I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
account.
This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use it for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more reliable than Boxcar.
> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
> account.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use it
for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
reliable than Boxcar.
On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
> Hello all,
> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
> account.
> Cheers,
> Grant
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Hi, I don't know how well the gmail app works. I've always used the built-in mail app with the phone and haven't needed anything else. If I ever have to manage anything with my gmail account, I use Safari and go to http://mail.google.com/mail/h for the basic layout of the page.
> Totally agree, Push 4.0 works great and very reliable.
> Do you know if the Gmail app works well with VO? Would you use it in place
> of the native iPhone app?
> Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
> This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
> notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use it
> for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
> reliable than Boxcar.
> On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
> This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
> notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use
> it for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
> reliable than Boxcar.
> On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
>> Cheers,
>> Grant
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Hi, since you replied to me, I assume the question was directed toward me. You know what they say about assuming, so in any case, I don't know since I don't use the app and I haven't found a need to since the mail app works just fine for me. I haven't looked at the actual gmail app description, so maybe you have control over labels and / or filters. Let me see now. I just looked it up and here's what it says you can do with the gmail app.
With the Gmail app, you can:
● Receive notifications for new messages
● Read your mail with threaded conversations
● Organize your mail by archiving, labeling, starring, deleting, and reporting spam
● Keep track of important messages with priority inbox
● Auto-complete contact names as you type
● Send and receive attachments
● Search through all your mail
So, my guess is the labels and star and spam capabilities are added when you use the gmail app. I might give it a go to see how Voice Over friendly it is. It doesn't mention the ability of multiple accounts and that would be a necessity for me because both my raulgallegos.com email accounts and my secondary domain accounts are gmail accounts since I use Google Apps.
> What would the gmail app do for me that I can't do with the mail app
> that is already on the phone?
> Kimber
> On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
>> This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
>> notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use
>> it for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
>> reliable than Boxcar.
>> On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant
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I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app over this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is not my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
-----Original Message----- From: Grant Hardy
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
Hello all,
I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
account.
Cheers,
Grant
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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Monica Jones
Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app over this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is not
my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
-----Original Message----- From: Grant Hardy
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
Hello all,
I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
account.
Cheers,
Grant
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Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you all know.
> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
> Cheers
> Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Monica Jones
> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get
> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app over
> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is not
> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Hardy
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
> Hello all,
> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
> account.
Hi Alex, the native mail app doesn't give you true push notifications
unless you set up an exchange account. But if you do do that, then you
lose some functionality. This is why people like to have another app
for true push notifications analogous to what you might get on a
Blackberry device.
Grant
On 7/10/12, Alex Stone <alexstone...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
> Cheers
> Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Monica Jones
> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get
> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app over
> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is
> not
> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Hardy
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
> Hello all,
> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
> account.
> Cheers,
> Grant
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Hi Raul, if you have Gmail set up as an IMAP account in the native
mail app, then you can archive/label/mark as spam simply by moving
messages into the appropriate folders such as Spam and Trash. If you
go into the settings for your mail account you can change the default
behaviour so that mail in the inbox is archived rather than deleted.
Then for those messages that you actually want to trash, simply move
them to the trash folder.
If you use an exchange account - which I don't recommend since there
is less functionality - you can still delete messages, which moves
them to All Mail.
Grant
On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
> Hi, since you replied to me, I assume the question was directed toward
> me. You know what they say about assuming, so in any case, I don't know
> since I don't use the app and I haven't found a need to since the mail
> app works just fine for me. I haven't looked at the actual gmail app
> description, so maybe you have control over labels and / or filters. Let
> me see now. I just looked it up and here's what it says you can do with
> the gmail app.
> With the Gmail app, you can:
> ● Receive notifications for new messages
> ● Read your mail with threaded conversations
> ● Organize your mail by archiving, labeling, starring, deleting, and
> reporting spam
> ● Keep track of important messages with priority inbox
> ● Auto-complete contact names as you type
> ● Send and receive attachments
> ● Search through all your mail
> So, my guess is the labels and star and spam capabilities are added when
> you use the gmail app. I might give it a go to see how Voice Over
> friendly it is. It doesn't mention the ability of multiple accounts and
> that would be a necessity for me because both my raulgallegos.com email
> accounts and my secondary domain accounts are gmail accounts since I use
> Google Apps.
> On 7/10/2012 1:46 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>> What would the gmail app do for me that I can't do with the mail app
>> that is already on the phone?
>> Kimber
>> On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
>>> This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
>>> notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use
>>> it for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
>>> reliable than Boxcar.
>>> On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>>> account.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Grant
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I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like the
Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like manager
labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the issue when
using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to type the message
doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I ended up turning
off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard keyboard on the
screen. This is that similar issue that I have experienced on webpages
using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other than that, things seem very
speech friendly with voiceover. Your action buttons for each message are at
the top of the screen instead of at the bottom like they are in the default
mail app. By default it will show you a delete button, archive button, and
more button. If you choose the more button, you can do things like reply,
Mark as spam, or added as a label. The way I personally use Gmail, it
doesn't require me to be on the website much to do things like marking
messages as spam, editing labels, or moving things to other folders. So I
probably will not be using this app for very much. I am dictating right
now, and I think what I meant by the last sentence is that the things that
I use Gmail for on the website, I can still do there without having to use
this app. For typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still
use the default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm gonna
> get it and see if there is any difference other than the ability to mark
> messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you all know.
>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Monica Jones
>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get
>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app over
>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is
>> not
>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Hardy
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
Hi Grant, I know all of this since that's how I have mine set up. I was just pointing out the differences between the mail app native to the iPhone and the gmail app since others were curious.
> Hi Raul, if you have Gmail set up as an IMAP account in the native
> mail app, then you can archive/label/mark as spam simply by moving
> messages into the appropriate folders such as Spam and Trash. If you
> go into the settings for your mail account you can change the default
> behaviour so that mail in the inbox is archived rather than deleted.
> Then for those messages that you actually want to trash, simply move
> them to the trash folder.
> If you use an exchange account - which I don't recommend since there
> is less functionality - you can still delete messages, which moves
> them to All Mail.
> Grant
> On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
>> Hi, since you replied to me, I assume the question was directed toward
>> me. You know what they say about assuming, so in any case, I don't know
>> since I don't use the app and I haven't found a need to since the mail
>> app works just fine for me. I haven't looked at the actual gmail app
>> description, so maybe you have control over labels and / or filters. Let
>> me see now. I just looked it up and here's what it says you can do with
>> the gmail app.
>> With the Gmail app, you can:
>> ● Receive notifications for new messages
>> ● Read your mail with threaded conversations
>> ● Organize your mail by archiving, labeling, starring, deleting, and
>> reporting spam
>> ● Keep track of important messages with priority inbox
>> ● Auto-complete contact names as you type
>> ● Send and receive attachments
>> ● Search through all your mail
>> So, my guess is the labels and star and spam capabilities are added when
>> you use the gmail app. I might give it a go to see how Voice Over
>> friendly it is. It doesn't mention the ability of multiple accounts and
>> that would be a necessity for me because both my raulgallegos.com email
>> accounts and my secondary domain accounts are gmail accounts since I use
>> Google Apps.
>> On 7/10/2012 1:46 PM, Kimber Gardner wrote:
>>> What would the gmail app do for me that I can't do with the mail app
>>> that is already on the phone?
>>> Kimber
>>> On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
>>>> This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
>>>> notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use
>>>> it for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
>>>> reliable than Boxcar.
>>>> On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>>>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>>>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>>>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>>>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>>>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>>>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>>>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>>>> account.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Grant
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I don't mean to be too controversial and it's hardly a big deal, but
do you know how PUSH 4.0 provides push functionality? I only ask
because the Ultimate Notifier app advertizes push functionality for
Gmail, and what it actually does is pulls Gmail's ATOM feed every
thirty seconds or so. Of course, that's a pretty darn fast
notification window, and it's super reliable. But in terms of "push
notifications" in the true sense of the word, I wouldn't say this
really fits with the definition.
You can find out what an app is doing by reviewing Gmail's "last
account activity" at the bottom of every Gmail page, including the
plain HTML version.
Grant
On 7/10/12, Rick Alfaro <rick.alf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Totally agree, Push 4.0 works great and very reliable.
> Do you know if the Gmail app works well with VO? Would you use it in place
> of the native iPhone app?
> Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 11:05 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
> This is great to know. Also, in case others are looking for true push
> notifications for gmail, you can get the Push 4.0 app for $4.99 and use it
> for various pushes like gmail, twitter, and Facebook. I find it more
> reliable than Boxcar.
> On 7/9/2012 3:11 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
>> Cheers,
>> Grant
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I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok. One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
> all know.
> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
> Cheers
> Alex
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf
> Of Monica Jones
> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get
> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
> app over
> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
> which is not
> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Grant Hardy
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
> Hello all,
> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
> such as
> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
> account.
What about the ability to sync contacts with Google Contacts? I use
Exchange just so I can synch my contacts with Google Contacts. If
another app did this for me, I'd probably stay away from Exchange.
> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>> all know.
>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Monica Jones
>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>> get
>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
>> app over
>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
>> which is not
>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Hardy
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this
>> topic has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>> super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>> entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>> Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>> such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>> seconds -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>> few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
Hi, honestly I think that if you are already using exchange for your gmail stuff like contact syncing, you are fine. No need for iTunes. What problems do you have with using exchange specifically?
> What about the ability to sync contacts with Google Contacts? I use
> Exchange just so I can synch my contacts with Google Contacts. If
> another app did this for me, I'd probably stay away from Exchange.
> On 10/07/12 15:58, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
>> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
>> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
>> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
>> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
>> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
>> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
>> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
>> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
>> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
>>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
>>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>>> all know.
>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Monica Jones
>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>>> get
>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
>>> app over
>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
>>> which is not
>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> Hello all,
>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this
>>> topic has
>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>>> super
>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>>> entirely
>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>>> Emails.
>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>>> such as
>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>>> seconds -
>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>>> few
>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>> account.
Hi Christopher, what you can do is set up both an IMAP and an Exchange
account, then in your Exchange account, turn off mail synchronization.
This is an option in the account settings for your exchange account.
So you'll have an exchange account syncing contacts, and a separate
IMAP account for mail. I hope this is clear, it sounds complicated but
this is the way my Google account is set up, and it works like a
charm!
Grant
On 7/10/12, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about the ability to sync contacts with Google Contacts? I use
> Exchange just so I can synch my contacts with Google Contacts. If
> another app did this for me, I'd probably stay away from Exchange.
> On 10/07/12 15:58, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
>> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
>> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
>> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
>> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
>> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
>> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
>> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
>> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
>> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
>>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
>>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>>> all know.
>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Monica Jones
>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>>> get
>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
>>> app over
>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
>>> which is not
>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> Hello all,
>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this
>>> topic has
>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>>> super
>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>>> entirely
>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>>> Emails.
>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>>> such as
>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>>> seconds -
>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>>> few
>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant
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AS long as we're comparing the mail and Gmail apps, is it possible to
apply multiple labels to a message in both apps? I mainly use Gmail on
a Windows computer and in a web browser. Most of my mail is setup to
have filters applied when new messages come in that fit certain
criteria, like from this list. However, occasionally I may want to
apply more than one label to a message. I don't think this can be done
in the native mail app, since hwen you move a message from the inbox
to a folder, you have applied a label to it. And it doesn't seem wise
to keep moving it from folder to folder just to apply several labels.
I've got a lot of messages in my Gmail system, mainly ones that are
archived, so having multiple labels is a good thing for me to stay
organized.
Regards,
Wayne
On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>> all know.
>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf
>> Of Monica Jones
>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>> get
>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
>> app over
>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
>> which is not
>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Hardy
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic
>> has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>> super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>> entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>> Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>> such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds
>> -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>> few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
>> Cheers,
>> Grant
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Hi Raul, unfortunately Exchange accounts come with a few bugs -
searching doesn't work, it's harder to check other folders, and you
can't put messages in specific folders properly. It's also not
possible as far as I am aware, to trash messages rather than archiving
them. This is the reason I opted for IMAP rather than exchange.
Grant
On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
> Hi, honestly I think that if you are already using exchange for your
> gmail stuff like contact syncing, you are fine. No need for iTunes. What
> problems do you have with using exchange specifically?
> On 7/10/2012 5:11 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> What about the ability to sync contacts with Google Contacts? I use
>> Exchange just so I can synch my contacts with Google Contacts. If
>> another app did this for me, I'd probably stay away from Exchange.
>> On 10/07/12 15:58, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
>>> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
>>> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
>>> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
>>> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
>>> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
>>> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
>>> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
>>> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
>>> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>>>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>>>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>>>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>>>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So
>>>> I
>>>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>>>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>>>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>>>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>>>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>>>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>>>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>>>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>>>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>>>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>>>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>>>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think
>>>> what
>>>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>>>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>>>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>>>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>>>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>>>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>>>> all know.
>>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Alex
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf
>>>> Of Monica Jones
>>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>>>> get
>>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the
>>>> Gmail
>>>> app over
>>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as
>>>> sarcastic
>>>> which is not
>>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this
>>>> topic has
>>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>>>> super
>>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>>>> entirely
>>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>>>> Emails.
>>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>>>> such as
>>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>>>> seconds -
>>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>>>> few
>>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>>> account.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Grant
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Good question, Wayne. As far as I am aware you could indeed move it to
multiple folders from an IMAP account, but it doesn't sound like a lot
of fun! I don't see why you couldn't apply multiple labels in the
native Gmail app, but haven't explored it enough to give an accurate
answer.
Grant
On 7/10/12, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> AS long as we're comparing the mail and Gmail apps, is it possible to
> apply multiple labels to a message in both apps? I mainly use Gmail on
> a Windows computer and in a web browser. Most of my mail is setup to
> have filters applied when new messages come in that fit certain
> criteria, like from this list. However, occasionally I may want to
> apply more than one label to a message. I don't think this can be done
> in the native mail app, since hwen you move a message from the inbox
> to a folder, you have applied a label to it. And it doesn't seem wise
> to keep moving it from folder to folder just to apply several labels.
> I've got a lot of messages in my Gmail system, mainly ones that are
> archived, so having multiple labels is a good thing for me to stay
> organized.
> Regards,
> Wayne
> On 7/10/12, Raul A. Gallegos <r...@raulgallegos.com> wrote:
>> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
>> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
>> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
>> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
>> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
>> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
>> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
>> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
>> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
>> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
>>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
>>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>>> all know.
>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>> On Behalf
>>> Of Monica Jones
>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>>> get
>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
>>> app over
>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
>>> which is not
>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> Hello all,
>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic
>>> has
>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>>> super
>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>>> entirely
>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>>> Emails.
>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>>> such as
>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>>> seconds
>>> -
>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>>> few
>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant
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For my part, I see that Exchange can be a bit sluggish when compared to
IMAP, e.g. I'll delete and move a bunch of messages on my phone, and if
I don't give it enough time to sync everything up, I'll still see some
messages when I check my email from my PC. I don't have this problem
when using IMAP. Of course, it could always be that I'm doing something
wrong or that I don't have something set correctly. I've also seen
references on this list, from Grant maybe?, on some limitations in
Exchange over IMAP. Plus, I figure, why involve another server if I
don't need to.
> Hi, honestly I think that if you are already using exchange for your
> gmail stuff like contact syncing, you are fine. No need for iTunes. What
> problems do you have with using exchange specifically?
> On 7/10/2012 5:11 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> What about the ability to sync contacts with Google Contacts? I use
>> Exchange just so I can synch my contacts with Google Contacts. If
>> another app did this for me, I'd probably stay away from Exchange.
>> On 10/07/12 15:58, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
>>> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
>>> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
>>> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
>>> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
>>> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
>>> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
>>> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
>>> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
>>> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>>>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>>>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>>>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>>>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times.
>>>> So I
>>>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>>>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>>>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>>>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>>>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>>>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>>>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>>>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>>>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>>>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>>>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>>>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think
>>>> what
>>>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>>>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>>>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>>>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>>>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>>>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>>>> all know.
>>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Alex
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf
>>>> Of Monica Jones
>>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>>>> get
>>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the
>>>> Gmail
>>>> app over
>>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as
>>>> sarcastic
>>>> which is not
>>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this
>>>> topic has
>>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>>>> super
>>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>>>> entirely
>>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>>>> Emails.
>>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>>>> such as
>>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>>>> seconds -
>>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>>>> few
>>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>>> account.
This makes perfect sense to me. Right now, I'm syncing everything in
IMAP and Exchange, so I have two sets of emails and calendars. I figured
I'd keep both around until I used them enough to know which ones I want
to keep. Thanks a lot for the advice!
> Hi Christopher, what you can do is set up both an IMAP and an Exchange
> account, then in your Exchange account, turn off mail synchronization.
> This is an option in the account settings for your exchange account.
> So you'll have an exchange account syncing contacts, and a separate
> IMAP account for mail. I hope this is clear, it sounds complicated but
> this is the way my Google account is set up, and it works like a
> charm!
> Grant
> On 7/10/12, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What about the ability to sync contacts with Google Contacts? I use
>> Exchange just so I can synch my contacts with Google Contacts. If
>> another app did this for me, I'd probably stay away from Exchange.
>> On 10/07/12 15:58, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> I feel like I'm weird for responding to my own messages, but that's ok.
>>> One thing which this app also do is push notifications when you receive
>>> new email. Of course, I think that's what got the thread discussion
>>> about it in the first place. It does that very well by letting me know
>>> when I have new messages in my inbox. However I don't know of a way to
>>> get alerts for other mailboxes other than inbox. I also don't see a way
>>> to add additional accounts. I may play with this a little more if I have
>>> time, but at least for me, this doesn't warrant replacing the usage of
>>> the native mail app which already does much on the iPhone.
>>> On 7/10/2012 4:35 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> I am writing this message using the Gmail app. It basically looks like
>>>> the Gmail webpage. As I suspected, it allows you to do things like
>>>> manager labels and tag messages as spam. However I am encountering the
>>>> issue when using a Bluetooth keyboard, that the edit field for me to
>>>> type the message doesn't allow me to use the keyboard at all times. So I
>>>> ended up turning off the keyboard and now I am just using the onboard
>>>> keyboard on the screen. This is that similar issue that I have
>>>> experienced on webpages using Safari when I try to fill in forms. Other
>>>> than that, things seem very speech friendly with voiceover. Your action
>>>> buttons for each message are at the top of the screen instead of at the
>>>> bottom like they are in the default mail app. By default it will show
>>>> you a delete button, archive button, and more button. If you choose the
>>>> more button, you can do things like reply, Mark as spam, or added as a
>>>> label. The way I personally use Gmail, it doesn't require me to be on
>>>> the website much to do things like marking messages as spam, editing
>>>> labels, or moving things to other folders. So I probably will not be
>>>> using this app for very much. I am dictating right now, and I think what
>>>> I meant by the last sentence is that the things that I use Gmail for on
>>>> the website, I can still do there without having to use this app. For
>>>> typical male reading, replying, and composing, I can still use the
>>>> default mail app which comes with the iPhone.
>>>> On Tuesday, July 10, 2012, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm
>>>> gonna get it and see if there is any difference other than the
>>>> ability to mark messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you
>>>> all know.
>>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Alex
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>>>> On Behalf
>>>> Of Monica Jones
>>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I
>>>> get
>>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail
>>>> app over
>>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic
>>>> which is not
>>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this
>>>> topic has
>>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a
>>>> super
>>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not
>>>> entirely
>>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new
>>>> Emails.
>>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past,
>>>> such as
>>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty
>>>> seconds -
>>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a
>>>> few
>>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>>> account.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Grant
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm gonna > get it and see if there is any difference other than the ability to mark > messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you all know.
> On 7/10/2012 4:00 PM, Alex Stone wrote:
>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>> Cheers
>> Alex
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf
>> Of Monica Jones
>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get
>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app over
>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is >> not
>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Grant Hardy
>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> Hello all,
>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>> account.
>> Cheers,
>> Grant
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Part of it, Fred, is honestly just taking the load off your phone and
its battery. If your phone has to check for mail, say, every fifteen
minutes, that's going to eat up a fair chunk of battery. Of course,
exchange works slightly differently; the exchange server actually
"calls" your phone if you will, so your phone doesn't have to "call"
the server every fifteen minutes or so. But there are some problems
with Gmail exchange and I'm also led to believe that this takes
slightly more battery life than true push notifications pushed to your
iPhone from an app.
For some business people they really do want to know the second they
receive an Email, but I think for most of us it's a balance between
fast checking of Email and taking that load off your battery.
Grant
On 7/10/12, Fred Olver <goodfo...@charter.net> wrote:
> Just curious, what is so important about a mail app having push
> notifications? Seems much adoo about nothing?
> Fred Olver
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos" <r...@raulgallegos.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>> Well, I figure it's free and you don't know until you try. So, I'm gonna
>> get it and see if there is any difference other than the ability to mark
>> messages as spam, or add stars to them and let you all know.
>> On 7/10/2012 4:00 PM, Alex Stone wrote:
>>> Monica, completely agree with you, seems pointless to me.
>>> Cheers
>>> Alex
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Monica Jones
>>> Sent: 10 July 2012 20:58
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> I have a Gmail account and use it in the regular E-mail app. I get
>>> notifications when the mail comes in. Why would I want the Gmail app
>>> over
>>> this? With the screen readers, this might come out as sarcastic which is
>>> not
>>> my intention. I really want to know, smiles.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Grant Hardy
>>> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 2:11 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Gmail app now has push notifications
>>> Hello all,
>>> I haven't been following this list a lot lately so if this topic has
>>> already been beaten to death, I apologize in advance - I did a super
>>> quick search of past postings and didn't see it!
>>> For all you Gmail users out there, the Gmail app, while not entirely
>>> accessible in certain respects, now has push alerts for new Emails.
>>> There have been a few alternatives that I've used in the past, such as
>>> the Ultimate Notifier app - which checks mail every thirty seconds -
>>> and setting up a Google Exchange account in Mail - which has a few
>>> bugs. Now, you can have true push notifications for your Gmail
>>> account.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant
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