Only eight members?

[Eric Weir]

Are there really only eight members of this group?

Given that VimWiki is such a relative sophisticated plugin and has
been developed and maintained over a relatively long time I would have
thought it would have more users. I know there are more than likely
more than eight users, but only eight members?

Surely there are more questions, more need for help than activity on
this list would suggest. Is there activity somewhere else?

Regards,

Eric Weir

[Maxim Kim]

There are no other vimwiki activities  I know about except issue tracker.

Unfortunatly I was very busy doing my job for a quite a long time, so there were no vimwiki development and other activities from me. 

Maxim.

[Eric Weir]

On Nov 22, 2011, at 3:48 AM, Maxim Kim wrote:

There are no other vimwiki activities  I know about except issue tracker.

Unfortunatly I was very busy doing my job for a quite a long time, so there were no vimwiki development and other activities from me. 

Well, I like it. It's pretty well thought out and bug-free for a recently-developed single-person product. I haven't had a single problem. I tried another vim wiki, soywiki, and like vimwiki better. 

I have a lot of experience with something called TiddlyWiki. It's a wiki in a single file with html and java and runs in a browser. It is very versatile. Notes created with it are called Tiddlers, and Tiddlers can be tagged, and tags are Tiddlers, too, so they can be tagged. The resulting hierarchical tagging is powerful. I found it helped me think about what I was writing about. 

I'm looking for an alternative. I'm not finding anything that has TiddlyWiki's tagging capabilities. That aside, I hope vimwiki will continue to evolve.

Regards, 

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Eric Weir

Decatur, GA

eew...@bellsouth.net

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than it is for other people." 

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[Eric Weir]

I'm finding that when I us the \wd command to delete a wiki page it causes the entire wiki to shut down. Haven't experienced any loss of data, but it's not what I'd expect.

Thanks,
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Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

[Maxim Kim]

I need more details about your environment. What os do you use, what are your vim and vimwiki versions. 

Does "causes entire wiki to shut down" mean that vim editor is crashed'n'closed?

[Eric Weir]

On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Maxim Kim wrote:

I need more details about your environment. What os do you use, what are your vim and vimwiki versions. 

Does "causes entire wiki to shut down" mean that vim editor is crashed'n'closed?

Thanks, Maxim. My os is osx 10.6.8. My vim version is 7.3. Not certain how to determine the vimwiki version; vimwiki.txt is 1.2. And no, only the wiki is closed. vim is unaffected.

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Eric Weir

Decatur, GA 

eew...@bellsouth.net

"We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, 

we borrow it from our children." 

- Chief Seattle.

[Maxim Kim]

Could you give me step by step instruction on how to reproduce it.

Smth like this:

1. Open viwmiki with \ww

2. Create link [[hello world]] in index.wiki

3. Visit [[hello world]] and save it.

4. \wd

5 ...

[Eric Weir]

No, I can't -- not if index.wiki is the only window.

In the past this has happened when there are other windows open -- three, to be specific, with another plugin running in each. I can reproduce that.

The other plugin in TaskPaper Vim.

Thanks,
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[Maxim Kim]

You can not give me the steps to reproduce that behaviour, can you?

Being unable to reproduce it I am not sure if it is possible to fix it.

[Eric Weir]

On Nov 24, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Maxim Kim wrote:

You can not give me the steps to reproduce that behaviour, can you?

Actually, I think I can. I just tested it with one other window open, in tabs, without the other plugin in use. 

In that situation, when I follow your directions, when I answer "y" to, "Delete?" the wiki shuts down.

[Maxim Kim]

The steps in my mail was just an example :)

Anyways, with those directions I can not reproduce it in my winxp and linux boxes.

Let us hope Stu Anrdews will appear here... as he uses Mac too.

[Eric Weir]

Thanks, Maxim. I know they were an example. I followed 'em anyway. -;)

It's not an emergency. The page is deleted. The wiki closes. No data are lost. 

Not even that much of a nuisance , since I don't delete pages that often.

Regards,

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Eric Weir

eew...@bellsouth.net

"The invincible shield of caring

Is a weapon sent from the sky 

against being dead." 

- Tao Te Ching 67

[Etienne B. Roesch]

Hi there (again),

I am on a mac too. Doing the following deletes the page and closes the page/tab/window. I don't use \wd that often so I am not sure if that is correct behaviour. A probably more interesting behaviour could be to jump a page up, I guess.

- create NewPage
- go to NewPage type something
- \wd
- answer yes

Etienne

[Maxim Kim]

Hi Etienne,

It should jump to a previous page.

[Stu]

On a mac, \wd works for me.  

When the command is issued for a wiki page in a separate tab (i.e. there are other tabs open, with alternate wiki pages), that tab closes and focus jumps to another tab.

When there are no tabs, the page is deleted and the previous page is displayed.

- Stu

[Eric Weir]

Yes, that is what I reported -- not initially, but under questioning.

I would expect the behavior in a tabbed window to be no different from an untabbed window.

Regards,

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Eric Weir

Decatur, GA 

eew...@bellsouth.net

"What does it mean...that the world is so beautiful?" 

- Mary Oliver 

[Stuart Andrews]

Ok.  Thanks for clarifying Eric.  I will look into the former behaviour and report back if I discover anything.

- Stu

[Eric Weir]

Thanks, Stu. Sorry I can't be of more help. Though I've gotten reasonably comfortable with Vim, at least for my primarily writing needs, I'm not a programmer and couldn't begin to help in diagnosing the problem. Identifying the problem is about the most you can expect from me.

I was glad to hear from Maxim that there's another Mac vimwiki user. 

Regards,

Eric

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Eric Weir

Decatur, GA 

eew...@bellsouth.net

[Maxim Kim]

Just curious, where in my step by step instruction example is a step with new tab? :)

[Eric Weir]

On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Maxim Kim wrote:

Just curious, where in my step by step instruction example is a step with new tab? :)

I didn't check, but I don't think there was one. And I'm not sure what you mean by "new tab." In my case I had several tabs open, and had been working in vimwiki for a while. When I deleted a vimwiki page it closed the vimwiki tab. Though not in your step by step instructions, it's not what I'd expect, either? I'm taking it your "wink" means you agree.

Again, while it's not what I'd expect, there is no loss of data, either. [I've never lost anything in vimwiki, even in situations in which I was sure I would have.]

[Maxim Kim]

Yep, that is why I asked for your step by step instruction on how to reproduce that behaviour.

Now it is clear (I believe) where the problem is. 

I'll fix it.

Thx.

[Eric Weir]

Good. [Though as I say it's not an earth-shaking problem.]

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Eric Weir

Decatur, GA

eew...@bellsouth.net

"What is man without the beasts? If all the beasts were gone, 

men would die from a great loneliness of spirit." 

- Chief Seattle