Announcing Vinux Mint Debian Edition 64bit

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Rob Whyte

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Apr 25, 2011, 7:53:52 PM4/25/11
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"I am pleased to announce that Vinux Mint Debian Edition Based on Linux
Mint Debian Edition 2011 is finally ready for beta testing.


It is currently available as a 64bit DVD version.

It has been a long time coming, but hopefully it will be worth the wait.

Highlights of VMDE

All commonly expected kfeatures we have come to be familiar with in
vinux 3X releases.
new 2.6.38 speakup enabled kernel
mint-menu and its cool features, available with left control super.
Located on top panel
Treditional single menu still on lower panel launched with alt F1.
Much more

known bugs:
Orca does not always start correctly, tends to need restarting once or
twice even before speaks correctly, ideas to fix required please.
speechd-up has trouble starting, claims something else is accessing
/dev/softsynth, does start but late.
Mint-feature, X does not cycle between tty7 and tty8 it will move up to
tty9 also.
Remastersys installer does not prompt for keyboard preference, therefore
users get the UK layout keyboard.
bash aliases do not seem to work, have not found reason yet.
speechd-up may still try to install speakup at some stage, a
speakup-dummy package is needed.

How to install:
A remastersys installer icon is on the desktop, each window presents one
option.
Pushing enter is usually sufficient instead of tabbing to OK.
Hard disk, swap, root partition, then home partition questions are asked.
Home can reside on root as well as can grub if this is a secondary OS.
Simple installer.

Please provide valuable feadback,
irc.blufudge.net
#vinux-mint
is open to questions or discussion.

This is my first public remastered dist.

Download links:
http://www.thefudge.net/vinux/vinux-mint-debian-edition-amd64.iso
MD5 sum
cbe43c6c70c14ea8437a2338050f5e95 vinux-mint-debian-edition-amd64.iso
http://www.thefudge.net/vinux/vinux-mint-debian-edition-amd64.iso.md5


Thank you and hope this suits peoples needs.
Rob Whyte
Fudge

Tony Sales

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Apr 26, 2011, 7:59:09 AM4/26/11
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Well done Rob, it is a massive effort to get a working iso together and release it - I will definitely give it a try once I have finished the article I am still working on.

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Rob Whyte

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Apr 28, 2011, 5:23:19 AM4/28/11
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Hi,
Have not had any response to this thread.
Are people a bit busy at this time of year?
Think perhaps the .bashrc files from Vinux did not copy over so that may
explain bash_aliases not working.
Luke suggested with the orca bug that maybe the accessibility profile is
not active.
Bill who is testing it reports strange grub2 and /home locations on install.
This needs further inspection with remastersys installer.

Would it be better to forward this onto support list?
Had hoped that being on the dev list we could iron out bugs and then if
passes Tonys approval can be uploaded to vinux-project.org.


Thanks
Rob

Tony Sales

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Apr 28, 2011, 8:08:56 AM4/28/11
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Sorry Rob, I am still tied up writing the article, and of course they have just released Natty - looks like i am going to be busy for the next few weeks/months... although I will definitely have a quick look at some point.

Storm Dragon

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Apr 28, 2011, 8:36:04 AM4/28/11
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Hi,
I am downloading the iso now. Hopefully I'll be able to try it later on today.
Thanks
Storm
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Storm Dragon

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Apr 28, 2011, 1:23:19 PM4/28/11
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Hi,
Booting into Debian. Hopefully I'll be back soon with my results.
Storm
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Storm Dragon

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Apr 28, 2011, 2:52:47 PM4/28/11
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Hi,
First of all, great job on this. It has the feel of Vinux, anyone who has used the official Vinux release should feel right at home in this one. I only ran from the live CD because I don't have an open computer to install it on at the moment.
I had to restart Orca a couple of times when it first loaded to get it talking. You had mensioned this bug, but in my case it took more than one restart to get it working. Eventually, after about 20 minutes or so of playing around it flaked out and would not come back. I didn't check the version number of orca but I am thinking it is a much older version than it should be. I tried to do orca -q to stop orca and got the opporation not permitted error that was fixed quite a long time ago. So, I would recommend upgrading orca to a more recent version for the final release.
I figured out why the .bash_aliases file isn't working. There is no ~/.bashrc file. Inside the .bashrc file is code to call the aliases from .bash_aliases. I am willing to bet you could just copy the .bashrc from Ubuntu over to the Debian release because they are so similar. If you did want to write it from scratch though the part that handles aliases goes like this:
# Alias definitions.
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.

if [ -f ~/.bash_aliases ]; then
    . ~/.bash_aliases
fi

This may also explain why some common commands and tab completion didn't work for me in terminal too. I think the .bashrc file handles them too.
I did find a /etc/bash.bashrc file but it said for it to be active it had to be sourced in /etc/profile. when I checked /etc/profile it was not in there. It would probably be best to the .bashrc on a user by user base so that users can make modifications if they want without effecting the whole system. Of course I think .bashrc overrides /etc/bash.bashrc, so either way would be ok. You could even use the local bash_aliases by changing the code to:
# Alias definitions.
# You may want to put all your additions into a separate file like
# ~/.bash_aliases, instead of adding them here directly.
# See /usr/share/doc/bash-doc/examples in the bash-doc package.

if [ -f $HOME/.bash_aliases ]; then
    . $HOME/.bash_aliases
fi
I haven't tested that code, but it should work. Of course, now that I think about it the ~ may work as well, so maybe try before making a perminent copy.
I think that was everything. I kept my DVD I made, and I think if I ever, heaven forbid, have to reinstall I may go with this. Is it a rolling release or one that upgrades every few months?
Thanks
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Rob Whyte

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Apr 28, 2011, 9:07:08 PM4/28/11
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Thanks Storm,
valuable feadback.
The orca version is quite recent.
orca 2.3.1.1
But I will look to see that the vinux orca script is in place as it
should be.
Thank you so much for taking a look.

Rob

Rob Whyte

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May 18, 2011, 2:46:58 AM5/18/11
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Hi,
has anybody other than Storm and Bill-T looked at this?

cheers

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I did - is this the e-mail you wanted me to resend?
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