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RE: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

philnic...@hotmail.com (Philip Nicholls) — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 22:24:28 UT

Ja I shpotted dis too.

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There are some good reds from Sainsbury as well - a few of their own label wines are clearly marked Vegan.

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No, don't do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out there. Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be labelled - the fair trade ones are good. Or there is a company called Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website. [link]

RE: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

haz...@bowesrigg.freeserve.co.uk (Hazel Robertson) — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:46:05 UT

There are some good reds from Sainsbury as well - a few of their own
label wines are clearly marked Vegan.

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Behalf Of Claire Cunniffe
Sent: 07 September 2009 10:03
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

No, don't do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out

Re: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

claracunni...@yahoo.co.uk (Claire Cunniffe) — Mon, 07 Sep 2009 09:02:58 UT

Re: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

kiprigg...@gmail.com (Katharine Riggins) — Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:53:57 UT

Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn't recommend
'Our Daily Red' - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg
whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan
wines.

Re: [veganwine] Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

kowalche...@yahoo.com (Ken Kowalchek) — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 16:57:58 UT

Shaynie and Group:
Thank you, Shaynie, for the clarification of the "clarification issue" on Kosher wines for Vegans. Rather than my initial missive stating Kosher wines are vegetarian, I should have said that Kosher wines are typically vegegarian.

Kosher winemakers today typically use bentonite (clay) for fining rather than deal with kashrut certification issues of whether exclusively kosher ground fish/animals were used by vinters' suppliers of isinglass or gelatin. Although egg whites may be used in clarification of Kosher wine, (OK for lacto-ovo vegetarians but unfit for vegans), the likelihood is that today's Kosher wine producers clarify with bentonite, making it fit for vegans also.

Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

tgild...@gmail.com (tgildred) — Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:24:12 UT

Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan?

(just kidding)

Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!

naive_sav...@hotmail.com (Shaynie Brandler) — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:44:03 UT

Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".

Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

kiprigg...@gmail.com (Katharine Riggins) — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:08:39 UT

Wish I could 'pop down'. I'm popping down to Mexico this weekend. Have a
penchant for tropical storms. :) - Kip

Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

kiprigg...@gmail.com (Katharine Riggins) — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:16:42 UT

Very informative. Vegan it is. - Katharine (Kip)

On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Shaynie Brandler

Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

kiprigg...@gmail.com (Katharine Riggins) — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:14:28 UT

Roz, Hi! Now that I have to know (have acquired a severe egg allergy), it
turns out that winemakers use egg whites to fine (clarify) wines. Some
vineyards do it to the reds only, some the whites only, some both. Vegan
wines don't fine with egg whites. Kosher wines, according to people in this

Re: [veganwine] FW: Vegan Beer - Vegan Wine - Vegan Liquor

martinidri...@yahoo.com (Angie Velazquez) — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:08:15 UT

That's a great link! Thanks!

Ang

I had this link in my files.

Joan Ross

[link]

RE: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

naive_sav...@hotmail.com (Shaynie Brandler) — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 UT

Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.

RE: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

katharine_rigg...@hotmail.com (katharine riggins) — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:54:12 UT

Thanks! Will try it.

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Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

kiprigg...@gmail.com (Katharine Riggins) — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:46:41 UT

Thanx about the kosher labels. So many merchants are lost when you ask them
questions. I'm learning! U p . Got it.

Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels

sylviadan...@yahoo.co.uk (Sylvia Garcia) — Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:13:39 UT

Vintage Roots are a great organic and biodynamic wine supplier who also notify clearly all of their wines which are suitable for vegans. They can also do commercial wholesale as well as domestic- see vintageroots.co.uk and ask for Ewan- he is great. Alternatively- pop down to my restaurant where we have a full organic and vegan selection exclusively from Vintage Roots. See [link] for more info.