:help WITHOUT split screen
Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
text in a new tab.
I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
both cases.
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Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz, Scotland
Jürgen Krämer
Hi,
Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz wrote:
> This is one of my biggest bug bears and it drives me absolutely nuts:
>
> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
> I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
> text in a new tab.
>
>
> I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
> both cases.
:tab help topic
Regards,
J�rgen
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Hi,
What about using an autocommand:
au BufEnter * if &filetype == 'help' | :only | endif
See ':help :only' for how it works when 'hidden' is not set.
The drawback of it is that if you have several windows opened it will hide
them all, but it seems that you don't split windows in which case this doesn't
matter.
Best regards,
Marcin
jeroen
> Hi,
>
> Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz wrote:
> > This is one of my biggest bug bears and it drives me absolutely nuts:
> >
> > Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
> > I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
> > text in a new tab.
> >
> >
> > I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
> > both cases.
>
> :tab help topic
I always use that method to read help pages. In fact I have added an abbreviation in my .vimrc for it:
cabbrev help tab help
Now whenever you start typing :help on the commandline and press the spacebar the enter the subject, it will automatically expand to 'tab help'.
Jeroen
Guido Van Hoecke
<v...@numerixtechnology.de> wrote:
> This is one of my biggest bug bears and it drives me absolutely nuts:
>
> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
> I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
> text in a new tab.
Same here
>
>
> I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
> both cases.
>
I have this command abbreviation:
" h open help in new tab
cabbrev h tab help
So whenever I ask help with ':h' it just opens a new tab with it.
HTH,
Guido
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Phil Dobbin
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On 30/03/2012 13:39, Guido Van Hoecke wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 13:51, Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
> <v...@numerixtechnology.de> wrote:
>> This is one of my biggest bug bears and it drives me absolutely nuts:
>>
>> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
>> I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
>> text in a new tab.
>
> Same here
>
>>
>>
>> I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
>> both cases.
>>
>
> I have this command abbreviation:
>
> " h open help in new tab
> cabbrev h tab help
>
> So whenever I ask help with ':h' it just opens a new tab with it.
Maybe it's just me but if I type:
`:tab help topic` that works but the above abbreviation doesn't do anything.
Vim 7.2.445 huge with GTK2 GUI & the same console version on Debian
Squeeze + Vim 7.3.462 huge no GUI & MacVim 7.3.353 huge with MacVim GUI
on OS X.
Cheers,
Phil...
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Guido Van Hoecke
> On 30/03/2012 13:39, Guido Van Hoecke wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 13:51, Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
>> <v...@numerixtechnology.de> wrote:
>>> This is one of my biggest bug bears and it drives me absolutely nuts:
>>>
>>> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
>>> I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
>>> text in a new tab.
>> Same here
>>> I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
>>> both cases.
>> I have this command abbreviation:
>>
>> " h open help in new tab
>> cabbrev h tab help
>>
>> So whenever I ask help with ':h' it just opens a new tab with it.
>
> Maybe it's just me but if I type:
>
> `:tab help topic` that works but the above abbreviation doesn't do anything.
`:h topic` should work equally well.
>
> Vim 7.2.445 huge with GTK2 GUI & the same console version on Debian
> Squeeze + Vim 7.3.462 huge no GUI & MacVim 7.3.353 huge with MacVim GUI
> on OS X.
Strange, I have this cabbrev in my .vimrc longer than I can remember.
Currently I use
:version
VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3 (2010 Aug 15, compiled Jan 2 2012 17:38:47)
MacOS X (unix) version
Included patches: 1-390
Compiled by Bjorn Winckler <bjorn.w...@gmail.com>
Huge version with MacVim GUI.
So sorry I can't give any further assistance.
It's basic vim, can't think of any reason why it would not work.
With kind regards,
Guido
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Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
Guido Van Hoecke <gui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
>cabbrev h tab help
Many thanks - works fine here.
I've covered all options in .vimrc now:
" always open help in new tab
cabbrev help tab help
cabbrev he tab help
cabbrev h tab help
Phil Dobbin
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On 30/03/2012 14:35, Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:39:33 +0200 Guido Van Hoecke
> <gui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
>> cabbrev h tab help
>
> Many thanks - works fine here.
>
> I've covered all options in .vimrc now:
>
> " always open help in new tab cabbrev help tab help cabbrev he tab
> help cabbrev h tab help
Very odd. Never mind, `:tab h topic` it is then...
Cheers,
Phil...
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Ben Fritz
>
> Hi,
>
> What about using an autocommand:
>
> au BufEnter * if &filetype == 'help' | :only | endif
>
This will wreck havoc if you ever intentionally split the help window, for example to view two help topics side by side.
I would lean toward something like this, were I to want an automatic method:
au bufwinenter *.txt
\ if &filetype=='help' | wincmd p |
\ if &filetype!='help' | wincmd p | wincmd T |
\ else | wincmd p | endif |
\ endif
Probably I would tweak this to not actually switch the window but use a function to retrieve the option value without switching windows, but this seems to work fairly well in a few minutes of testing.
I normally just prefix the :tab though, and don't really feel the need for any automatic method.
Charles Campbell
> This is one of my biggest bug bears and it drives me absolutely nuts:
>
> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
> I never, ever want a horizontal split. I'd just like to see the help
> text in a new tab.
>
>
> I mostly use gvim, sometimes vim. So I need a solution that works in
> both cases.
>
Manpageview (see
http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#MANPAGEVIEW), which
handles several kinds of help (vim, manpages, perl, php, and python),
has a TMan command, which provides help in a separate tab. As a
variant, there's OMan, which saves your window(s) and opens the help
page in its stead (and a :q will restore your previous window(s)).
Regards,
Chip Campbell
Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
Charles Campbell <Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>Manpageview (see
>http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#MANPAGEVIEW), which
>handles several kinds of help (vim, manpages, perl, php, and python),
>has a TMan command, which provides help in a separate tab.
Just installed (v24c). I like K Map! Great for Vim and bash!
There doesn't seem to be a TMan though.
On vim help pages PgUp, PgDn work but on bash man pages and python help
they don't; there I need to scroll using the scroll bars.
Charles Campbell
I'll have to look into PgUp and PgDn later...
Regards,
Chip Campbell
Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
Charles Campbell <Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:17:44 -0400
>> Charles Campbell<Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Manpageview (see
>>> http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#MANPAGEVIEW), which
>>> handles several kinds of help (vim, manpages, perl, php, and
>>> python), has a TMan command, which provides help in a separate tab.
>>>
>> Just installed (v24c).
>>
>> There doesn't seem to be a TMan though.
>>
>I've now loaded v24d on my website; its the one with TMan.
I installed v24d but the plugin/manpageviewPlugin.vim is from 16/9/2008
and doesn't define TMan. (unless I've done something dumb?)
Thilo Six
Excerpt from Ben Fritz:
-- <snip> --
> I would lean toward something like this, were I to want an automatic method:
>
> au bufwinenter *.txt
> \ if &filetype=='help' | wincmd p |
> \ if &filetype!='help' | wincmd p | wincmd T |
> \ else | wincmd p | endif |
> \ endif
How about:
au bufwinenter *.txt
\ if &buftype == "help"
\ | wincmd T
\ | endif
> Probably I would tweak this to not actually switch the window but use a function to retrieve the option value without switching windows, but this seems to work fairly well in a few minutes of testing.
>
> I normally just prefix the :tab though, and don't really feel the need for any automatic method.
>
--
Regards,
Thilo
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Tony Mechelynck
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:39:33 +0200
> Guido Van Hoecke <gui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Is there a way to prevent :help from splitting the window?!
>> cabbrev h tab help
>
> Many thanks - works fine here.
>
> I've covered all options in .vimrc now:
>
> " always open help in new tab
> cabbrev help tab help
> cabbrev he tab help
> cabbrev h tab help
>
>
>
>
>
One slight disadvantage of the above (which can be worked around in
recent versions) is that if you ever type the word "help" on a command
lne, it will be abbreviated even if not at the start. For example, the
(very useful) command
:help help
will become
:tab help tab help
which not only is not what you want, it is illegal. In addition, the
abbreviation will be triggered also in / or ? (search) command-lines,
which you don't want either.
The way to work around it is as follows:
if version < 700
cnoreabbrev h tab h
cnoreabbrev he tab he
cnoreabbrev hel tab hel
cnoreabbrev help tab help
" in Vim 6.x or earlier (which is now obsolete
" but hasn't got :abbr <expr> )
" we'll need to break the abbrev halfway
" (e.g. by <Left><Right>)
" to avoid expanding the argument of :help help
" or h he hel help in a search command
else
cnoreabbrev <expr> h
\ ((getcmdtype() == ':' && getcmdpos() <= 2)?
\ 'tab h' : 'h')
cnoreabbrev <expr> he
\ ((getcmdtype() == ':' && getcmdpos() <= 3)?
\ 'tab he' : 'he')
cnoreabbrev <expr> hel
\ ((getcmdtype() == ':' && getcmdpos() <= 4)?
\ 'tab hel' : 'hel')
cnoreabbrev <expr> help
\ ((getcmdtype() == ':' && getcmdpos() <= 5)?
\ 'tab help' : 'help')
endif
Notes:
-----
- The above (meant for cut'n paste) assumes 'nocompatible', which is the
default if your vimrc is named .vimrc or _vimrc but not .exrc or _exrc
- The deprecated (but still valid) variable name "version" is used in
preference to "v:version" for compatibility with some even older
obsolete versions.
Best regards,
Tony.
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Charles E Campbell Jr
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:32:59 -0400
> Charles Campbell<Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>
>> Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:17:44 -0400
>>> Charles Campbell<Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Manpageview (see
>>>> http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#MANPAGEVIEW), which
>>>> handles several kinds of help (vim, manpages, perl, php, and
>>>> python), has a TMan command, which provides help in a separate tab.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just installed (v24c).
>>>
>>> There doesn't seem to be a TMan though.
>>>
>>>
>> I've now loaded v24d on my website; its the one with TMan.
>>
>
> I installed v24d but the plugin/manpageviewPlugin.vim is from 16/9/2008
> and doesn't define TMan. (unless I've done something dumb?)
>
>
I just downloaded v24d myself from my website -- and TMan is there (its
actually defined as a command in manpageviewPlugin.vim). It worked for
me when I tested it, too.
Please check again... (and be sure that you're actually getting v24d,
it'll say so in manpageview.vim -- perhaps the browser cache is causing
problems?).
Regards,
Chip Campbell
Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
Charles E Campbell Jr <drc...@campbellfamily.biz> wrote:
>I just downloaded v24d myself from my website -- and TMan is there
ok, got it now. No idea where I went wrong.
Ben Fritz
> Hello Ben
>
>
> Excerpt from Ben Fritz:
> -- <snip> --
> > I would lean toward something like this, were I to want an automatic method:
> >
> > au bufwinenter *.txt
> > \ if &filetype=='help' | wincmd p |
> > \ if &filetype!='help' | wincmd p | wincmd T |
> > \ else | wincmd p | endif |
> > \ endif
>
> How about:
> au bufwinenter *.txt
> \ if &buftype == "help"
> \ | wincmd T
> \ | endif
>
>
Yes, you could also use &buftype rather than &filetype. But this will never allow you to intentionally split a help window and look up a new topic to see two of them side-by-side. Hence the wincmd p stuff in my suggestion.
Francis (Grizzly) Smit
> On Sunday, April 1, 2012 5:52:39 AM UTC-5, Thilo Six wrote:
>> Hello Ben
>>
>>
>> Excerpt from Ben Fritz:
>> -- <snip> --
>>> I would lean toward something like this, were I to want an automatic method:
>>>
>>> au bufwinenter *.txt
>>> \ if&filetype=='help' | wincmd p |
>>> \ else | wincmd p | endif |
>>> \ endif
>> How about:
>> au bufwinenter *.txt
>> \ | wincmd T
>> \ | endif
>>
>>
> Yes, you could also use&buftype rather than&filetype. But this will never allow you to intentionally split a help window and look up a new topic to see two of them side-by-side. Hence the wincmd p stuff in my suggestion.
>
if your using gvim then :tab help cmd will give you the help in a new
tab no split window
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Thilo Six
Excerpt from Ben Fritz:
-- <snip> --
> Yes, you could also use &buftype rather than &filetype. But this will never
> allow you to intentionally split a help window and look up a new topic to see
> two of them side-by-side. Hence the wincmd p stuff in my suggestion.
Good Point. This version seem to resemble this:
au bufwinenter *.txt
\ if &buftype == "help"
\ | if getwinvar(winnr("#"), '&ft') != 'help'
\ | wincmd T
\ | endif
\ | endif
Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz
Charles Campbell <Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>Tarlika Elisabeth Schmitz wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 13:17:44 -0400
>> Charles Campbell<Charles.E...@nasa.gov> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Manpageview (see
>>> http://www.drchip.org/astronaut/vim/index.html#MANPAGEVIEW), which
>>> handles several kinds of help (vim, manpages, perl, php, and
>>> python), has a TMan command, which provides help in a separate tab.
>>>
>> On vim help pages PgUp, PgDn work but on bash man pages and python
>> help they don't; there I need to scroll using the scroll bars.
>>
>I'll have to look into PgUp and PgDn later...
Did you ever get a chance to look into this?
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