Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
-----Original Message-----
Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:49:05 am
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
From: "Katharine Riggins" <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had
'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes
is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
You might try asking your wine merchant for Kosher wines, all vegetarian. There are beaucoup choices - many more than "Grandma's Easter Sweet Wine" aka Maneshewitz Concord. The labels thereon usually have a discreet U (kosher) often with a small p (passover) on the label. Bonne chance!
________________________________
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
TJ's cab is pretty good, shiraz not bad either. Supposedly the reds are
vegan.
KY
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had
> 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes
> is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
> New Vegan
-- "People often say that humans have always eaten meat, as if this is a
justification for continuing the practice. According to logic, we should
not try to prevent people from murdering other people, since this has also
been done since the earliest of times"
Are there "eggs" or egg products in wines? I thought wines were not vegan due to the bone chart and/or dairy aspect.
Roz
________________________________
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
Vintage Roots are a great organic and biodynamic wine supplier who also notify clearly all of their wines which are suitable for vegans. They can also do commercial wholesale as well as domestic- see vintageroots.co.uk and ask for Ewan- he is great. Alternatively- pop down to my restaurant where we have a full organic and vegan selection exclusively from Vintage Roots. See www.root-master.co.uk for more info.
Hope this helps
Sylvia Garcia
Managing DirectorRootmaster Ltd
--- On Sun, 30/8/09, Roz CC <roz69...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Roz CC <roz69...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 30 August, 2009, 6:24 PM
Are there "eggs" or egg products in wines? I thought wines were not vegan due to the bone chart and/or dairy aspect. Roz
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Sent:
Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
> You might try asking your wine merchant for Kosher wines, all
> vegetarian. There are beaucoup choices - many more than "Grandma's Easter
> Sweet Wine" aka Maneshewitz Concord. The labels thereon usually have a
> discreet U (kosher) often with a small p (passover) on the label.
> Bonne chance!
> Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had
> 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes
> is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:21:44 -0500
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> From: carolf...@yahoo.com
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> CC:
> Try Our Daily Red. Think TraderJoes has it. > -----Original Message-----
> Date: Saturday, August 29, 2009 11:49:05 am
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> From: "Katharine Riggins" <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
> Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
> Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had
> 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes
> is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
Shaynie
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:04 -0700
From: kowalche...@yahoo.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
You might try asking your wine merchant for Kosher wines, all vegetarian. There are beaucoup choices - many more than "Grandma's Easter Sweet Wine" aka Maneshewitz Concord. The labels thereon usually have a discreet U (kosher) often with a small p (passover) on the label.
Bonne chance!
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
Roz, Hi! Now that I have to know (have acquired a severe egg allergy), it
turns out that winemakers use egg whites to fine (clarify) wines. Some
vineyards do it to the reds only, some the whites only, some both. Vegan
wines don't fine with egg whites. Kosher wines, according to people in this
group (!) are vegan. Now I'm staying away from wines that add sulphites,
too.
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Roz CC <roz69...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Are there "eggs" or egg products in wines? I thought wines were not
> vegan due to the bone chart and/or dairy aspect.
> Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must.
> Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader
> Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or
> cab??
> Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping
> kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a
> vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg
> shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is
> insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg
> shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to
> ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated
> with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian".
> Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish,
> although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the
> same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain
> dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will
> not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
> Shaynie
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:04 -0700
> From: kowalche...@yahoo.com
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> You might try asking your wine merchant for Kosher wines, all
> vegetarian. There are beaucoup choices - many more than "Grandma's Easter
> Sweet Wine" aka Maneshewitz Concord. The labels thereon usually have a
> discreet U (kosher) often with a small p (passover) on the label.
> Bonne chance!
> Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had
> 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes
> is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
> Vintage Roots are a great organic and biodynamic wine supplier who also
> notify clearly all of their wines which are suitable for vegans. They can
> also do commercial wholesale as well as domestic- see vintageroots.co.ukand ask for Ewan- he is great. Alternatively- pop down to my restaurant
> where we have a full organic and vegan selection exclusively from Vintage
> Roots. See www.root-master.co.uk for more info.
> Hope this helps
> Sylvia Garcia
> Managing Director
> Rootmaster Ltd
> --- On *Sun, 30/8/09, Roz CC <roz69...@yahoo.com>* wrote:
> From: Roz CC <roz69...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sunday, 30 August, 2009, 6:24 PM
> Are there "eggs" or egg products in wines? I thought wines were not
> vegan due to the bone chart and/or dairy aspect.
> Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had
> 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes
> is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
Shaynie
From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com To: veganwine@googlegroups.com Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
> Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
> Shaynie
> From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
> Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
Shaynie and Group:
Thank you, Shaynie, for the clarification of the "clarification issue" on Kosher wines for Vegans. Rather than my initial missive stating Kosher wines are vegetarian, I should have said that Kosher wines are typically vegegarian.
Kosher winemakers today typically use bentonite (clay) for fining rather than deal with kashrut certification issues of whether exclusively kosher ground fish/animals were used by vinters' suppliers of isinglass or gelatin. Although egg whites may be used in clarification of Kosher wine, (OK for lacto-ovo vegetarians but unfit for vegans), the likelihood is that today's Kosher wine producers clarify with bentonite, making it fit for vegans also.
Here is a link that corroborates for info of the group
OU Question Person:
Do you have any further insights to share about OU kosher wine certification with lacto-ovo vegetarian or vegan wine seekers?
Have a good continuation, all.
________________________________
From: Shaynie Brandler <naive_sav...@hotmail.com>
To: VeganWine VeganWine <veganwine@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 4:44:03 PM
Subject: [veganwine] Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
Shaynie
________________________________
From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
Shaynie
________________________________
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:49:04 -0700
From: kowalche...@yahoo.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
You might try asking your wine merchant for Kosher wines, all vegetarian. There are beaucoup choices - many more than "Grandma's Easter Sweet Wine" aka Maneshewitz Concord. The labels thereon usually have a discreet U (kosher) often with a small p (passover) on the label. Bonne chance!
________________________________
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 3:51:48 PM
Subject: [veganwine] New Vegan needs labels
Am a newly allergic patient to eggs, thus the vegan wines are a must. Had 'Yellowtail' Merlot last night - doesn't agree with me at all! Trader Joes is my market to buy wines at...who can heartily recommend a merlot, or cab??
Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn't recommend
'Our Daily Red' - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg
whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan
wines.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, tgildred <tgild...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan?
> (just kidding)
> On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, Shaynie Brandler <naive_sav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT
> being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today
> again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are
> automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation
> about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special
> emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
> > Shaynie
> > From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com
> > To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> > Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
> > Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping
> kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a
> vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg
> shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is
> insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg
> shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to
> ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated
> with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian".
> Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish,
> although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the
> same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain
> dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will
> not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
No, don't do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out there. Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be labelled - the fair trade ones are good. Or there is a company called Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website. http://www.vinceremos.co..uk/
--- On Fri, 4/9/09, Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 4 September, 2009, 5:53 PM
Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn't recommend 'Our Daily Red' - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan wines.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, tgildred <tgild...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan?
(just kidding)
On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, Shaynie Brandler <naive_sav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
> Shaynie
> From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
> Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
-----Original Message-----
From: veganwine@googlegroups.com [mailto:veganwine@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Claire Cunniffe
Sent: 07 September 2009 10:03
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT
mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
No, don't do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out
there. Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be
labelled - the fair trade ones are good. Or there is a company called
Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian
and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website.
http://www.vinceremos.co.uk/
--- On Fri, 4/9/09, Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT
mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 4 September, 2009, 5:53 PM
Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn't recommend
'Our Daily Red' - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg
whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan
wines. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, tgildred <tgild...@gmail.com
<http://uk.mc233.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tgild...@gmail.com> >
wrote:
Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan?
(just kidding)
On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, Shaynie Brandler <naive_sav...@hotmail.com
<http://uk.mc233.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naive_sav...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT
being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now
today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are
automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's
explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism,
with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
> Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping
kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a
vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs.
Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is
insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish).
Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to
ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been
contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher"
or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain
meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of
meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher"
and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and
the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may
contain eggs and/or fish.
From: haz...@bowesrigg.freeserve.co.uk
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:46:05 +0100
There are some good reds from Sainsbury as well - a few of their own label wines are clearly marked Vegan.
-----Original Message-----
From: veganwine@googlegroups.com [mailto:veganwine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Claire Cunniffe
Sent: 07 September 2009 10:03
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
No, don't do that, there are loads of fantastic vegan friendly wines out there. Try the Co-op own brands - if they are vegan they will be labelled - the fair trade ones are good. Or there is a company called Vinceremos who I order all my wine from - all their wines are vegetarian and most are vegan and clearly identifiable from their website. http://www.vinceremos.co.uk/
--- On Fri, 4/9/09, Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Katharine Riggins <kiprigg...@gmail.com>
Subject: [veganwine] Re: Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!! Kosher does NOT mean Vegan!!!
To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, 4 September, 2009, 5:53 PM
Vegan red wines for me so far have been disastrous. I wouldn't recommend 'Our Daily Red' - tastes like a cheap cooking wine... Supposidly the egg whites used are trace, maybe it is worth taking a chance on non-vegan wines.
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:24 AM, tgildred <tgild...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah... got it. So, kosher is wine is vegan?
(just kidding)
On Sep 1, 4:44 pm, Shaynie Brandler <naive_sav...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Yesterday I sent a detailed explanation to this group about kosher NOT being automatically equated with either vegetarian or vegan, and now today again there's someone in this group writing that kosher wines are automatically vegan wines. See below, my resend of yesterday's explanation about kashrut as it relates to vegetarianism and veganism, with special emphasis for Katharine about her "egg issue".
> Shaynie
> From: naive_sav...@hotmail.com
> To: veganwine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [veganwine] Re: New Vegan needs labels
> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:15:35 +0000
> Speaking as someone who is knowledgeable about kashrut (i.e., keeping kosher) and who is a vegan, "kosher" does NOT mean vegetarian, nor is a vegetarian wine suitable for Katharine if she is trying to avoid eggs. Egg shells are often used for the fining process in wine-making (as is insinglass, a product derived from the bladders of slaughtered fish). Egg shells are acceptable to people who keep kosher and acceptable to ovo-vegetarians. If you are trying to avoid wine that has been contaminated with eggs, you MUST get a VEGAN wine, not simply "kosher" or "vegetarian". Furthermore, products labelled "kosher" may contain meat/dairy/eggs/fish, although they will not contain a combination of meat and dairy within the same product. Products labelled with "kosher" and the letter "D" contain dairy. Products labelled with "kosher" and the word "parve" or "pareve" will not contain meat or dairy, but may contain eggs and/or fish.
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