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  <title type="text">Vegan Wine Google Group</title>
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  Discussion about vegan wine
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  <updated>2009-10-05T22:24:28Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Philip Nicholls</name>
  <email>philnic...@hotmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-10-05T22:24:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/12fc6f64f1a8cf5b?show_docid=12fc6f64f1a8cf5b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/12fc6f64f1a8cf5b?show_docid=12fc6f64f1a8cf5b"/>
  <title type="text">RE: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  Ja I shpotted dis too. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;To: veganwine@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;There are some good reds from Sainsbury as well - a few of their own label wines are clearly marked Vegan. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-----Original Message----- &lt;br&gt; Sent: 07 September 2009 10:03 &lt;br&gt; To: veganwine@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;No, don&#39;t do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out there. Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be labelled - the fair trade ones are good. Or there is a company called Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.vinceremos.co.uk/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Hazel Robertson</name>
  <email>haz...@bowesrigg.freeserve.co.uk</email>
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  <updated>2009-09-07T17:46:05Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c7e2d4dadfaf9ba9?show_docid=c7e2d4dadfaf9ba9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c7e2d4dadfaf9ba9?show_docid=c7e2d4dadfaf9ba9"/>
  <title type="text">RE: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  There are some good reds from Sainsbury as well - a few of their own &lt;br&gt; label wines are clearly marked Vegan. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-----Original Message----- &lt;br&gt; Behalf Of Claire Cunniffe &lt;br&gt; Sent: 07 September 2009 10:03 &lt;br&gt; To: veganwine@googlegroups.com &lt;br&gt; mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;No, don&#39;t do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Claire Cunniffe</name>
  <email>claracunni...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-09-07T09:02:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/dd8b3ee418b17d6e?show_docid=dd8b3ee418b17d6e</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/dd8b3ee418b17d6e?show_docid=dd8b3ee418b17d6e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  No, don&#39;t do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out there.  Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be labelled - the fair trade ones are good.  Or there is a company called Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website. &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.vinceremos.co..uk/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Katharine Riggins</name>
  <email>kiprigg...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-09-04T16:53:57Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c7bf6e82b30812a8?show_docid=c7bf6e82b30812a8</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c7bf6e82b30812a8?show_docid=c7bf6e82b30812a8"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn&#39;t recommend &lt;br&gt; &#39;Our Daily Red&#39; - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg &lt;br&gt; whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan &lt;br&gt; wines.
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  <author>
  <name>Ken Kowalchek</name>
  <email>kowalche...@yahoo.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-09-02T16:57:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/95861f34224dde7d?show_docid=95861f34224dde7d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/95861f34224dde7d?show_docid=95861f34224dde7d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  Shaynie and Group: &lt;br&gt; Thank you, Shaynie, for the clarification of the &amp;quot;clarification issue&amp;quot; on Kosher wines for Vegans.  Rather than my initial missive stating Kosher wines are vegetarian, I should have said that Kosher wines are typically vegegarian. &lt;br&gt;   &lt;br&gt; Kosher winemakers today typically use bentonite (clay) for fining rather than deal with kashrut certification issues of whether exclusively kosher ground fish/animals were used by vinters&#39; suppliers of isinglass or gelatin.  Although egg whites may be used in clarification of Kosher wine, (OK for lacto-ovo vegetarians but unfit for vegans), the likelihood is that today&#39;s Kosher wine producers clarify with bentonite, making it fit for vegans also. 
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  <author>
  <name>tgildred</name>
  <email>tgild...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-09-02T15:24:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/1ce4ccdaf0009957?show_docid=1ce4ccdaf0009957</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/1ce4ccdaf0009957?show_docid=1ce4ccdaf0009957"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;(just kidding)
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  <author>
  <name>Shaynie Brandler</name>
  <email>naive_sav...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-09-01T20:44:03Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/5efa1578fa3481cb?show_docid=5efa1578fa3481cb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/5efa1578fa3481cb?show_docid=5efa1578fa3481cb"/>
  <title type="text">Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!</title>
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  Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there&#39;s someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday&#39;s explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her &amp;quot;egg issue&amp;quot;.
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  <author>
  <name>Katharine Riggins</name>
  <email>kiprigg...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2009-09-01T16:08:39Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/36799d51d1aab87a?show_docid=36799d51d1aab87a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Wish I could &#39;pop down&#39;. I&#39;m popping down to Mexico this weekend. Have a &lt;br&gt; penchant for tropical storms. :) - Kip
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Katharine Riggins</name>
  <email>kiprigg...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-09-01T16:16:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c35945a9ead31bea?show_docid=c35945a9ead31bea</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c35945a9ead31bea?show_docid=c35945a9ead31bea"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Very informative. Vegan it is. - Katharine (Kip) &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Shaynie Brandler
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  <author>
  <name>Katharine Riggins</name>
  <email>kiprigg...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-09-01T16:14:28Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/2f7c493b6eebc83d?show_docid=2f7c493b6eebc83d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/2f7c493b6eebc83d?show_docid=2f7c493b6eebc83d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Roz, Hi! Now that I have to know (have acquired a severe egg allergy), it &lt;br&gt; turns out that winemakers use egg whites to fine (clarify) wines. Some &lt;br&gt; vineyards do it to the reds only, some the whites only, some both. Vegan &lt;br&gt; wines don&#39;t fine with egg whites. Kosher wines, according to people in this
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  <author>
  <name>Angie Velazquez</name>
  <email>martinidri...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-08-31T21:08:15Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/7d8bdf86cf2451c0/0951f797097a199d?show_docid=0951f797097a199d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/7d8bdf86cf2451c0/0951f797097a199d?show_docid=0951f797097a199d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] FW: Vegan Beer - Vegan Wine - Vegan Liquor</title>
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  That&#39;s a great link! Thanks! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Ang &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I had this link in my files. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Joan Ross &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.barnivore.com/wine&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Shaynie Brandler</name>
  <email>naive_sav...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-08-31T20:15:35Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c84e856c86854e43?show_docid=c84e856c86854e43</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/c84e856c86854e43?show_docid=c84e856c86854e43"/>
  <title type="text">RE: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, &amp;quot;kosher&amp;quot; does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply &amp;quot;kosher&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;vegetarian&amp;quot;. Furthermore, products labelled &amp;quot;kosher&amp;quot; may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with &amp;quot;kosher&amp;quot; and the letter &amp;quot;D&amp;quot; contain dairy. Products labelled with &amp;quot;kosher&amp;quot; and the word &amp;quot;parve&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;pareve&amp;quot; will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
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  <author>
  <name>katharine riggins</name>
  <email>katharine_rigg...@hotmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-08-31T19:54:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/1ffd5134f490f599?show_docid=1ffd5134f490f599</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/1ffd5134f490f599?show_docid=1ffd5134f490f599"/>
  <title type="text">RE: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Thanks! Will try it. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;______________________________ ______________________________ _____ &lt;br&gt; Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://windowslive.com/Campaign/SocialNetworking?ocid=PID23285::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_SB_facebook:082009&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <author>
  <name>Katharine Riggins</name>
  <email>kiprigg...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-08-31T19:46:41Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/d56cdea025258133?show_docid=d56cdea025258133</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Thanx about the kosher labels. So many merchants are lost when you ask them &lt;br&gt; questions. I&#39;m learning! U p . Got it.
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  <author>
  <name>Sylvia Garcia</name>
  <email>sylviadan...@yahoo.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2009-08-31T18:13:39Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/b6b55f4830b44267?show_docid=b6b55f4830b44267</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/veganwine/browse_thread/thread/044e8512c5b40ddb/b6b55f4830b44267?show_docid=b6b55f4830b44267"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels</title>
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  Vintage Roots are a great organic and biodynamic wine supplier who also notify clearly all of their wines which are suitable for vegans. They can also do commercial wholesale as well as domestic- see vintageroots.co.uk and ask for Ewan- he is great. Alternatively- pop down to my restaurant where we have a full organic and vegan selection exclusively from Vintage Roots. See &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.root-master.co.uk&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; for more info.
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