Daily Build, VLC no longer will stream BBC4?x

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Peter Tesar

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May 13, 2013, 7:29:37 AM5/13/13
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Hello,

 

In V3x I could stream the BBC4 using:

  $ vlc http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx

 

In the daily build, I submit the same script and get  messages like:

 

 … main decoder error no suitable decoder module for fourcc ‘WMA2’

 VLC probably does not support this audio or video format

 Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this problem

 

 

Also mplayer will not stream this site.

  $ mplayer URL

 

Mplayer cannot connect to a socket, whatever that is.

 

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

Peter Tesar

 

Bill Taylor

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May 13, 2013, 7:56:38 AM5/13/13
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hi Peter.
I don't think vlc is part of vinux 4.0, as it was rewitten in Qt in the last year or so. and is not considered accessible ATM.

That said, while I get lots of errors in the terminal where I pasted your link,
Vlc is playing bbc4 quite well for me.

Bill

tOn 13/05/13 21:29, Peter Tesar wrote:
Hello,

In V3x I could stream the BBC4 using:

$ vlc http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx

In the daily build, I submit the same script and get messages like:

... main decoder error no suitable decoder module for fourcc 'WMA2'

Rob Whyte

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May 13, 2013, 7:58:41 AM5/13/13
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Hi,

This is not a problem with the Vinux daily builds so I am changing your
subject line.

Try for example:
<code>
vlc http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r3_aaclca.pls
</code>


it's quite a nice station really.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1774325

This is the first Google result I found.

This may not solve your problem Peter but it does indicate that it is
not a Vinux issue.

good luck

Thanks
Rob Whyte



On 13/05/13 21:29, Peter Tesar wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> In V3x I could stream the BBC4 using:
>
> $ vlc http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx
>
>
>
> In the daily build, I submit the same script and get messages like:
>
>
>
> � main decoder error no suitable decoder module for fourcc �WMA2�
>
> VLC probably does not support this audio or video format
>
> Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this problem
>
>
>
>
>
> Also mplayer will not stream this site.
>
> $ mplayer URL
>
>
>
> Mplayer cannot connect to a socket, whatever that is.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Peter Tesar
>
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B. Henry

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May 13, 2013, 1:45:35 PM5/13/13
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I'll try your url and see, but this wouldn't be a vinux issue. VLC is certainly not part of the CD images, no idea about the dvd version though.
Assuming you have the codecs required for .asx streams all I can suggest is that I have seen bbc stram urls not work at times, not all of them that is, but it seems that there's more than one alternative to some or probably all of them.
You may want to try
http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live_wmt/r4.asx
which is similar but different. This one I've used for some time now both in vinux3.x and 4.nightly builds with no issues. My bash alias that I use to start it uses mplayer, but I reckon it should work with vlc as well. Have you played other streams with .asx extensions?
If you send me the correct command/syntax
for vlc to stream asx urls I'll give it a try. There's no reason I can think of that the command or syntax would be different in vlc between one ubuntu/vinux release and another.
Actually, I just tried as you sent it, sorry about missing the $vlc before the url, and yours plays perfectly on this vinux4 installation, so you just caught the stream down, had a problem with your connection, or a gremlin infestation my friend.
Regards,
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On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:29:37AM -0400, Peter Tesar wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In V3x I could stream the BBC4 using:
>
> $ vlc http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx
>
> In the daily build, I submit the same script and get messages like:
>
> ... main decoder error no suitable decoder module for fourcc 'WMA2'
>
> VLC probably does not support this audio or video format
>
> Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this problem
>
> Also mplayer will not stream this site.
>
> $ mplayer URL
>
> Mplayer cannot connect to a socket, whatever that is.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Peter Tesar
>

B. Henry

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May 13, 2013, 1:54:05 PM5/13/13
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BTW: I also can play your url using mplayer, so perhaps you didn't install codecs packages after installing your Vinux4 daily build.
looking at your error this is the only logical conclusion. I'm assuming you've not tried and managed to stream other .asx urls.
If you have this is more interesting, but again; no issues here with either the url I sent in my first repy, nor yours in either mplayer or vlc using Vinux4 with latest updates on my netbook.
There are always errors as the stream loads as there are with other streams, but I'm seeing things like mismatching header and unknown object that are typical.
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Burt

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 07:29:37AM -0400, Peter Tesar wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In V3x I could stream the BBC4 using:
>
> $ vlc http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r4lw.asx
>
> In the daily build, I submit the same script and get messages like:
>
> ... main decoder error no suitable decoder module for fourcc 'WMA2'
>
> VLC probably does not support this audio or video format
>
> Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this problem
>
> Also mplayer will not stream this site.
>
> $ mplayer URL
>
> Mplayer cannot connect to a socket, whatever that is.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Peter Tesar
>

Peter Tesar

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May 13, 2013, 9:57:52 PM5/13/13
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I now know that this is not a Vinux problem. I thought that perhaps the V4 DVD version did not contain something.

I used the apt-get to install Vlc to both the CD and DVD versions.

The first URL, ending with .asx plays in V3 but not in V4.
The second URL, ending in .pls, does work in both the V3 and V4.

In the daily build, VLC will play music.mp3 and video.vob.

This tells me that the codecs must be installed.
I don't know anything about streaming nor do I know the difference between the two URLS. The endings: .asx and .pls might be significant.

Thanks again.

Peter Tesar

B. Henry

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May 14, 2013, 2:43:15 AM5/14/13
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I played two different .asx urls as indicated, and using v4.
YOu must not have installed the added codecs that are certainly required for this format in your Vinux4 installation.
There certainly is a difference between .asx, a microsoft encoding, one of the native formats for windows mdedia player, and .pls, the typical playlist format used by winamp and which is one way to handle mp3 streams I do believe.
.asx codec is a bit more "rare" especially in Linux, and generally a bit less used than the .pls format. Actually, .pls is usuallyl a file with an url inside it.
I can't remember for sure right now if .asx is just a file as well, but the one's I've seen seem to be, files with url and other info re the stream in them. I'm not saying that very well, but at any rate if you have the Vinux3 easy-install scripts on any of your machines just copy the packages from inside those to get all the codecs you need for just about everything on your machine. Also, when installing a media player, check and see what packages are recommended and suggested. If you've already installed codec packages, meta packages I guess they'd be called as they include more than one codec package in them, just save the recommended and suggested package names for later, and if you have something that won't play look and see if any of them might play it for you and install. I've really only had a couple of comflicts ever, and they may have only been for playing flash stuff.
If you don't have the package names available from the easy install script, write me back and I'll send them to you. It'd take me only a couple minutes to find, but it'd only take you a couple min.lol.
Anyway, you want to be able to play .asx streams just in case that's the only format available, which it sometimes is, (less and less so I think). Other times it's hard to find alternatives for some stream even if they exist, or one stream may be broken and another not...
H
tH, and let me know if you need those package names.
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Peter Tesar

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May 14, 2013, 9:52:45 PM5/14/13
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Hi,

�

I have solved the problem of getting the daily build with VLC to stream BBC radio 4.


I did it by changing the extension of .asx to .pls.

�

Peter Tesar

Bill Taylor

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May 14, 2013, 10:33:04 PM5/14/13
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Hi Peter,
        Glad you got it working!

I enjoyed listening to the link you sent in  your original post, using VLc. I have listened for about 4 hours over the last couple of days, it's clear , no interference, can even hear conversations going on in the background,away from the interviews.

I get plenty of errors in the terminal where I cut and pasted your link, but they get removed when I close it, and don't interfere with quality as far as I can tell.

Bill

On 15/05/13 11:52, Peter Tesar wrote:
Hi,

I have solved the problem of getting the daily build with VLC to stream BBC radio 4.


I did it by changing the extension of .asx to .pls.

Peter Tesar


B. Henry

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May 19, 2013, 12:33:41 PM5/19/13
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These errors occur with more streams than not in my experience, maybe should be named something other than errors as error is a scarey word..lol..
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