I've been thinking that there isn't really a certification for web development, at least not in the FOSS side of things. (Maybe there is and I'm mistaken, if so, I'm sorry.)
I for one would love to follow a course that taught modules in (X)HTML, CSS, Javascript, Flash, PHP, MySQL, Ajax, Photoshop/ Fireworks, using FTP, basic operation of a Linux web server, etc. Each module should be examined and should get some sort of certification for those who passed.
Is anyone interested in discussing developing a course like this? I know that many employers would like to see that an applicant was certified up to a certain measurable standard in a certain field. I know it would make things easier for me if I was hiring PHP developers, or CSS developers, for example. At present the skill levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV varies greatly!
I think there would be funding out there if some people got together to create something like this. I think Microsoft has certification for ASP and stuff, so I think FOSS needs something like this if we want to attract people to follow FOSS technologies instead of Microsoft technologies.
One major problem I foresee is that the course would need to be constantly updated - none of these areas stand still, and are constantly changing.
But I think it would be a cool project, and although I am not a developer, I think I could contribute in helping to design the course outlines, and also with proof-reading and copywriting etc. If we do this really well, it will become a globally accessed standard certification, and will add to Sri Lanka's excellent FOSS reputation.
> I've been thinking that there isn't really a certification for web > development, at least not in the FOSS side of things. (Maybe there is > and I'm mistaken, if so, I'm sorry.)
> I for one would love to follow a course that taught modules in > (X)HTML, CSS, Javascript, Flash, PHP, MySQL, Ajax, Photoshop/ > Fireworks, using FTP, basic operation of a Linux web server, etc. Each > module should be examined and should get some sort of certification > for those who passed.
> Is anyone interested in discussing developing a course like this? I > know that many employers would like to see that an applicant was > certified up to a certain measurable standard in a certain field. I > know it would make things easier for me if I was hiring PHP > developers, or CSS developers, for example. At present the skill > levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV > varies greatly!
> I think there would be funding out there if some people got together > to create something like this. I think Microsoft has certification for > ASP and stuff, so I think FOSS needs something like this if we want to > attract people to follow FOSS technologies instead of Microsoft > technologies.
> One major problem I foresee is that the course would need to be > constantly updated - none of these areas stand still, and are > constantly changing.
> But I think it would be a cool project, and although I am not a > developer, I think I could contribute in helping to design the course > outlines, and also with proof-reading and copywriting etc. If we do > this really well, it will become a globally accessed standard > certification, and will add to Sri Lanka's excellent FOSS reputation.
I agree fully on this "At present the skill levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV varies greatly!"
This is mainly because of the easiness of PHP I think Since it is easy to start with PHP people just start and do things that seems big from outside But when the projects and requirements get complicated it demands more programming skills rather than PHP skills
Not a problem with the programmer or the language, just the way some people jump on to it
Hiran
On 2/22/07, Chamara Peiris <pei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've been thinking that there isn't really a certification for web > > development, at least not in the FOSS side of things. (Maybe there is > > and I'm mistaken, if so, I'm sorry.)
> > I for one would love to follow a course that taught modules in > > (X)HTML, CSS, Javascript, Flash, PHP, MySQL, Ajax, Photoshop/ > > Fireworks, using FTP, basic operation of a Linux web server, etc. Each > > module should be examined and should get some sort of certification > > for those who passed.
> > Is anyone interested in discussing developing a course like this? I > > know that many employers would like to see that an applicant was > > certified up to a certain measurable standard in a certain field. I > > know it would make things easier for me if I was hiring PHP > > developers, or CSS developers, for example. At present the skill > > levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV > > varies greatly!
> > I think there would be funding out there if some people got together > > to create something like this. I think Microsoft has certification for > > ASP and stuff, so I think FOSS needs something like this if we want to > > attract people to follow FOSS technologies instead of Microsoft > > technologies.
> > One major problem I foresee is that the course would need to be > > constantly updated - none of these areas stand still, and are > > constantly changing.
> > But I think it would be a cool project, and although I am not a > > developer, I think I could contribute in helping to design the course > > outlines, and also with proof-reading and copywriting etc. If we do > > this really well, it will become a globally accessed standard > > certification, and will add to Sri Lanka's excellent FOSS reputation.
Sounds like a good idea. I think php and mysql have certifications. Css and Javascript is a different story. We can keep things updated by maybe putting up a site like www.javablackbelt.com where the community can test themselves and contribute questions etc.
It would be also useful to have a listing of courses offered locally. A w3lk web site would help a great deal if we can set one up for these kind of things...
Dilantha
On Feb 22, 10:01 am, "Hiran Milinda" <hiranmili...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree fully on this > "At present the skill > levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV > varies greatly!"
> This is mainly because of the easiness of PHP I think > Since it is easy to start with PHP people just start and do things that > seems big from outside > But when the projects and requirements get complicated it demands more > programming skills rather than PHP skills
> Not a problem with the programmer or the language, just the way some people > jump on to it
> Hiran
> On 2/22/07, Chamara Peiris <pei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > This is a great idea. Let's discuss this. I think dilantha have some words > > about this.
> > > I've been thinking that there isn't really a certification for web > > > development, at least not in the FOSS side of things. (Maybe there is > > > and I'm mistaken, if so, I'm sorry.)
> > > I for one would love to follow a course that taught modules in > > > (X)HTML, CSS, Javascript, Flash, PHP, MySQL, Ajax, Photoshop/ > > > Fireworks, using FTP, basic operation of a Linux web server, etc. Each > > > module should be examined and should get some sort of certification > > > for those who passed.
> > > Is anyone interested in discussing developing a course like this? I > > > know that many employers would like to see that an applicant was > > > certified up to a certain measurable standard in a certain field. I > > > know it would make things easier for me if I was hiring PHP > > > developers, or CSS developers, for example. At present the skill > > > levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV > > > varies greatly!
> > > I think there would be funding out there if some people got together > > > to create something like this. I think Microsoft has certification for > > > ASP and stuff, so I think FOSS needs something like this if we want to > > > attract people to follow FOSS technologies instead of Microsoft > > > technologies.
> > > One major problem I foresee is that the course would need to be > > > constantly updated - none of these areas stand still, and are > > > constantly changing.
> > > But I think it would be a cool project, and although I am not a > > > developer, I think I could contribute in helping to design the course > > > outlines, and also with proof-reading and copywriting etc. If we do > > > this really well, it will become a globally accessed standard > > > certification, and will add to Sri Lanka's excellent FOSS reputation.
> Sounds like a good idea. I think php and mysql have certifications. > Css and Javascript is a different story. We can keep things updated by > maybe putting up a site likewww.javablackbelt.comwhere the > community can test themselves and contribute questions etc.
> It would be also useful to have a listing of courses offered locally. > A w3lk web site would help a great deal if we can set one up for these > kind of things...
> Dilantha
> On Feb 22, 10:01 am, "Hiran Milinda" <hiranmili...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I agree fully on this > > "At present the skill > > levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV > > varies greatly!"
> > This is mainly because of the easiness of PHP I think > > Since it is easy to start with PHP people just start and do things that > > seems big from outside > > But when the projects and requirements get complicated it demands more > > programming skills rather than PHP skills
> > Not a problem with the programmer or the language, just the way some people > > jump on to it
> > Hiran
> > On 2/22/07, Chamara Peiris <pei...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > This is a great idea. Let's discuss this. I think dilantha have some words > > > about this.
> > > > I've been thinking that there isn't really a certification for web > > > > development, at least not in the FOSS side of things. (Maybe there is > > > > and I'm mistaken, if so, I'm sorry.)
> > > > I for one would love to follow a course that taught modules in > > > > (X)HTML, CSS, Javascript, Flash, PHP, MySQL, Ajax, Photoshop/ > > > > Fireworks, using FTP, basic operation of a Linux web server, etc. Each > > > > module should be examined and should get some sort of certification > > > > for those who passed.
> > > > Is anyone interested in discussing developing a course like this? I > > > > know that many employers would like to see that an applicant was > > > > certified up to a certain measurable standard in a certain field. I > > > > know it would make things easier for me if I was hiring PHP > > > > developers, or CSS developers, for example. At present the skill > > > > levels of people who say they can do PHP or whatever on their CV > > > > varies greatly!
> > > > I think there would be funding out there if some people got together > > > > to create something like this. I think Microsoft has certification for > > > > ASP and stuff, so I think FOSS needs something like this if we want to > > > > attract people to follow FOSS technologies instead of Microsoft > > > > technologies.
> > > > One major problem I foresee is that the course would need to be > > > > constantly updated - none of these areas stand still, and are > > > > constantly changing.
> > > > But I think it would be a cool project, and although I am not a > > > > developer, I think I could contribute in helping to design the course > > > > outlines, and also with proof-reading and copywriting etc. If we do > > > > this really well, it will become a globally accessed standard > > > > certification, and will add to Sri Lanka's excellent FOSS reputation.
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