i think ive been through this so many times again. i am a user for at least a few months, posted a dozen of times even helped out here and there i already begged last week to be on the group whitelist...but still didnt get an answer... what's go
ale
i think ive been through this so many times
again. i am a user for at least a few months, posted a dozen of times
even helped out here and there
i already begged last week to be on the group whitelist...but still
didnt get an answer...
what's going on?
is it an exclusive club?
wish vim had a cool bunch of people like emacs instead of just letting
me locked outside for ages..
its disgusing and condescending..
Marc Weber
> this is regarding the nabble webiste..
What are you talking about exactly?
Vim users communicate in different ways: (arbitrary order)
a) www.vim.org
b) wikia Vim wiki
c) irc.freenode.net (channel #vim)
d) the mailinglist
e) private messages on github
.. many more I don't know.
I don't know about the nabble webiste. Can you post a link?
> i think ive been through this so many times
>
> again. i am a user for at least a few months, posted a dozen of times
> even helped out here and there
> i already begged last week to be on the group whitelist...
which whitelist? Are you talking about the mailinglist now, or still
about nabble?
> what's going on?
No idea. But I'm sure someone will hear you and try to fix it.
> is it an exclusive club?
Of course not.
> wish vim had a cool bunch of people like emacs instead of just letting
> me locked outside for ages..
Get vimpulse - be happy *kidding*.
If your serious about this community: Offer your help to fix the trouble
to which you were exposed to. I'm sure you're welcome.
Marc Weber
bill lam
> this is regarding the nabble webiste..
I think you should send your request directly to webmaster of nabble.com
instead of here. Do you actually think that the guys in nabble.com will
answer you here?
BTW I still think you owed the moderators an apology.
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aleCodd
i reckon i was confused how this mailing list worked and thought it is the
same moderator..
so is there a separate moderator for the nabble website specific to the vim
group...
or is it general...
thanks..
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bill lam
>
> i reckon i was confused how this mailing list worked and thought it is the
> same moderator..
> so is there a separate moderator for the nabble website specific to the vim
> group...
>
> or is it general...
>
> thanks..
>
I hate to bore you but I still think should ask the webmaster of nabble.com
directly.
Christian Brabandt
On Fr, 20 Aug 2010, aleCodd wrote:
> i reckon i was confused how this mailing list worked and thought it is the
> same moderator..
> so is there a separate moderator for the nabble website specific to the vim
> group...
>
> or is it general...
Why don't you use the mailinglist directly without involving nabble,
e.g. you use an mail user program to write mails to
vim...@googlegroups.com when you want to request help or answer
questions.
regards,
Christian
Benjamin R. Haskell
> this is regarding the nabble webiste..
>
> i think ive been through this so many times
>
> again. i am a user for at least a few months, posted a dozen of times
> even helped out here and there i already begged last week to be on the
> group whitelist...but still didnt get an answer...
You got 9 responses in your thread about the group's moderation. I
didn't see a response from you. I think I was the only one on "your
side", so to speak. Going back in my email archive, I see two dozen
threads in which you've participated since early June (from the same
spammy-looking email address). I was also surprised you hadn't been
whitelisted yet.
But I also give a lot of leeway to the moderators, since:
1) They're unpaid volunteers who are performing an essential service
and
2) It's unclear what kind of interface they're working with. (Maybe
they can't manually whitelist people.)
Maybe it's mostly a problem since you're posting via Nabble. Maybe
Nabble itself imposes some kind of delay. (Either way, I doubt there's
anything Nabble can do about it.)
> what's going on?
> is it an exclusive club?
> wish vim had a cool bunch of people like emacs instead of just letting
> me locked outside for ages..
Come on. You're hurting your case, here.
> its disgusing and condescending..
Doubtful. More likely it's either an honest mistake (No one seems to be
actively preventing you from posting), simply bad timing (It's been
pointed out that the moderators are volunteers), or something technical
(posting via Nabble).
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Best,
Ben
Tony Mechelynck
> this is regarding the nabble webiste..
>
> i think ive been through this so many times
>
> again. i am a user for at least a few months, posted a dozen of times
> even helped out here and there
> i already begged last week to be on the group whitelist...but still
> didnt get an answer...
AFAIK, you already are on the whitelist.
>
> what's going on?
Maybe your Gmail spam filters are catching the answers; see at bottom.
You haven't configured your Google groups for "no mail" have you? See
http://groups.google.com/groups/mysubs
> is it an exclusive club?
no.
> wish vim had a cool bunch of people like emacs instead of just letting
> me locked outside for ages..
I don't know what kind of people there are on the Emacs list, but most
of the people on the Vim lists are helpful, polite and good-humored.
Sometimes we see a whining and griping post like yours here, but it's an
extremely rare exception. If you prefer Emacs and its groups, you're
welcome to use it and lurk there instead.
>
> its disgusing and condescending..
>
There are three moderators on the vim.org list, at least two of which
live in the CET/CST time zone. Each of them sometimes sleeps, eats,
shops, watches TV, reads the newspaper, makes love, goes on holiday,
maybe even works, so there's no guarantee at any time that there'll be
at least one moderator online. However it's an extremely rare event that
a day passes without at least one moderator cheching the approval queue.
Then once a moderator has seen a mail, in the extreme majority of cases
its author is either whitelisted or (if it was spam) blacklisted,
meaning mail from that address won't be held in the queue in the future
anymore � it'll be either posted or blocked with no moderator intervention.
I don't know what nabble is, or if it adds an additional waiting delay,
or even an additional moderation; however, if you don't see the replies,
check https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2#spam � maybe gmail is acting up.
You should periodically check both your gmail inbox (or Trash if you
read your Google mail via POP or IMAP) for uncaught spam (and report it
as spam using "More actions" in the webmail interface) *and* your gmail
Spam folder for legitimate mail erroneously caught as spam (and click
"Not spam" in the webmail interface). This is to "teach" your gmail spam
filters what _you_ regard as spam or as non-spam.
Best regards,
Tony.
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Scientists working for the Department of Energy have tried to form oil
using other animals; they've piled thousands of tons of sand and Middle
Eastern countries on top of cows, raccoons, haddock, laboratory rats,
etc., but so far all they have managed to do is run up an enormous
bulldozer-rental bill and anger a lot of Middle Eastern persons. None
of the animals turned into oil, although most of the laboratory rats
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