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Doram  
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From: Doram <DoramBaram...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:16:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Apr 1 2008 6:16 pm
Subject: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Quoted from the last FAQ page answer after following the "Virgle is
real." link:

"oh, all right. Fine. April Fool's. Ha, ha, ha. It isn't real. There.
Are you happy? Does it please you to drag us out of our lovely little
fantasy world, to crush all our hopes and dreams? Is that really what
you need to hear? Fine, you've heard it. Virgle isn't real.

Yet."

You know what? I personally believe that if Sir Richard Branson was
crazy/brilliant enough to really go out and start Virgin Galactic,
then he is certainly smart enough to join in with what was admittedly
an April Fools Day joke, just to feel out what the real public
sentiment on the subject is, so that he can see if a project like this
could find real support out there.

I know it's an April Fools Day joke, and I DON'T CARE! I want to talk
about it anyways, because I think it is a good idea, and I want to
tell that to the only rich person I know that has these interests.

Who's with me!!

We WANT Virgle!!!


 
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Lewis Nitzberg  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 6:18 pm
From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:18:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

*crickets* heh

--
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 6:32 pm
From: steLz <Stel...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:32:04 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Yeah I want Virgle. It's a sexy idea. I love Stargate Atlantis and I
like Eve Online and the thought of these being reality (sort of) turns
me on.


 
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M. Thyer  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 6:51 pm
From: "M. Thyer" <wonko.s...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:51:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
I certainly hope that someone with a big pile of money (such as
Branson or Google) is listening.  The joke starts to look like it was
made in bad taste if they're not.

There are several Mars analog projects that have been underway for
some time, testing and trying to make colonization of the red planet a
possibility for humanity's future (http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/
research/technology-onepagers/moonmars.html).  The technology exists
today, or so we're told, to get mankind to Mars and even to return him
to Earth (Buzz Aldrin, "Let's Go to Mars", Popular Mechanics, Dec
2005).  There are collections of scientists and engineers eager to
overcome the challenges that remain and entire nations who would
gladly become Martian if given the opportunity.  Millions of man-hours
annually are ready to be volunteered at the first inkling of a
project; dreamers are everywhere.  All that remains is for an
investment of time, money, and planning to make this Mankind's
greatest journey a reality.

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 More options Apr 1 2008, 6:58 pm
From: mysteriowallace <mysteriowall...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 15:58:35 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
I think that this is the best idea ever, with or without Google and
Virgin.  I also don't care if it's a joke.  For a very brief moment I
thought they were serious and it was a glorious moment.

DanW

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Lewis Nitzberg  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:01 pm
From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:01:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

yes, it would be, but so would a cure for cancer. And aids. Oh, and ending
world hunger would be cool. And wars too, they ain't that great.... so how
about we work on our own planet before we explore others? Think about it...
humanity is already going down hill... do we really need TWO humanities
going down hill?

Yeah, yeah, it's an april's fool joke, play along, but seriously, this is a
good point I'm making (at least I think so..)

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"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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From: steLz <Stel...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:10:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Maybe the cure for cancer and aids is on Mars.

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From: tacodomains <tacodoma...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:10:42 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
It's a cool idea any way :)

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Lewis Nitzberg  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:12 pm
From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:12:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

o it's an AWESOME idea, don't get me wrong; I've been dreaming of getting
off Earth since I was a wee lad heh
But eh... Mars is kinda far away... maybe a week in Hawaii will be just as
good

--
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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GirlfromNantucket  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:14 pm
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
I dont care either. It's a fun idea.

A lot like Asimov's Foundation series.

And it gave me something new to daydream about in work today :)


 
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:15 pm
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:15:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
I'm all for it, and I'm reasonably sure that someone is eying this
whole group and seriously analyzing the reactions. We either have
technologies or the roots of technologies to get something like this
done. Our scientists were planning trips to Bernard's Star in the
Sixties, and drew up schematics.

Curing cancer and AIDS would no doubt be a wonderful thing, increasing
the quality of life for many. Consider, however, that once eradicated,
there will be other things that crop up, things we didn't foresee.
SARS was a wonderful example. Nature always tries to thin the ranks
when we get too populous for our inhabited area.

World Hunger is something that can be remedied for a while, but as
populations increase it will become more and more of a problem. We
consume more and more, and eventually cannot be supported. We study
that in all kinds of animals. They adapt, and move elsewhere, or their
ranks get thinned to a point where the consumables can recoup and the
species can be supported once again.

Good luck ending war. The arguments for that are too numerous to
mention.

Think about it... humanity is heading down hill even faster than we
think. Do we really want all of our eggs in one basket?


 
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Lewis Nitzberg  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:16 pm
From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:16:09 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

Hehe yaaa.... I think i spent 90% of my day at work corresponding with
strangers on Vigile, 5% at a meeting, 2% at lunch, and the rest on this
project I have due...

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wrote:

> I dont care either. It's a fun idea.

> A lot like Asimov's Foundation series.

> And it gave me something new to daydream about in work today :)

--
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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Kei_Centillion  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:17 pm
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:17:19 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
I thought it was funny, especially the stuff here;

http://groups.google.com/group/virgle/browse_thread/thread/e234e61c85...

lol

Thought it was serious at first, seeing it on the google homepage.
Google has been doing crazy stuff lately lol

My favorite part:

There are four ultimate goals:

2) Gravity.  Good for keeping residents as residents.


 
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:18 pm
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Agreed. If we wait for everything to get resolved on this planet,
we'll never get to "Plan B." I would rather my grandchildren have some
options.

And I bet I could finally dunk the B-Ball in 1/3 gravity!


 
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:19 pm
From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:19:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

Good points, Tobias. it was just a thought I've had swirling around in my
head ever since I've started thinking about human colonization of other
planets.
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"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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Lewis Nitzberg  
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:20 pm
From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:20:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

Alright, you've both convinced me that it IS a good idea :P

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Freako <FunkAfil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed. If we wait for everything to get resolved on this planet,
> we'll never get to "Plan B." I would rather my grandchildren have some
> options.

> And I bet I could finally dunk the B-Ball in 1/3 gravity!

--
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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 More options Apr 1 2008, 7:25 pm
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:25:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
What would be even *more* fun is if the joke were on the people who
concluded it was an April Fool's Joke.

And it were actually real.


 
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Minalkra  
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:27:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Sure.  As soon as I saw the front page of Google, I knew it was an
April Fools joke.  But seriously, I don't care either.  It is an
excellent idea.  Give people an ALTERNATIVE and things around this
planet just MIGHT start to get better.  When there's an entire planet
out there not kowtowing to you, larger countries might just start
having to be, well, NICE before all their populations evaporate.  And
don't get me started on ecological disasters.  One small mountain-
sized chunk of space rock and we've hit the reset button for the
planet.  It's about TIME someone realized Mars was a very profitable,
if long term, investment.  Now, where's my Space Colonist Handbook?

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From: "Lewis Nitzberg" <lnitzb...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:29:23 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

Girlfrom, what if it's on a joke on people who think it's a joke on people
who concluded that it was a joke?
Or better yet, what if it's completely, 100% real? Like, no jokes involved.
Not on those who concluded it was a joke, not on those that think it's on a
joke on those people, and no on the people who think it's a joke on those
people who think it's a joke?

Yeah...

--
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"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Two problems:
1. The goal of working to colonize another world does not prevent us
from continuing to work on other problems
2. The "let's fix our problems here first" argument of "fixing our
problems on earth" first is made too often.
The idea is that we merely need to focus our collective will on
solving our issues, but it ignores the fact that there are few
examples of societies working together to solve Big Problems.
Many people today are disillusioned and don't believe we can solve
global problems like climate change, poverty, over-population, etc.

However, a project like colonizing another world would inspire people.
It would show that we really can do big things when working together.
It would create a generation of dreamers who believe anything is
possible and refuse to allow humanity to slide further downhill.

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Lewis Nitzberg  
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:36:06 -0700
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?

's cool hicks, I changed my mind. But good points nonetheless :)

--
"Would you tell me, please, which way I ought to go from here?"
"That depends a good deal on where you want to get to," said the Cat.
"I don't much care where--" said Alice.
"Then it doesn't matter which way you go," said the Cat.

 
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:36:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
And another thing!

"Does it please you to drag us out of our lovely little
fantasy world, to crush all our hopes and dreams? Is that really what
you need to hear? Fine, you've heard it. Virgle isn't real. "

Exactly who is crushing who's dreams?


 
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 16:40:47 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Wait, wait, wait,...this is a hoax??  It's all a big joke?  This means
they're NOT looking for a world-renowned expert in Guitar Hero II??
DAMN!!

...now what's my purpose in life?...

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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
Lewis, I'll meet you over on the weed thread ;)

 
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Subject: Re: Ok. It's April Fools. Who here doesn't care?
It would be cool if they did this...but it would take more capital
than they could likely raise.

 
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