which is precisely why they are being investigated like any other company would
be regardless of the nationality of its owners. your envious hate-frenzy
vitriol is inconsequential.
>(K): So much for 'rescues' by any self-serving American companies.
>
any american considering rescuing you from yourself should have his head
examined
Nope, you won't see another NDP type fiasco like Skeena neither!
On 27 Oct 2004 19:52:58 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
wrote:
Yeah, the extreme rise in the dollar had nothing to do with this
<extreme sarcasm>
>
> Yeah, the extreme rise in the dollar had nothing to do with this
>
The American company can't make money out of Canada if they can't
bring the wood home at an incredible profit. They bought that mill
for $1 CDN.
--
Barney __________________________
"Name calling is best left to the children."
>
> The Doman mill did have a union. It did dick all for the workers,
> they still got hosed.
>
>
I use to belong to Teamsters. They told us they couldn't represent
us because we were are our own business. We formed the
Owner/Operators Association and lo & behold local 31 of the
Teamsters sent us agents to determine what we wanted and their help.
The WOOA stil exists but now just a buying COOP. I imagine the
Teamsters are just back to collecting their union dues only.
> There is an example of a Canadian company doing so with an
> American company. I belive that it was a railroad.
>
> The Americans said the same thing as you did.
>
If you are refering to CP, it's the Americans who have majority of
it's shares. The Logo "CP" is exclusivly used so Americans don't have
that word "Canadian" steaming through their country.
>
>
>
> I grew up in the wonderful days when trains were CN and CP. Took
> a train from Toronto to Vancouver once in 1969. I took another
> train (a VIA Rail) from Toronto to Halifax with my kids and wife 8
> years back.
>
> It's a great way to travel. Seriousley.
>
I can't agree with you more.
I took my training on the east coast in the Navy. I returned as far
as Edmonton by train. Great memories of a trip in 1970 will never
be forgotten. VIA is a joint between CP & CN and imagine far more
exclusive now. I would like to make the trip from BC to Halifax
but haven't yet won the lottery. It has to be the most relaxing way
to see Canada.
What's with the "arbitrator"? screw that -- get a provincial court judge to
seize $2,000,000 from the company and return it to the rightful owners!
Your friend,
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> I find that hard to believe. CPR used to be one of the most widely
> held stocks in Canada I used to have shares in it years ago. They
> just saw their profit increase 95% in the third quarter.
>
>
Sorry I blew it. I said CP but should have said CN.
>
> Not bad considering that they were keeping some 300 Canadian
> families off welfare and earning union wages.
>
They weren't to begin with but it may go that way yet. Like Gold River,
Port Alice is isolated and survives on the mill. They are hoping to
attract tourists and I wish them luck. The country there is beautiful
and if tourists don't mind catch & release, they will be impressed.
Your friend,
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Barney <sh...@despammed.com> wrote:
B> Neely <N...@boston.com> had
B> writtennews:fj%fd.49000$Pl.27499@pd7tw1no:
B>
B>
B> >
B> > Yeah, the extreme rise in the dollar had nothing to do with this
B> >
B> The American company can't make money out of Canada if they can't
B> bring the wood home at an incredible profit. They bought that mill
B> for $1 CDN.
B>
B>
B>
B> --
B> Barney __________________________
B> "Name calling is best left to the children."
It's what unions do best -- they're just another level of tax-collecting
beaurocracy to deal with!
Your friend,
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Who do I call to request one? After all, I'm an American (and a Texan,
which we all *know* is the worst kind :-) Don't I qualify, since you
slagged all Americans?
Oh. I see. I'm not going to get any money, am I?
Indeed, 99.99999% of Americans didn't know anything about this, and won't
receive a Loony or Dollar from this theft.
Alan R. Weiss
Austin, Texas (and soon Exeter, Free State of New Hampshire, and Victoria,
BC due to the wonders of hard work and serving the free market with goods
and services customers demand while having the highest loyalty ratings from
employees in all of Austin, not to mention being the longest-winded
parenthetical signature writer on this planet .... :-)
P.S: my advice: repeal laws protecting "corporations" from having their
officers be personally liable for ALL the actions of their companies (as
advocated by the Libertarian Party of the USA), and GO HUNT DOWN these
thieves, varmints, and scum. Just a suggestion, do as you believe best).
/arw
The shame of it all ......................ROTFLMAO
Orm
lin Baden
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> Who can forget Wendy's take over of the Canadian icon business ,
> Tim Hortons ?
It wasn't a take over. In fact Tim Hortons Canada ltd, did better the
last quarter then Wendys.
--
Barney __________________________
> AFAIK, Wendy's is a British owned company.
No it's not!
>
> How they did profit wise has nothing to do with ownership.
> Wendy's International bought out Horton's, lock, stock & barrel.
> I don't know whether it was cash, stock or both but it sure as
> hell wasn't a merger or a partnership.
>
>
Your own link in the A/M post states it was a merger and 95%
Canadian owned. Unless you are saying the link you provided is
bogus.
> It was Wendy's who made it into "the Canadian icon business" in
> the first place. Until then it was a barely surviving Ontario
> business named after a drunk driver who fortunately did not take
> anyone else with him when he crashed and croaked. Some icon.
>
Tim Horton was a hockey player who died speeding on a highway. His
partner was the one who turned it into a chain.
>>
>>Your own link in the A/M post states it was a merger and 95%
>>Canadian owned. Unless you are saying the link you provided is
>>bogus.
>
> Just what 'link' did I provide that says it's 95% 'Canadian
> Owned?'
>
> You just won't give up, will you?
On the main page, click on Hortons and follow through.
You may notice your second link is the one I posted previously. Yes
I do give up now. The original post has lost it's continuity. The
argument was Americans are taking over Canadian business's of which
I concurred. To me the example of Tim Hortons is not a good one. There
are far better examples.
I guess I was thinking about Burger King:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1952802.stm
lin Baden
>On 1 Nov 2004 16:00:31 GMT, Barney <sh...@despammed.com> wrote:
>Wendy's International is a Dublin based company (appears to be for tax
>purposes), but the major shareholders appear to be all American, or,
>in the case of the burger joint, 1 Canadian.
Wendy's International Inc
P.O. Box 256
4288 West Dublin-Granville Rd.
Dublin, OH 43017
Go on their site and you'll see address's all over. I don't know if it
still remains but BC Hydro once had an office in NYC. Even Tim Hortons
has offices in the States!
Your friend,
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"Ormond Laplunk" <o...@canada.com> wrote:
"L>
"L> Who can forget Wendy's take over of the Canadian icon business , Tim Horto
"L> ?
"L>
"L> The shame of it all ......................ROTFLMAO
"L>
"L> Orm
"L>
"L>
"L>
Burger King just settled a strike at their CARA facility. One of the
employees has recently been sent to jail for trying to run over a
supervisor. Not a good place to work mostly ESL people.
On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 06:19:38 -0500, E. Barry Bruyea <sum...@gone.ca>
wrote:
>On 2 Nov 2004 03:45:34 GMT, Barney <sh...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>>ba...@unixg.ubc.ca (Baden Kudrenecky) had
>>writtennews:SBChd.90654$nl.30675@pd7tw3no:
>>> Wendy's International Inc
>>> P.O. Box 256
>>> 4288 West Dublin-Granville Rd.
>>> Dublin, OH 43017
>>
>>Go on their site and you'll see address's all over. I don't know if it
>>still remains but BC Hydro once had an office in NYC. Even Tim Hortons
>>has offices in the States!
>
>
>Horton's is operated as an independent division, so it's not
>surprising they have offices in the states.
>
>Anybody know how Horton's widow made out with her law suit against
>Joyce, the partner she sold out to for 1 mil & later sued because she
>said it was 'unfair'? I haven't been able to google anything on the
>result.
Interstate Bakeries in the US recently filed bankruptcy after being
1.6 billion in the red. They baked white bread instead of healthy
whole wheat.
>
> Let it go Barney, Wendy's HQ is in Dublin Ohio, that's where the
> company started. Apparently, there even was a Wendy.
>
> Either way, it's a hamburger joint, not like it's anything
> important.
>
So true! Wendy was Dave's daughter. I met Dave Thomas only once
(not person to person)and found him to be a very personable guy. It
is hard to believe he had business savy and still cared about
people. Personaly I am not a fan of hamburgers from any of the
chains.
> UUhhhhh Tim Horton's is owned by Wendys.
>
She sold to Tim's partner named Joyce.
> I have no doubt that the business had a vested interest in sanitizing the
> story of the drunk's demise. Or in hushing up how he treated his wife and
> family. Admittedly, he was very popular in his time, but a nice guy he
> was
> not.
What has this do do with the topic of American takeover?????
Orm
Orm
> Actually, Wendy's International is Dublin based, but majority American
> owned. ...
Wendy's is owned by General Electric which in turn is owned by Vivendi
Universal , French company.
Orm
> Geezus wept Barry Bad numbers!
>
> Has anyone told you that this particular Dublin happens to be a
> small town in Ohio?
>
>
Thanks Karl. This really is getting silly. The address is posted all
over their web site.
I've got to kill file this thread.
> On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 02:48:57 GMT, ba...@unixg.ubc.ca (Baden
> Kudrenecky) wrote:
>
>> In <878co01919oee1gd2...@4ax.com>, E. Barry Bruyea
>> <sum...@gone.ca> writes:
>>> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 23:41:15 GMT, ba...@unixg.ubc.ca (Baden
>>> Kudrenecky) wrote:
>>>
>>>> AFAIK, Wendy's is a British owned company.
>>>
>>>
>>> Not quite.
>>> http://www.wendys-invest.com/fin/owner/
>>
>> I guess I was thinking about Burger King:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1952802.stm
>>
>> lin Baden
>
> Actually, Wendy's International is Dublin based, but majority American
> owned. A tax thing, I guess.
>
>
>>
is Dublin, Ohio, part of the UK now?
Do your own research. I used Google for both General Electric , Wendys and
Vivendi.
Have you always been "spoon fed" your knowledge?
Orm
Yeah, but I'm not sure I want to pay $0.69 for a possibly sneezed on bulk
doughnut (as Safeway sells them) :|
I'd prefer 7-11's fresh daily individually wrapped doughnuts!
Last I heard, Timmy's doughnuts are fresh every day. . has that changed?
> I recently found out that the bakery in Save-On-Foods is selling frozen
> doughnuts. That's right boys and girls, Save-On-Foods/Overweitea sells
> doughnuts in their bakery that have been FROZEN, in some cases more than 2
> weeks. They refused to tell me where they came from but they are not done
> at the store. They just thaw them out in the back and then put them on th
> shelf at the bakery counter as if they were freshly baked.
Much like Safeway's bread (the non-Safeway brand loaves)
> The Great Canadian Superstore, claims that their doughnuts are "fresh
> daily" but admit that they all come from the Marine Superstore superstore.
> Actually, the staff don't really know how old their doughnuts are, they
> assumed they are "fresh daily" only because they are delivered to their
> store every morning from the Marine Drive warehouse. No idea how long they
> sat there or if they were also stored frozen for a couple of weeks. The
> issue of freshness never came up in their employee orientation.
Of course they're not going to trouble employees with details/questions that
would make it difficult for staff to give the company line to inquiring
customers, while keeping a straight face!
> Having said all that, I have been to Timmy's a few times and NONE of the
> doughnuts I had there (at any of 4 different locations at different times)
> tasted fresh to me. The staff always gave me evasive or ambiguous answers
> when asked how fresh the stuff really was.
I was always told they're fresh daily!
Which Timmy's were you at? The last one I was at was Lougheed & Gilmore in
Burnaby last week, where I tried their beef stew in a bread bowl combo (came
with Staryucks quality coffee and a doughnut of my choice (tasted fresh enough,
just too bad the stew wasn't as thick and gravy-ish as the tv ad implied, and
had a SWEET/artificial taste(rather than savory natural)
The bread bowl was tasty, but certainly not worth the price by itself!
> Just like when the Save-On-Foods bakery swine told me "I just put them out
> 20 minutes ago" but didn't bother telling me that they had already sat for
> 2 weeks in her freezer.
Bloody ignorant!
Have you written to head office? (they generally respond to the customer survey
cards)
> Nuffy where are you?
> Here Nuffy..Nuffy..Nuffy..Nuffy.. ...
What happened to the Nuffy's at Oak & 49th? Or is the whole chain dead?
> I used to drive clear across town on Sun morn to get Nuffies doughnuts whe
> they were at Cambie and No.3 Road.
Never saw that one (kinda off my beaten path)
I get the Safeway ones occasionally, in the mornings, when they're on special,
before they've been picked over & sneezed on too much!
Tasty dickens! (the Blundell & Two Safeway's bakery is still new, so maybe
their fryers aren't so caked as Seafair's!) (have you tried them from here?
I've not had any greasy ones yet!)
I miss the Chinese coffee shop that was in here before; they used to make their
own doughnuts every morning!
Your friend,
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On Tue, 02 Nov 2004 19:05:33 GMT, gu...@nospam.org (Karl Pollak)
wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
>gap...@vcn.bc.ca wrote:
>
>>Does anybody really care WHO owns Timmy's, so long as the Tim-Bits are still
>>there & fresh?
>
>Welllll, I'm not sure how fresh they are, George.
>
>I know that Safeway does make their own doughnuts and they are fresh every
>morning (where they have bakery in the store). Unfortunately, sometimes
>they just drip with grease (perhaps using oil that's way too old or cooking
>them under the wrong/low temperature)?
>
>I recently found out that the bakery in Save-On-Foods is selling frozen
>doughnuts. That's right boys and girls, Save-On-Foods/Overweitea sells
>doughnuts in their bakery that have been FROZEN, in some cases more than 2
>weeks. They refused to tell me where they came from but they are not done
>at the store. They just thaw them out in the back and then put them on the
>shelf at the bakery counter as if they were freshly baked.
>
>The Great Canadian Superstore, claims that their doughnuts are "fresh
>daily" but admit that they all come from the Marine Superstore superstore.
>Actually, the staff don't really know how old their doughnuts are, they
>assumed they are "fresh daily" only because they are delivered to their
>store every morning from the Marine Drive warehouse. No idea how long they
>sat there or if they were also stored frozen for a couple of weeks. The
>issue of freshness never came up in their employee orientation.
>
>Having said all that, I have been to Timmy's a few times and NONE of the
>doughnuts I had there (at any of 4 different locations at different times)
>tasted fresh to me. The staff always gave me evasive or ambiguous answers
>when asked how fresh the stuff really was.
>
>Just like when the Save-On-Foods bakery swine told me "I just put them out
>20 minutes ago" but didn't bother telling me that they had already sat for
>2 weeks in her freezer.
>
>Nuffy where are you?
>Here Nuffy..Nuffy..Nuffy..Nuffy.. ...
>
>I used to drive clear across town on Sun morn to get Nuffies doughnuts when
Yeah, just as covered, for bulk doughnuts -- better off buying the boxed
dozens, to get freshness and sneeze-free!
> >Last I heard, Timmy's doughnuts are fresh every day. . has that changed?
>
> Yes, I heard the same thign but the taste says otherwise.
> The Save-On-Foods bakery twit did tell me "I just put them out a few
> minutes ago" which of course carries the implication that they are very
> fresh. Not exactly the same thing as "I just took them out of the freezer
> 10 minutes ago" which is what she really ment.
No kidding! Downright deceptive, IMO! (although not legally so, of course!)
> I spoke to the store manager who assured me that he will have a word
> withthe emnployees at the bakery counter, but has no intention of labellin
> his doughnuts as "previously frozen" or "manufactured in Alberta" or any
> other sign that would alert the unsuspecting consumer that they aer buying
> industrial product instead of freshly baked food.
So what word, exactly, do you suppose he was going to have with the employees?
> It's a sushi bar now. I just drove by there this pm and thought the same
> thing. There is apparently still one on Bridgeport. There also used to be
> Robin's Doughnuts. Also excellent stuff. I used to stop by on the way to
> work when I was late and get a dozen for the office. That way everybody go
> a sugar fix and nobody bitched to the boss about me being late all the
> time. Made for much more pleasant Monday mornings.
Sounds like the smart way to go!
I'm going to remember this one for future reference. . .
I would have found your story less of a narcissitic rant and more of a logical
argument had you mentioned that the protagonist had noticed the donuts being
cold and had deducted that they had been just taken out of the freezer, rather
than describing the protagonist as a know-it-all who "really knows what she
means" when she says "I just put them out 10 minutes ago", without informing
the reader how the protagonist knows this.
Do you suppose the manager was being purposely dense in missing your point, or
that he's just been so used to toeing the company line that he really had no
clue?