men are not properly investigated. We are not even told which bullets killed them?. Did they kill each other with government bullets and that is why secretes are not yet released?. Or to be simple who killed them?. We know that ordinary cattle thieves did not do it. Kenyans also should demand to know which bomb killed people in nairobi yesterday(18.11.2012). Let them not tell us that Al shabaab has opened a battle field in Kenyan capital city.

Paul

--- On Mon, 11/19/12, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschu...@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschu...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] RE: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis
To: "uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com" <uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com>, "africa-o...@yahoogroups.com" <africa-o...@yahoogroups.com>, "rozkah2...@yahoo.com" <rozkah2...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "NVK-Mage...@yahoogroups.com" <NVK-Mage...@yahoogroups.com>, "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, November 19, 2012, 12:14 PM

Kimedero Fans Ooyeee, Ooooyeeeee!!!

Jee tukimfufua arudi atueleze ni nani atakayeongoza sasa, itakuaje?

Jagem

From: okello emmanuel <old...@yahoo.co.uk>
To: "uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com" <uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com>; "africa-o...@yahoogroups.com" <africa-o...@yahoogroups.com>; "rozkah2...@yahoo.com" <rozkah2...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "NVK-Mage...@yahoogroups.com" <NVK-Mage...@yahoogroups.com>; "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] RE: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis

Okongo ,
I hope you know that police officers too do kill innocent ppl.

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

From: roz kahumbu <rozkah2...@yahoo.com>;
To: uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com <uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com>; africa-o...@yahoogroups.com <africa-o...@yahoogroups.com>;
Cc: NVK-M MAGEUZI <NVK-Mage...@yahoogroups.com>; progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] RE: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis
Sent: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 4:27:29 AM

Wams,OOO,

Damn those 25 years...a whole quarter of a Century under a Dictator who messed with people's minds to the extent few still today know how to think for them-selves and choose what's right ....even in a crisis.

Heck ! Michuki went to soon!!

I'm 100% behind our Defense Forces doing a thorough job soonest....and cases of Treason in the courts before the month is out.

roz

From: margaret gichuki <Wams2...@gmail.com>
To: africa-o...@yahoogroups.com
Cc: uchunguzi online <uchunguzionl...@yahoogroups.com>; NVK-M MAGEUZI <NVK-Mage...@yahoogroups.com>; progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 6:05 AM
Subject: [uchunguzionline] Re: [africa-oped] Re: [PK] RE: My Position On the Baragoi/Suguta Massacre and security crisis

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap7nZaiADyM&feature=player_embedded#!

Folks,

Be afraid.Be very afraid.I'm with the GOK and Omtatah on this one.
They have to do what they have to to do.Hayo tu.

Anonymous Wams


 
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