See my in-line comments == :
On Nov 1, 1:13 pm, Seabird <
seabir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In thinking about the threads and beads model, I was drawn to software
> that is used to model chemical compounds. If you squint at it just
> right you could view the Events as atoms within a complete molecular
> structure. If we one of the more complex -anes we can have a large
> number of beads and (perhaps) use the branches to represent different
> behavior after the firing of an event - essentially the different
> business effects.
== this is exactly the type of molecular model I had in mind when I
drew Fig 1. (on
http://groups.google.com/group/vpec-t/web/threads-beads-images).
One slight
== difference is that I see the 'Atoms' as Beads of Capabilities or
Services that are triggered by real-world events rather than events
themselves.
>
> In some of the examples that I have seen, the flow of goods through an
> express delivery system illustrats someof the needs.
>
> We clearly have a set of operational behaviors - picking up packages,
> loading, unloading, delivering, sorting,weighing,... We have an
> information stream that attempts too be a proxy for this - so someone
> not involved in the delivery "process" (stream of actual events) can
> get some knowledge about the package state/location. This is by
> definition a proxy, and will frequently be out of step with the
> reality. No matter it is as good as it gets.
== I agree. In example each "operational behavior" could be a Bead of
capability/service. So a "Picking Up Packages" Bead would have a
"Shipment Picked-Up"
== Event associated with it/recorded by it and a "Transport to Depot"
might have a "Delayed in Traffic" Event associated with it/but NOT
recorded by it. This way we == keep the Events separated from the
details of the activities carried out in a Bead and allow for both
internally generated 'My Bead' Events (e.g. Shipment Picked == up to
be handled the same as externally generated "Out there somewhere"
Events (e.g. Traffic delay) the same way.
== Fig 3. shows example Events as triangle shapes associated with two
Beads and how they might relate to Policies (certifcate graphic) and
Content (face/book
== graphic).
>
> Then we have the effect on "the money". Every event in the physical
> movement of a package incurs some cost. At various points in the event
> sequence (along the wire of physical movement), the financial systems
> may sit up and take notice. "Aha, we have discovered that the package
> has been picked up, let's recognize the revenue in financials".
> Followed swiftly by a ruling that says, "No we will recognize revenue
> when the item has been delivered." Major change in financials, almost
> none in operations. Imagine if operations had to wait for financials
> to say, "Hang on don't load the plane, I haven't finished pricing the
> item an recognizing revenue." That's just nuts!
== Nice build on the financials aspect!
>
> There is no doubt in my mind that we need to keep the threads focussed
> on their own scope and recognize that we need to move into other,
> asynchronous threads periodically.
== Yes, yes and yes!!
That isn't techie speak for we must
> have an ESB, it is business speak for ensuring that the organizations
> units with the appropriate authority can get what they need done and
> remove friction from each other.
== I like the 'remove friction' meme
So we only introduce "friction" or
> "brakes" into a thread when some business condition demands it. For
> example, "We have checked your credit and we aren't picking up any
> more from you until you pay your bill." That kind of feedback/
> capability is necessary to have, and becomes an integral part of the
> thread of delivering packages. It isn't just a financial thread that
> is kicked off independently.
== I think this resonates well with the VPEC-T experience of my
colleague (and member of this group) John Schelsinger
== = any thoughts John?